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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 14:00 
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I meant the cop has investigated you but not said what the result was. Because he won't believe my win condition is town and i must find the necromancer. or soemthing. So, if I die, you have to rely on the word of Grim... whose win condition is not town.

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 14:01 
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Bobbyaro wrote:
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here are my notes:

here are my notes:

Grim... - alignment neutral, roleplaying an idiot
kalmar - cop knows what he is
Malc - unknown
MaliA - awesome dashing hero of the town, underappreciated.
Slightly Green - lover town
Nickachu - town
Goddess Jasmine
SDG - unkonwn
Malc74 - wants me dead so clearly evil, was in with vioting for me last giht with Craster.
Bobbyaro - cop knows what he is


The cop died on night one, how can they know anything?


The other cop. The one whose results are the wrong way around.

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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You are a loon, and if you do have a town win condition you'll stop muddying the waters by talking such utter nonsense like you have it on authority.
The cop died on night 1 she would not have received any results, certainly not 2 results.
Saturnalian was a dumb cop (and given his voting for me, I assume he investigated me and got "not town" back as the response)


Also also, Zaphod was a psychic, how many people can speak to the dead in this town? Fucking weirdos the lot of you.


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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 14:06 
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Why I want to vote for malc74:

He was one of the last to vote for alarm when it was looking like the mafia don was going to be lynched.
He wants to kill me even though my win condition is town.

Saturnalian just said the other two investigations came back as "Not town" so, belieiving they were real, he voted along with them.

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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So:
Grim... - alignment neutral, roleplaying an idiot
kalmar - town
Malc - unknown
MaliA - awesome dashing hero of the town, underappreciated.
Slightly Green - lover town
Nickachu - town
Goddess Jasmine
SDG - unkonwn
Malc74 - wants me dead so clearly evil, was in with vioting for me last giht with Craster.
Bobbyaro - town

So:

Town win condition that I am sure of now:
Mali
Bobby
Kalmar
Slightly Green

Confident of:

Nikachu

Neutral win condition:
Grim...

Unknown

Malc74
malc
GJ
sdg


I think that is it.

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 14:09 
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So, for greatest chance of hitting a not town person, vote:

Malc74
malc
GJ
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Neutral

Grim...

Town
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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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Oh, and there is a serial killer about as well, as there are two kills a night. What is a serial killer's typical win condition?

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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Right, someone correct this if it is wrong:
Day 3 (may not be in order of occurrence)
1) MaliA has a small run against him - admits to being brought back from the dead.
2) MaliA claims not to know how he was brought back, nor who performed said act.
3) MaliA claims to be able to see the dead thread.
4) MaliA claims to be able to post in the dead thread (??)
5) TFF was a cop - apparently she won't tell MaliA who she investigated (according to MaliA) NB: MaliA could have said otherwise to this
6) MaliA spends yesterday obfuscating and flip-flopping between votes
7) when challenged MaliA "proves" he is able to at least communicate with Trooper in the dead thread (or SG in game)
Day 4
Inept cop dead
1) Malia Claims Saturnalian investigated Grim... and received "town" as the result
2) MaliA then votes for malc74 (WTF?)
3) Grim.. counter claims MaliA about Saturnalian's comments in dead thread
4) Grim... also claims to be able to see the dead thread, Malia mentions a "clairvoyant"
5) Malia votes for Grim...
6) Malia unvotes
7) Malia votes for Grim...
8) Grim... claims MaliA knows what he is (see point 4)
9) MaliA claims Grim... can write in the dead thread - Grim... previously only claimed ability to "see" it.
10) MaliA claims Grim... can switch sides and has "survive" as a win condition
11) Grim.. doesn't really refute this
12) Malia votes for Malc74 (again)


Clarification on this comment by Grim...? What do you mean by "dead"?
I knew you were a zombie, turned by a necromancer, as it's pretty much the first "dead" thing you said

A fair summary?

Bloody Hell, okay...

