Xmas Scum Day One

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

But I stand by my suggestion that the town should change it's vote & look at the four players who voted for him in quick succession. Thus my vote for Cras still stands.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Although I really do have a dislike for quiet players so Joans or Sharp Suit could be another option.

But not Squirt, SDG or Jazzy? Interesting.

Yes & I am sure there are others with only a few posts.
Joans would be my preference for the quiet players because of her comment against Kovac but not voting for him.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

cras kringle: 1 (gospvg)
zaphod79: 1 (Bobbyaro)
mr russell sprouts: 1 (sdg)
nickachu: 2 (KovacsC, Santanalian)
kovacsc: 8 (Grim..., Cras Kringle, SilentNight, Mr Russell Sprouts, nickachu, Trooper, DavPaz, zaphod79)

Not voted: 5 (gazchap, squirt, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine)

With 18 players alive, 10 votes are required for a lynch, and 10 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:40

gospvg wrote:

Yes & I am sure there are others with only a few posts.

Nope.

gospvg wrote:

Joans would be my preference for the quiet players because of her comment against Kovac but not voting for him.

Joans is a boy

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Yes & I am sure there are others with only a few posts.

Nope.

gospvg wrote:

Joans would be my preference for the quiet players because of her comment against Kovac but not voting for him.

Joans is a boy

Oops sorry Joans

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Yes & I am sure there are others with only a few posts.

Nope.

I have not done a post count, I think that would be delving too much into the metadata category possibly?
Just a quick glance through the thread. Anyhow my preference for a quiet player would be Joans.

But I do agree with the obvious fact that by lynching anyone on day one it will give the town some information even if that may be that we have killed an elf. Thus I am happy to be the deciding vote on Kovac if that is what the town wants.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:49

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

gospvg wrote:

I have not done a post count, I think that would be delving too much into the metadata category possibly?

The data is available for everyone who wants to look.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

gospvg wrote:

I have not done a post count, I think that would be delving too much into the metadata category possibly?

The data is available for everyone who wants to look.

Ok sorry did not know that.
I also talk too much & need to just shut up !!

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

gospvg wrote:

I have not done a post count, I think that would be delving too much into the metadata category possibly?

The data is available for everyone who wants to look.

Can we put the links to the post count & vote count on the first post of each day please?
Easier to find.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

I ain't reading... erm... whatever it is that has that information.

I'm happy to switch to Gos now, if that'll get a lynch? :kiss:

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

gospvg wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

gospvg wrote:

I have not done a post count, I think that would be delving too much into the metadata category possibly?

The data is available for everyone who wants to look.

Can we put the links to the post count & vote count on the first post of each day please?
Easier to find.

Normally they will be reposted a few times throughout the day as well.

myp · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:57

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Yes & I am sure there are others with only a few posts.

Nope.

gospvg wrote:

Joans would be my preference for the quiet players because of her comment against Kovac but not voting for him.

Joans is a boy

Maybe he's thinking of Joans Collinses.

myp · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:58

That's what Gollum calls her, anyway.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Mr Russell Sprouts wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

gospvg wrote:

I have not done a post count, I think that would be delving too much into the metadata category possibly?

The data is available for everyone who wants to look.

Can we put the links to the post count & vote count on the first post of each day please?
Easier to find.

Normally they will be reposted a few times throughout the day as well.

the vote count is, I have posted that a few times but did not know about the post count link.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Santanalian wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Mr Russell Sprouts wrote:

gospvg wrote:

The problem with this game is that in the first few days if you talk too much the finger of suspicion gets pointed at you, potentially we could lose three people to the night actions do we really want to vote Kovac out also potentially losing a 4th when we have nothing to go on?

The lynch is the town's only power. You really don't want to argue against it.

Yes it is the towns only power but I think we should only use that power if we have a certainty & Kovac has said or done nothing.
I also know that I am digging a big hole for myself now & I should just shutup.

Shut up for your own protection? Don't be a wuss. You've got a good point here.

