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 Post subject: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:01 
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You wake, all of you.

However it appears one or more of you didn't get the memo.

Continue.


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With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch.

Day 6 ends Monday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:10 
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Well do nothing works!

We are all still here.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:31 
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On the plus side, no one died.

Very curious.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:33 
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Trooper wrote:
However it appears one or more of you didn't get the memo.


Well, there are at least two possible meanings for this.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:40 
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For instance

#1) We don't get released until noone pushes a button, and those who have roleblocking/investigating roles etc did, but the remaining kill roles didn't.
#2) Killer was blocked by doctor/roleblocker.
#3) Someone, be it 'mafia' or someone else has a more particular goal than kill to majority.
#4) Our captor is messing with us.

There was a #5, but, alas, I've forgotten it.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:45 
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Anyone got any info that they think might help?

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:23 
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Are we going for a no lynch again?

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 13:17 
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KovacsC wrote:
Are we going for a no lynch again?


If we can get everyone to agree a no button press for tonight I think that would be good.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 14:02 
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Last night hasn't really revealed anything but hasn't cost us anything. It would appear buttons were pushed, wether that was roleblock/investigate or kill. Potentially a roleblocker blocked an attempted kill but I see no harm in trying again tonight with even roleblockers and investigators refraining from button pushing.
I say we all vote for no lynch then all also message trooper requesting no night action to be doubly sure.
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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 15:06 
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Nobody got any slide down panels?

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 15:58 
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I got nothing overnight.

Did you?


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 16:01 
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Nope, so I want to do something.

[vote:nickachu]

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 17:32 
I did nothing over night as I have nothing I can do.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 18:25 
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nickachu wrote:
I did nothing over night as I have nothing I can do.

Me either, but it will be exciting for me to find out what my role is and share that info with everyone.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 18:55 
So you want to vote off another townie. Good work russ.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:05 
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nickachu wrote:
So you want to vote off another townie. Good work russ.

But I don't know that I'm a townie.

Plus, if people die quicker then the game ends quicker and I will have survived to the end. It's genius.

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 Post subject: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:06 
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I'm starting to think the no voters are part of a group who need to reach some target or other.

I think some of us are going to regret going along with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:25 
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Malc wrote:
I'm starting to think the no voters are part of a group who need to reach some target or other.

I think some of us are going to regret going along with it.

Malc

Join me in voting nickachu?!

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:36 
Because I was all for the doing nothing.

I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell]


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:48 
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nickachu wrote:
Because I was all for the doing nothing.

I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell]

Which makes.... you mafia. I picked you as you seem to have the same role as me, which either makes you a liar, or tells everyone the role of a person left alive (me) if we kill you.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 19:55 
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nickachu wrote:
Because I was all for the doing nothing.

I suspect Mr Russ is mafia now. [vote:Mr Russell]

Which makes.... you mafia. I picked you as you seem to have the same role as me, which either makes you a liar, or tells everyone the role of a person left alive (me) if we kill you.


I'm 100% certain I'm not mafia, which makes you one. So if you get everyone to gang up on me then you're dead the next day.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 20:54 
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What logic makes me mafia just because you know your own role?

My argument is that I don't know my role, only my win condition.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:18 
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I am going to vote [vote:nickachu]

As I belive doing nothing will not get us out of here.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:23 
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I didn't touch anything or get any messages or nowt.

I wonder if something thinks they have a kill role, in fact, doesn't and just happened to press a button the same night or nights someone died.

Why don't we all try pressing the same button? Because, y'know, it's different, init?


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 13:39 
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Room Scum Day 6

VOTE UPDATE

mr russell: 1 (nickachu)
nickachu: 2 (Mr Russell, KovacsC)

Not voted: 7 (slightly green, grim..., sdg, thevision, malc, saturnalian, mr dave)

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 19:59 
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Interesting to see the different personalities....

But yeah, I:m not going to be voting, and I:m still not going to be pressing any buttons.

)yeah, I:m choosing to believe ]1 on my list up there given the lack of particular evidence to the contrary, and, you know, not liking killing people.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 22:25 
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I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 22:31 
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sdg wrote:
I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action.

So even though we all agreed not to press the buttons someone still pushed their button?!

DETECTIVE: It look liek we hav a CRIMERR.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 23:19 
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Did we expect the cult or mafia to do nothing?

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 23:32 
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Well there were no kills?! So it looks like the killer did nothing, and as mr Dave said, if the cult recruit, and you have a win condition of survive, it doesn't matter! If I knew my number I'd be pleading with the cult to recruit me so as I would have a chnace of winning if your all intent on killing someone!


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 23:34 
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Why is this game different? We always lynch as it is the towns only power?

