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Author:  Trooper [ Wed Apr 10, 2013 22:27 ]
Post subject:  Room Scum Day 5

You wake, most of you.

That was... mildy arousing.



The monitor shows another room.
Shown is bobbyaro, he is standing in a room with 16 buttons on one wall and 1 button labelled "intercom" on another wall.
He looks up, you see a gas entering the room. He collapses.
The screen goes black, followed by three messages.

Code:
Player 11
Town
Tweet


Continue.


[playerlist]
Slightly Green
Grim...
sdg
thevision
Mr Russell
Malc
Saturnalian
nickachu
Mr Dave
KovacsC
[/playerlist]

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With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch

Day 5 ends Friday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.

Can a mod do the dead thread access please.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 0:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Apart from me, Bobby was the only other person to single out Kovacs.

My theory: It looked like I'd get bumped off today so he went for Bobby.

Author:  nickachu [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Sorry I didn't speak yesterday that lack of food and natural light is killing me (I may have been working/nursing a hangover)

So after a successful day yesterday, we've lost a townie, we have no idea how many bad guys there are. I'm pretty sure russ is town if he had exactly the same role as me. Reading what happened yesterday I'm fossing KovacsC for some reason. I don't know he just seems dodgy.
[vote:KovacsC]

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:41 ]
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Tweet?

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:08 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Tweet?

He said a keyboard appeared and he could type 140 characters, but I don't know what happened to these messages.

Did anyone get anything?

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:09 ]
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Oh, and after the "any requests, gossip, actions" end line yesterday from Trooper I PM'd and asked to kill Nickachu.

I obviously have no kill power :)

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

I got a tweet from Bobby last night.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:55 ]
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Sigh, Bobby was the most townly of us all.

Double sigh, we have a psychopath in our midst.

On the positive side, I've apparently always felt fine, and would be willing to vote Kovacs. But later.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

I found a townie. I'm not sure if I should say the number or not - it won't exactly help the rest of us when we can't look it up.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:36 ]
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nickachu wrote:
Sorry I didn't speak yesterday that lack of food and natural light is killing me (I may have been working/nursing a hangover)

So after a successful day yesterday, we've lost a townie, we have no idea how many bad guys there are. I'm pretty sure russ is town if he had exactly the same role as me. Reading what happened yesterday I'm fossing KovacsC for some reason. I don't know he just seems dodgy.
[vote:KovacsC]



Wow this is the first thing you said without copy Russ!

I like how you voted for me after I FOS you yesterday.

Well played sir!

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

copying not copy*

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:44 ]
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[vote:saturnalian] for the same reasons as yesterday.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:48 ]
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I knew you'd come at me again. I pretty much said so in my first post of the day.

You and Malc appear to be aligned somehow.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Aligned in the way we both voted for you.

In that case you must be 'aligned' to Zaphod who was a cultist!!

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:50 ]
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Also you have not said anything for me to change me vote..

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:54 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Aligned in the way we both voted for you.

In that case you must be 'aligned' to Zaphod who was a cultist!!


Because I voted to lynch him? And early on too before others jumped on the bandwagon?

Author:  Slightly Green [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

I was blocked last night and it also seems that the evil genius running this sick and twisted game made a mistake and I was also blocked the night before when I investigated DavPaz, but since he died that is neither here or there.

So either the mafia Role blocker has me in his sights or the town one is blocking me accidentally.

What are the odds that the mafia started with -

A Roleblocker
A Investigator
A person with a list - Cras? (his label upon death was Kill not list)
A killer - DavPaz
A Don

That is a very large group with only 16 people playing and also us having a Cult in the game.

If they do have a investigator then that would be Grim...

Am not sure what the fuck is happening tbh

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Grim... wrote:
I found a townie. I'm not sure if I should say the number or not - it won't exactly help the rest of us when we can't look it up.

I cant see how it can harm, given the mafia already know who is and isn't on their side.

On the other hand, there may be a furtive townie that it helps in some regard.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

I pressed a button but it wouldn't go in. I've no idea if this means anything (since none of buttons appear to work anyway) or someone with powah is behind it.

I don't think I've heard enough from Nic to make any decision about what he may be. We've not heard anything about these rooms with one button at all.

Lets see what Cras said:

[quote=Cras (Day 3)]We were all supposed to target Curio last night, but one person had already targetted someone else, one person has the list so I suspect doesn't have a kill, and the other has the 'only one button' thingy./[/quote]

Let's say that Cras was telling the truth; there were four Mafia so there's two left. Both Cras and DP had kill roles so I imagine they're out of kill roles (there was only one kill last night?). One still has The List. One has a One Button thingy. Russ and Nic confess to having One Button. What does the One Button do?

And there must be more cultists or converted to cultists out there. Do they normally have more than one person doing the recruiting since it would appear that person was offed early on so the damage might be limited.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:00 ]
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Slightly Green wrote:
If they do have a investigator then that would be Grim...

