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Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 13:11 ]
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As nobody is dead, then there isn't much to say yet, really...

Author:  Malc [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 13:43 ]
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apart from people watching!

As for why you would donate, I assume that's for if you think you are going to die?

Malc

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 13:46 ]
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Malc wrote:
apart from people watching!

As for why you would donate, I assume that's for if you think you are going to die?

Malc

To not stand out.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 13:51 ]
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To clarify, having lots of money will end up with you broke or dead.

the other reason (passing wealth around to teammates to keep it safe) is both too obvious, and not conducive to the individual win condition.

Given how transient it is, I'd be mainly avoiding it until the endgame.

Author:  Malc [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 13:55 ]
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Oh yeah I suppose if everyone can see how much you have, you're going to be poor by the morning

I wonder if you can steal from yourself?

There should be a night action of "hide money under mattress"

Malc

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 14:00 ]
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You can also donate to try and make someone a target.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 14:17 ]
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Trooper wrote:
You can also donate to try and make someone a target.


Or donate to transfer your money elsewhere - given the values are there at the start of the day (and I assume at the start of every day) anyone with a bucketload of cash is going to be an obvious target

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 15:52 ]
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I may have not read the part about money on death still counting...

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 16:04 ]
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Given money on death counting its in the mafias interest to make sure dead 'townies' dont have much money (a rich dead townie is *bad*) but in the right circumstances could you not suicide giving your team enough money for the win ?

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 16:08 ]
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It does seem quite favourable for the town, as they have more collecting ability.

But I doubt anyone is playing for the team win.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 16:17 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
I may have not read the part about money on death still counting...


I'm pretty sure that it specifically states in the rule thread than money after death only counts for the individual competition and doesn't count towards the faction tally...

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 16:32 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
I may have not read the part about money on death still counting...


I'm pretty sure that it specifically states in the rule thread than money after death only counts for the individual competition and doesn't count towards the faction tally...


As might be obvious, I still haven't read the part about money on death...

I'm not playing though, so unsurprising.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 16:37 ]
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Pff, its in the clarifications... No wonder I didn't read it.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 13, 2014 16:42 ]
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I'll move all the clarifications to the main post.

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 15:02 ]
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If anyone misses sending in their night action, then i'm thinking about either defaulting them to make money, or telling the group tomorrow how many people failed to make a night action, otherwise trying to work out what went on overnight will be overly tricky.

What do you guys think?

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 15:20 ]
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Thinking about it, i'll mention how many missed actions there were, if there are any, but not say who missed. As not taking an action is an action of sorts, so the players should still be able to do that.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Feb 14, 2014 16:17 ]
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Mod kill for non participation. It is the first day, people should be trying out their powers.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 13:25 ]
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The steals happen in the order I receive them, by the way. But I'm sure they can work that out for themselves.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 20:38 ]
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I'm sure at some point they'll lynch someone. Maybe.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 22:30 ]
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Indeed, hardly the ruthless capitalists I was expecting.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:55 ]
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It's interesting that in a game where the only power the town have is talking and voting. They still opt to do neither...

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:23 ]
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If I were them, Id probably be killing davpaz. Die in main to his "I'm an idiot to forgets his noght action. Oh me."

even though i'm assuming that you can make money and go a killing, it just looks a little like he's laying low.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:35 ]
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I'll be impressed if anyone can figure out all the night actions this time.
Still one more to come in, which is a bit annoying, as I have seen them posting today...

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 13:17 ]
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Trooper wrote:
I'll be impressed if anyone can figure out all the night actions this time.
Still one more to come in, which is a bit annoying, as I have seen them posting today...

Is it Davpaz?

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 13:59 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I'll be impressed if anyone can figure out all the night actions this time.
Still one more to come in, which is a bit annoying, as I have seen them posting today...

Is it Davpaz?


Heh, no. Everyone got back to me in time in the end.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:06 ]
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Well Cras, yes, there is nothing to go on if nobody ever votes for anyone :D

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 15:11 ]
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Impressive stuff from Saturnalian.
I suspect he won't last the night...

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 18:23 ]
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I see three problems so far . #1 - noone seems to know what anyone should do in a situation. Partially as some are playing a longer game than others
#2 - individual win conditions for the town tend to stop teamwork
but mainly #3 - It's a crap shoot. It'll likely come down to luck as to who steals from who and when on the last night basically rendering now a simple ce of stating alive

Author:  sdg [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 0:08 ]
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Still want to vote for curiosity.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 21, 2014 15:10 ]
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lilz at my description :)

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 24, 2014 21:03 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
Although Grim... ended up being a townie, I still think he was working to the detriment of the town, so it was a good shout on the limited amount of data we had at that point.

No, you dick.

Craster and Curio definitely have something going on.

Craster, Sat, Russ and a newly-added Curio are on my dodgy list - and as Sat got killed I suppose that leaves the other three.

I'd like to put Myp on it, but I know from experience he'll be belming his way through the days and have no actual plan (to go with his no actual money).

YES I KNOW YOU CAN READ THIS, DICK

[edit]WELL, NOT RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY. BUT IN TIME, I MEAN

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 24, 2014 21:05 ]
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iF i'M RIGHT, THE ONLY BREAK THE TOWN GOT WOULD BE BECAUSE TWO MAFIA STARTED VOTING FOR EACH OTHER, WHICH WOULD BE FUNNY.

Oh fuck, well, I'm not changing it now.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 24, 2014 23:23 ]
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Darn.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:31 ]
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Oh, the humanity

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:23 ]
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This is going to be interesting. The mafia need a majority to stop the game, yet IMO have made it very obvious who two of them are. As long as the town don't belm it up, they should be able to win this.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:24 ]
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Bet all Mafia

Author:  zaphod79 [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:18 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Bet all Mafia


:this:

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:32 ]
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It does rely on the town only voting for the obvious mafia, and not being stupid enough to vote for one of their own.

<looks at player list>

Oh.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:33 ]
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Well, I thought Cras was obvious mafia, so :shrug:

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:44 ]
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Surely the actions of today have highlighted 1 certain mafia, and one other extremely likely?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:09 ]
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I stand by my original list (minus the two that were wrong) and I'll add - um - DavPaz.

Russ, Curio and DavPaz.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:10 ]
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If they are mafia and haven't obtained the ability to stop a vote, they are remarkably stupid.

Which may, of course, save them.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 13:18 ]
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Grim... wrote:
iF i'M RIGHT, THE ONLY BREAK THE TOWN GOT WOULD BE BECAUSE TWO MAFIA STARTED VOTING FOR EACH OTHER, WHICH WOULD BE FUNNY.

Oh fuck, well, I'm not changing it now.


:roll:

Author:  sdg [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 13:19 ]
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Curio, Zeppo and Bobby for my vote right now.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 13:22 ]
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Russ, Bobby, and Zeppo, surely!

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 13:31 ]
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Nah - Curio fo'sho.

Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 15:09 ]
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Spreadsheet update.

Everyone invests except Cras. Obv.

Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 15:09 ]
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Right way up! In your face world.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 16:28 ]
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Nah, it's wrong - I stole from Myp, I didn't invest.

Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Feb 25, 2014 17:34 ]
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I knew that. Fuck ma' spreadsheet. :(

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