What are you and Mr Dave up to?

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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Mr Russell wrote:
sdg wrote:
I agree with mr Dave. I don't understand why people are persisting with the voting. Clearly someone pressed a button last night and I see no harm in attempting a full day and night of no action.

So even though we all agreed not to press the buttons someone still pushed their button?!

DETECTIVE: It look liek we hav a CRIMERR.


Well, no, we didn:t...

quote from yesterday+ "Another thing, people who are 100% certain about their night role, and are an investigator or roleblocker, can press away."

KovacsC wrote:
Why is this game different? We always lynch as it is the towns only power?

The difference? Really? Go look at the rules and there:s your difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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Yip looked. There are no rules other than the buttons.

But we know there are town, mafia and cult. So doing nothing plays into the cult/mafia not the town.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:21 
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Kovacs, is your win condition survive? If so, lets look at the options.
1) We play as normal, lynching at random (because the investigators get numbers, not names, so the information isn't useful). There are nighttime kills, daytime lynches, and eventually two people are left standing. Everyone else still around right now has by the end been killed and only two people 'win'.
2) We don't vote to lynch. We don't carry out night actions. No one is killed, no one is recruited, or blocked, or investigated. We all simply wait. We all survive. We all meet our win condition. We are all released and go on to live long and happy lives.
3) We don't vote to lynch. We don't carry out night actions. The killer ignores this and kills. We all go back to lynching etc tomorrow. We have lost one player.
4)We don't vote to lynch. We don't carry out night actions. The cult ignores this. They recruit. The remaining people are still alive and so again, everyone survives. We all are released and go on to live happy lives.
Of those options, 2 & 4 are the best. 3 is unlucky but slim odds and has minimal impact on the whole experience overall. 1 seems downright crazy if carried out before attempting the others.
Is there a fifth option that you see? Because looking at it purely from a numbers/odds point of view, I think we have to attempt a day and night of everyone not voting and not pressing buttons. The only reason anyone would not want to abstain from action was if they had an ulterior motive other than survive. Again, this is because of two reasons- we can't make use of the information the investigator finds out because we don't know who it relates to, and we all (presumably) just want to survive!


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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Although, with 4, there is a fairly good chance that the recruiter has already been killed and so this situation cannot come to pass. And if I:m wrong, no skin off my nose.

KovacsC wrote:
Yip looked. There are no rules other than the buttons.

But we know there are town, mafia and cult. So doing nothing plays into the cult/mafia not the town.


My point was that we don:t know the rules. You:re assuming things on games past, where, let me remind you, the mafia were a team. From whatever evidence there is in this game, that:s not the case here given the way they were willing to sell each other out for no gain.

Could be wrong. But, you know, it:d be great if I weren:t...and everyone else didn:t partake in mutually assured destruction and that.


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:53 
The fact the kovacs jumped so quickly on Mr Russes attempt at lynching me leads me to believe that they could both be mafia, me and russ could have the same role, but one of us is town (me) and one of us is Mafia (him) or he could be talking total bollocks and has a killing role himself. Who know! Gonna stick with my [vote: Mr Russell] from yesterday


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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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No Nic. I Fos you on day two or three I believe. As you seem to be copying Mr Russ.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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What about option 5

We do nothing, nothing happens, we survive until we die here

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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No Nic. I Fos you on day two or three I believe. As you seem to be copying Mr Russ.


By copying you mean have the same role????

Kill me find out that I'm not lying if it makes you happy.


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That might be why i am voting for you!!

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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This is too quiet!

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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Room Scum Day 6

VOTE UPDATE

mr russell: 1 (nickachu)
nickachu: 2 (Mr Russell, KovacsC)

Not voted: 7 (slightly green, grim..., sdg, thevision, malc, saturnalian, mr dave)

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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[vote:Mr Dave]

I think we need to do something, and he seems to be the biggest proponent of doing nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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[vote:novote]

A bit late, but I don't think you can do this.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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Grim... wrote:
sdg wrote:
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A bit late, but I don't think you can do this.

It says 6 no lynch votes are required to do nothing on the counter, so the syntax will need changing.

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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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Bascially, this will be another day of do nothing and hope we survive....

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And so it begins...

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It is not a so it beigns..

You and SDG asked for a no lynch and not to press anything.

Folks ignored that!!

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And that says a lot about you, really, doesn't it.

Likes killing.
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 Post subject: Re: Room Scum Day 6
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Mr Dave wrote:
And that says a lot about you, really, doesn't it.

Likes killing.
Paranoid.
etc.


No i just don't see how doing nothing helps, we get no info, and a it allows the mafia to pick us off..

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