1) Yup. I knew what he was, because he blundered into the dead thread shouting about it.
2) The first part is true, don't know about the second part.
3) This is true.
4) As is this.
5) And this - although Mali is saying it was Kalmar. Maybe she mentioned that, I'll have a check.
6) He certainly did.
7) Yup.

1) Yup.
2) Yup, no clue.
3) Indeed. He said I was "not town". Then we had to figure out if that was the proper answer, or the one he was given. Mali posted the opposite before we'd done that, however.
4) Yup, we can both communicate with the dead. I think we've proved beyond doubt that either Mali and I have some crazy death wish, or that's true.
5 - 7) Not sure what he was going there.
8) He did. I explained it in the dead thread.
9) True - however, he know I could write in it, as I had. I didn't miss that bit out on purpose, I just figured people would assume.
10) I do currently have "survive", but "switch sides" is a rather simplistic take on what I can do. I can't choose sides, for example.
11) I was rather annoyed he'd missed the important bits out, and rather annoyed that he'd told you at all - I'd rather people with guns stayed away from me (especially now they're not doing so well)
12) Yup. He said in the dead thread he was going to do this, and we should leave the "Grim... vs Mali" thing until tomorrow.

By "dead", I mean "in the dead thread".

So, me then - here's what I said to the departed people. I didn't really want people to know yet, because I wanted to help get rid of as many people that could kill me as possible first.

Trancing Grim... wrote:
Hello, deadies. I am the Mysterious Clairvoyant. [Audience: Ooooooh!]

I can (obviously) see and post in the dead thread. Any night I can decide to "transcend" and put myself into a coma, whereby I can't be killed but I can't talk in the day thread. However, I will be assigned a random "mortal kontact" ( :D ) who I can talk freely with in private.

Right now, my win condition is 'survive', but when I get my mortal kontact, I inherit their win condition.

Clearly I've learned a lot of stuff so far. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 14:16 
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Bobbyaro wrote:
The cop died on night 1 she would not have received any results, certainly not 2 results.
Saturnalian was a dumb cop (and given his voting for me, I assume he investigated me and got "not town" back as the response)


Also also, Zaphod was a psychic, how many people can speak to the dead in this town? Fucking weirdos the lot of you.


BIG FoS on bobby for this.

TFF would have investigated on the first night and got the result as investigate comes before a kill action, This has been confirmed by Grim... and Malia

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dead thread: I thought it would be good to see what the town cop knew sooner rather than later to help the town.

Oooh, what do they know? Oh, that's right, they won't tell you.



Zaphod being a psychic gave him the ability to get some last min info from a dead person, NOT SEE THE DEAD THREAD, try reading the rules

Malia why have you got Bobby as definate Town? he seems very dodgy to me.

Having said all that even with all the bumbling and water muddying from Malia I am more inclined to remove Grim from the picture as he has had access to the dead thread the whole game and has not helped the town at all with information. [vote:Grim...]

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MaliA wrote:
Oh, and there is a serial killer about as well, as there are two kills a night. What is a serial killer's typical win condition?

It's not "survive", if that's what you're getting at.

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Having said all that even with all the bumbling and water muddying from Malia I am more inclined to remove Grim from the picture as he has had access to the dead thread the whole game and has not helped the town at all with information. [vote:Grim...]

There wasn't any!

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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Grim... wrote:
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Oh, and there is a serial killer about as well, as there are two kills a night. What is a serial killer's typical win condition?

It's not "survive", if that's what you're getting at.


No, it wasn't. Sorry about that. I genuinely couldn't remember.

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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Just seen your post, it went up as I was posting, [vote:unvote] fucking hell, I have no idea what the fucks going on now

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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So malia what makes you sure Bobby is town? he seems to have a strange way of looking at the game, I think he is scum

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Grim... wrote:
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Having said all that even with all the bumbling and water muddying from Malia I am more inclined to remove Grim from the picture as he has had access to the dead thread the whole game and has not helped the town at all with information. [vote:Grim...]

There wasn't any!