I guess so, but all I've been told is "survive". I can't talk to anyone else or owt.

I could press my own button, I guess :hat:

I chose #1 last night, so #1 - you're "town".

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:02 ]
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I don't know my number so I've no idea if that's me or not.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:02 ]
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Could it be that person is protected or dead?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:07 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
I don't know my number so I've no idea if that's me or not.

Oh shit, neither do I! I just assumed I did.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Well Cras said I am number 12

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:59 ]
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Slightly Green wrote:
A person with a list - Cras? (his label upon death was Kill not list)


Didn't Cras say he didn't have the list but he knew what was on it?

Anyhoo, it's time to put my cards on the table [vote: Kovacs].

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:03 ]
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[vote: KovacsC] Hnnngh!

All that talk yesterday about how "I'm vanilla town" just doesn't sit right with me. Bobby didn't think so either and we know he was town.

I'd say if Kov turns out to be mafia then Malc probably is too. Only problem then is that the cult might be making/have made some moves.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:08 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
[vote: KovacsC] Hnnngh!

All that talk yesterday about how "I'm vanilla town" just doesn't sit right with me. Bobby didn't think so either and we know he was town.

I'd say if Kov turns out to be mafia then Malc probably is too. Only problem then is that the cult might be making/have made some moves.



The argument 'Bobby didn't think so either and we know he was town' is a rubbish one, as townies don't know who each other are and have no way of communicating if we did.

I don't think I am cult or mafia, as I have not been contacted by wither and my win is survive.

Not much more I can say is there?

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Bobby had an intercom though so I don't know who he was talking to or whether he'd been speaking to someone with an investigative role/list etc.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

We all have intercoms... this is how we 'all' talk to each other.

By what has been said we have discovered that there in addition to the intercom the following:-
16 Buttons,
Private Intercom
List

I only have 16 buttons and the intercom, no list, no private intercom etc...

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

KovacsC wrote:
We all have intercoms... this is how we 'all' talk to each other.


Goddamn it, you're right. :DD Cor, I'm really rubbish at this. I'll shut up now.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Saturnalian wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
We all have intercoms... this is how we 'all' talk to each other.


Goddamn it, you're right. :DD Cor, I'm really rubbish at this. I'll shut up now.



So if you could unvote me we will say no more about it :DD

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:47 ]
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Ok, I'll [vote: unvote] until someone comes along to tell me who I should be voting for.

I wish I was part of a team now so I could at least pretend to know what I was doing!

Author:  nickachu [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 15:10 ]
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How can you all have so much energy after 5 days without food or daylight!

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 15:44 ]
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Quiet in these rooms, init? The smell from one corner is now becoming unbearable.

Author:  nickachu [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 15:49 ]
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I think Kovacs is being fed by his mafia buddies, somehow, either that or surviving off eating the flies that have more than certainly developed around his stool.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 15:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

I don't know what I can really say, I know nothing.

Author:  sdg [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 15:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Mr Dave wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I found a townie. I'm not sure if I should say the number or not - it won't exactly help the rest of us when we can't look it up.

I cant see how it can harm, given the mafia already know who is and isn't on their side.

On the other hand, there may be a furtive townie that it helps in some regard.

Well, this has made my mind up! We have two bad groups, mafia and cult. Interesting you only mention one. And so I see no benefit to grim revealing what he knew.
I think you're a baddy, I just don't know if you're mafia and that why you only mentioned them, or you're cult and that's why you didn't mention them!
[vote:MrDave]

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 15:56 ]
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sdg wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I found a townie. I'm not sure if I should say the number or not - it won't exactly help the rest of us when we can't look it up.

I cant see how it can harm, given the mafia already know who is and isn't on their side.

On the other hand, there may be a furtive townie that it helps in some regard.

Well, this has made my mind up! We have two bad groups, mafia and cult. Interesting you only mention one. And so I see no benefit to grim revealing what he knew.
I think you're a baddy, I just don't know if you're mafia and that why you only mentioned them, or you're cult and that's why you didn't mention them!
[vote:MrDave]


See yesterday. I explain why I dont give a damn about them. That is to say: a cult member does not stand against my win condition.

Do they stand against yours?

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 15:59 ]
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And if they don't, and you suspect me of being cult, why are you voting for me?

(also, I think theres only 1, non recruiting cult member alive anyway, but it doesn'tmatter if I'm wrong)

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:02 ]
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Furthermore, if there is still an active cult, that works in my favour as they're going to he actively working against a group.who probably do oppose myvwin condition.