The town ought be looking at voting patterns and that guff Mr Dave always goes on about. There has already been a surge of voting and an attempt by people to distance themselves from it. We should be looking at that surge and taking an educated punt at one of those rather than someone who has said and done nowt.

& now you are trying to get the town to vote for me?

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 13:03

Santanalian wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

I ain't reading... erm... whatever it is that has that information.

I'm happy to switch to Gos now, if that'll get a lynch? :kiss:

so am I!!

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

KovacsC wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

I ain't reading... erm... whatever it is that has that information.

I'm happy to switch to Gos now, if that'll get a lynch? :kiss:

so am I!!

Sheesh getting stabbed in the back by everyone now, I'm going to fuck off & do some work now & leave the town to decide. I'll be back to cast my vote before 2pm if any deciding vote is needed.

[vote:unvote]

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 13:08

gospvg wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Santanalian wrote:

Hi Grim..., can we have one of those character/post count things? I like when people slap people up wid da fax.

It lives at http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php like it always does.

I ain't reading... erm... whatever it is that has that information.

I'm happy to switch to Gos now, if that'll get a lynch? :kiss:

so am I!!

Sheesh getting stabbed in the back by everyone now, I'm going to fuck off & do some work now & leave the town to decide. I'll be back to cast my vote before 2pm if any deciding vote is needed.

[vote:unvote]

I am not stabbing you in the back....

But with you defending me, it makes me look guilty

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

I was joking, by the way! I like talkies and dislike non-talkies so I'd be happy to switch to a non-talky at this stage. Or Nik, who was my punt for Scum in that surge of votes from earlier that no one seems interested in looking at.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

To be honest, i'd happily vote for anyone that isn't me at this point. It's the only way to get information.

I'm sticking with the Kov vote.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38464

This Day One dither is not so great
We are groping blind
Some information should be your bait
So vote, if you wouldn't mind.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

Vote Zaphod for justice! He voted, then ran away, like a Christmas turkey! It seems unlikely anyone other than Kov is going to get lynched, but I do kind of agree with gospvg that he is not mafia.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

If you and SDG switch to Nik, you might get a better shot at people switching over for a lynch and maybe more information than you would get with a Kov lynch.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

[vote:nickachu]

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6515

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Although I really do have a dislike for quiet players so Joans or Sharp Suit could be another option.

But not Squirt, SDG or Jazzy? Interesting.

It's because I'm just *soooo* adorable with my little elf hat and my curly-toed elf shoes!

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

Squirt wrote:

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Although I really do have a dislike for quiet players so Joans or Sharp Suit could be another option.

But not Squirt, SDG or Jazzy? Interesting.

It's because I'm just *soooo* adorable with my little elf hat and my curly-toed elf shoes!

Sounds like you are a snappy dresser!
You know who else are typically snappy dressers? Mafia, that's who...

<narrows eyes>

sdg · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:16

[vote:Nickachu]
I don't really believe kovacs is a baddy and the reluctance of other people to change votes or allow gospvg to discuss this makes me think I'm correct.
However, gospvg named the people who all voted in a rush and missed off Russell. Was that just a mistake? I specifically chose him because he voted in the latter half of that rush.
Anyway, happy to vote for nick just now for the same reasons.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:17

nickachu: 4 (KovacsC, sdg, Santanalian, Bobbyaro)
kovacsc: 8 (Grim..., Cras Kringle, SilentNight, Mr Russell Sprouts, nickachu, Trooper, DavPaz, zaphod79)

Not voted: 6 (gospvg, gazchap, squirt, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine)

With 18 players alive, 10 votes are required for a lynch, and 10 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:24

Tic toc

About 35 mins to go.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

sdg wrote:

[vote:Nickachu]
I don't really believe kovacs is a baddy and the reluctance of other people to change votes or allow gospvg to discuss this makes me think I'm correct.
However, gospvg named the people who all voted in a rush and missed off Russell. Was that just a mistake? I specifically chose him because he voted in the latter half of that rush.
Anyway, happy to vote for nick just now for the same reasons.