This was somewhat hampered by a big sign, er, on the inside of the graveyard, that said "Yo dead people, there are people in the game that can read this!" and might as well have continued on and said "so don't say anything!".

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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Slightly Green wrote:
Just seen your post, it went up as I was posting, [vote:unvote] fucking hell, I have no idea what the fucks going on now


Saturnalian investigated bobby, kalmar, and grim..

Booby and kalmar came out NOT TOWN so he voted that way, believing it to be true.
Grim... came out TOWN

TFF, the correct cop, says her ionvestigation said TOWN but hasn't said who she investigated.

trooper said SG is good and I was an idiot.

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Everyone said you were an idiot :D

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Trooper is a wise hunky man.

Oki so bobby has either not been reading the rules thread and only skim reading the main thread or is half asleep

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Everyone said you were an idiot :D



lol

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Well if the ghost of TFF is still around, then the information she got would be kind of handy now, as Grim... and malia may both be gone by tomorrow.

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Grim... wrote:
Also, I thought I should mention that none of the "disappeared" people are dead (or, if they are, they're staying quiet).

I figure they've been kidnapped, which could become a big deal soon. We've got nothing to go on there, though, so it's fairly moot right now.

On this, I asked the dead people but so far only Craster has said anything ("They're all mafia. Lynch them if they turn up") which isn't exactly useful :)

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I still don't have a clue what is going on!


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Blind Scum 3 Day 4

VOTE UPDATE

grim...: 1 (Malc)
malc74: 1 (MaliA)
malia: 3 (Grim..., Malc74, nickachu)

Not voted: 5 (kalmar, slightly green, goddess jasmine, sdg, bobbyaro)

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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I don't see why I'm an idiot. I've been trying to (a) stay alive and (b) help the town.

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It is the "MaliA is a zombie! Kill him!" lunacy that has followed has muddied the waters. In fact, it is pretty much grim..'s and malc 74's contribution. I've provided information and analysis that has had mud thrown at it by the anti people elague, as I am a vanilla townie zombie with a win condition of town and i want the town to win. Malc74 and grim.. are not either of those things.

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Slightly Green wrote:
Trooper is a wise hunky man.

Oki so bobby has either not been reading the rules thread and only skim reading the main thread or is half asleep

WTF, how could TFF have received any report if she was dead? (No game I have played in before gives the dead person the results of their investigation if they are killed that night - or so I believe)


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Bobbyaro wrote:
Slightly Green wrote:
Trooper is a wise hunky man.

Oki so bobby has either not been reading the rules thread and only skim reading the main thread or is half asleep

WTF, how could TFF have received any report if she was dead? (No game I have played in before gives the dead person the results of their investigation if they are killed that night - or so I believe)

This one does.

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MaliA wrote:
It is the "MaliA is a zombie! Kill him!" lunacy that has followed has muddied the waters.
So why did you lie about it?

MaliA wrote:
In fact, it is pretty much grim..'s and malc 74's contribution.
Well, we're not far from being the only other people contributing ;)

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I've provided information and analysis that has had mud thrown at it by the anti people elague
Please show me when I've thrown mud at your information k thnx

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1) I didn't lie. I said I was dead and and a man made me better. It was more an omission, rather than lying, because zombies = BAD PEOPLE in your world when my win condition has not changed.

"MaliA is evil and must die" is throwing mud at my super clever reasoning and deductive skills.

And, yes, it appears we are. Is there a correlation between post count and disappearing?

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MaliA wrote:
1) I didn't lie. I said I was dead and and a man made me better.

After three hours, eight posts and a page and a half of saying the smell had nothing to do with you, of course.

MaliA wrote:
And, yes, it appears we are. Is there a correlation between post count and disappearing?

Dunno, but we can work it out.
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Grim... wrote:
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1) I didn't lie. I said I was dead and and a man made me better.

After three hours, eight posts and a page and a half of saying the smell had nothing to do with you, of course.

And you jumped straight into voting for me when I mentioned it, and then off again when you realised how scummy you looked.

To be honest, I'm thinking less and less that you're a townie that we should be rid of and more and more that you're a baddy we should be rid of.