Author:  sdg [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Ok...its really counter intuitive to me to think that we should let a cult work unimpeded but I have just understood what you mean. My thinking was that I don't want to be recruited by the cult because they're baddies but I see what you mean, in the cult I would have just as much chance of survival. Ok, [vote:unvote] in that case I'm not sure what to do. People seem to suspect Kovacs and a potential link between him and Malc, I'd happily vote for either of them in the hopes of it leading to two bad guys. Let me reread to see if anyone else stands out.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:09 ]
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Oh. and some more thoughts for you:

Given that yesterday I suggested that killing people should only do so if it was required for them to win.We had a kill.overnight suggesting one of three things.
1) They have a condition which requires killing
2) They didn't agree with anything I wrote yesterday.
3) They didnt read.what I wrote yesterday.

Nobody said 2 publicly.

Im guessing you could come under 3 on that list.

Author:  sdg [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:18 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Oh. and some more thoughts for you:

Given that yesterday I suggested that killing people should only do so if it was required for them to win.We had a kill.overnight suggesting one of three things.
1) They have a condition which requires killing
2) They didn't agree with anything I wrote yesterday.
3) They didnt read.what I wrote yesterday.

Nobody said 2 publicly.

Im guessing you could come under 3 on that list.

I read what you wrote yesterday but I didn't understand what you meant about the cult etc. it's irrelevant anyway, I've not bothered pressing a button for the last two nights.

Author:  sdg [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:26 ]
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Right, lets try and get some thoughts down on paper.

Slightly Green-I think good
Grim...-I think good, if not good then harmless unless he's lying about being blocked which I suppose is possible.
sdg-I'm good but there's nothing to confirm that for the rest of you
thevision-quiet. No idea so a suspect.
Mr Russell-as above. Suspect.
Malc-possible link with kov according to someone earlier. No idea. Suspect.
Saturnalian-I don't know but I think good?
nickachu-quiet. No idea so suspect.
Mr Dave-I don't know, suspect but less so than others.
KovacsC-suspect.
[/playerlist]
So my list if people I'd vote for today is Kovacs, nick, Malc, MrRussell or TheVision.
Anyone else got thoughts or lists?

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:29 ]
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Frankly, any kind of pattern spotting requires more knowledge of the rules than we currently have.

From an informational point of view we've got a rather severe handicap as the people Im presuming are bad know what numbers are who, and probably a good idea about what their buttons do.

Checking over peoples behaviour to Craster and DavPaz may well be a waste of time as they didn't really scream out "team" to me (which is why I was hoping for a peaceful resolution yesterday)

About the only clue we have is.that.Grim... is no longer blocked which may indicate a number of things. Unfortunately his ability is rather useless even when unblocked.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:42 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Unfortunately his ability is rather useless even when unblocked.

:'(

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:44 ]
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Thinking on, I just want to survive this.

So [vote:saturnalian]. No real reason man - it's just that you're not me.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

I'd suggest that the talkies gang up on the non-talkies. After we get Kovs first cause he's still dodgy, ain't he? People seem to think he is, I see, which verifies it for me.

Author:  sdg [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

Well why don't we stop voting for the day and try and get a written agreement in here from everyone to not carry out any night actions? Whoever carried out last nights kill either didn't read the whole thread yesterday or did and didn't care.
Either the person with the kill role is mafia, is a serial killer or is a townie who maybe doesn't realise they are doing the killing? (That sounds a bit mad though).
So, the potential win conditions. We have survive, and craster stated that was his as well. That suggest that we could safely gamble one nights activities on the mafia team all having that condition.
A serial killer. If there is one, their win condition could be to kill x amount of people so stopping killing wouldn't benefit them, but a group agreement to not carry out a night activity should prove the existence or not of a serial killer. If they don't exist, the game should be over.
If its a townie unwittingly doing the killing, they should also pay attention to this.

Every player should post in this thread acknowledging they have read this. For tonight, we should agree not to carry out any night activity (perhaps even message trooper to that effect to end the night sooner.) if everyone has the win condition survive, we all survive and therefore all win. If we get that acknowledgment from each Person, we should then all vote for a non vote.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 16:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Room Scum Day 5

sdg wrote:
Well why don't we stop voting for the day and try and get a written agreement in here from everyone to not carry out any night actions? Whoever carried out last nights kill either didn't read the whole thread yesterday or did and didn't care.
Either the person with the kill role is mafia, is a serial killer or is a townie who maybe doesn't realise they are doing the killing? (That sounds a bit mad though).
So, the potential win conditions. We have survive, and craster stated that was his as well. That suggest that we could safely gamble one nights activities on the mafia team all having that condition.
A serial killer. If there is one, their win condition could be to kill x amount of people so stopping killing wouldn't benefit them, but a group agreement to not carry out a night activity should prove the existence or not of a serial killer. If they don't exist, the game should be over.
If its a townie unwittingly doing the killing, they should also pay attention to this.

Every player should post in this thread acknowledging they have read this. For tonight, we should agree not to carry out any night activity (perhaps even message trooper to that effect to end the night sooner.) if everyone has the win condition survive, we all survive and therefore all win. If we get that acknowledgment from each Person, we should then all vote for a non vote.


I'm ok with that, all things told.

I wont even furtively push any buttons.

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