Just checked that & yep sorry missed Russell off, in fairness I did also vote for Kovac.
With only 30 mins to go I don't think we will get a lynch vote in time unless a mass switch to nikachu?
I'm happy to vote for Nikachu because he was in that rush of votes but I still think Cras is suspect.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

nickachu: 4 (KovacsC, sdg, Santanalian, Bobbyaro)
kovacsc: 8 (Grim..., Cras Kringle, SilentNight, Mr Russell Sprouts, nickachu, Trooper, DavPaz, zaphod79)

Not voted: 6 (gospvg, gazchap, squirt, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine)

With 18 players alive, 10 votes are required for a lynch, and 10 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:27

gospvg wrote:

With only 30 mins to go I don't think we will get a lynch vote in time unless a mass switch to nikachu?

Or a tiny switch to Kov.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

With only 30 mins to go I don't think we will get a lynch vote in time unless a mass switch to nikachu?

Or a tiny switch to Kov.

Yes or a switch to Kovac, is is not what I want but it will give the town vital information either way.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

Grim... wrote:

gospvg wrote:

With only 30 mins to go I don't think we will get a lynch vote in time unless a mass switch to nikachu?

Or a tiny switch to Kov.

Indeed...

Interesting.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

We are basically voting for whoever Grim... picked as a vote counter test, which is hardly fair, and yet anything is better than a nothing.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Mr Russell Sprouts wrote:

We are basically voting for whoever Grim... picked as a vote counter test, which is hardly fair, and yet anything is better than a nothing.

So change to Nikachu then or Cras?

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

Grim... does always do a counter test, but he also unvotes afterwards. This time he didn't, which could be significant.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Trooper wrote:

Grim... does always do a counter test, but he also unvotes afterwards. This time he didn't, which could be significant.

Yep I eluded to this earlier but I also think the rush of votes on Kovac, one or more is Mafia

Let's give Grimm the benefit of the doubt for testing the vote system but then he has not unvoted?
Silent night, Nikachu, Cras, Zaphod (Russell also who i missed out) all voted for Kovac in quick succession. I am going to say one of them is Mafia.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

Right, we aren't going to get Nick, so [vote:KovacsC]. I am suss of gos now for not voting for nick.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

[vote:Nickachu]

However - we really should vote someone out so if the choice is between Nick and Kov we just need to pick one and follow through - however we need to do that in the next 25 minutes

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Bobbyaro wrote:

Right, we aren't going to get Nick, so [vote:KovacsC]. I am suss of gos now for not voting for nick.

I'm not voting for anyone yet, My preference would be for Cras but Nic would be better than Kovac.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:39

Trooper wrote:

Grim... does always do a counter test, but he also unvotes afterwards. This time he didn't, which could be significant.

That I don't.

Sometimes I do - but that's normally to check the unvote is working to

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:39

NOOOO I MEANT "too" DON'T READ THAT

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Grim... wrote:

Trooper wrote:

Grim... does always do a counter test, but he also unvotes afterwards. This time he didn't, which could be significant.

That I don't.

Sometimes I do - but that's normally to check the unvote is working to

Maybe you should check that unvote works & while you are at it put your vote into the Nik camp?

nickachu · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:41

Why vote for me?

Because I voted for Kovs and can't read?

Doesn't seem like anything there.

Potentially Kov could be bad and bobby and gilly could also be baddies trying to look good.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

gospvg wrote:

Nic would be better than Kovac.

Why?

nickachu · **Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 14:45

Cras Kringle wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Nic would be better than Kovac.

Why?

Do you have some proof gospvg?

Or is it just a wild stab in the dark?

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

Cras Kringle wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Nic would be better than Kovac.

Why?

I don't think Kovac is Mafia he could be another role like scrooge or the demented elf but if he was Mafia they would be defending him. Nikachu is in the list of players who mass voted for Kovac just like you.

gospvg · **Joined:** 7th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 2306

nickachu wrote:

Cras Kringle wrote:

gospvg wrote:

Nic would be better than Kovac.

Why?

Do you have some proof gospvg?

Or is it just a wild stab in the dark?

No proof just looking at the trend of the votes.

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