Best case scenario, you're a friendly zombie (really common, them).
Worst case scenario, you're an unfriendly zombie who is infecting other people and able to pm other members of your mafia team with info from the dead thread.

Why the fuck are you still alive?

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Because I am town, the town know I am town and stuff. i voted for you as a comedy "yous aid I smell" thing. Yhen you psuhed with the zombie thing which I thought would be hazardous to my vanilla townie zombie health. generally, the bad guys know who isn't bad, so can do things like that, and that's how this sort of thing begins, doesn't it?

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Grim... wrote:
MaliA wrote:
1) I didn't lie. I said I was dead and and a man made me better.

After three hours, eight posts and a page and a half of saying the smell had nothing to do with you, of course.

MaliA wrote:
And, yes, it appears we are. Is there a correlation between post count and disappearing?

Dunno, but we can work it out.
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nothing jumps out at first glance.

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Because I am town, the town know I am town and stuff.

I'm thinking that if you were town, you'd know that isn't how it worked.

Come on, other people!

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I've no idea which of MaliA and Grim... is lying or if you're both basically good guys locked into a death-spiral of finger pointing.

For that reason I'll have to vote for someone else for now, sorry [vote:sdg]


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Fuck me, you eat people :D

A rather helpful spirit has just pointed out that a certain dead psychic said "Would you like a drink to wash down some Morte or Davpaz?" when Mali appeared in the dead thread.

It appears I'm blind :facepalm:

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I was talking about Mali there, in case anyone didn't guess.

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I've no idea which of MaliA and Grim... is lying or if you're both basically good guys locked into a death-spiral of finger pointing.

There's a very fucking simple way to find out, and that involves voting for captain chomp.

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Grim... wrote:
Fuck me, you eat people :D

A rather helpful spirit has just pointed out that a certain dead psychic said "Would you like a drink to wash down some Morte or Davpaz?" when Mali appeared in the dead thread.

It appears I'm blind :facepalm:


The funny smell appeared in the town on day 3.
I became a zombie after someone tried to kill me, succeeded on night two, and i was resurrected by the necromancer on the same night.
People have been going missing since night one.
So, it isn't me disappearing people, it is zaphod being wrong.

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The chances of a necromancer (who I now don't believe exists) managing to target someone on the night they die is minute, especially with that many people in the game.

I think you've been a zombie from day one, and have been slowly decomposing.

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kalmar wrote:
I've no idea which of MaliA and Grim... is lying or if you're both basically good guys locked into a death-spiral of finger pointing.

For that reason I'll have to vote for someone else for now, sorry [vote:sdg]


The cop who had it the wrong way got the result of TOWN for grim...
This emans Grim..'s win condition is not the town.
His win condition is to survive any way he can.
Grim.. can become invincible for an evening, but then his win condition changes to somehting else. We will know this as he won't speak the next day. So he could change to mafia, and not tell us, and then when it is all over he will laugh his big silly laugh at us as we all beleived he would help us.

My win condition is the town. Just like Slightly green's, bobby and kalmar's.

Helping Mali helps the town.
helping Grim helps grim...
helping sdg isn't as likely to help the town at all.

vote Malc74 to remove the mafia!

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MaliA wrote:
The cop who had it the wrong way got the result of TOWN for grim...

Which you felt the need to point out before he'd even said what the result was.

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This emans Grim..'s win condition is not the town.

Not a secret.

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His win condition is to survive any way he can.

No it's not. Do you even read other people's posts?

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Grim.. can become invincible for an evening,

No I can't. Jesus Christ!

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We will know this as he won't speak the next day.

I won't speak again ever.

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So he could change to mafia, and not tell us, and then when it is all over he will laugh his big silly laugh at us as we all beleived he would help us.

This is true, but fortunately there's not so many of them left now. Or, worryingly, I could change to you.

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My win condition is the town.

Is it arse.

MaliA wrote:
Just like Slightly green's, bobby and kalmar's.

Just repeating what a dead person says doesn't make you a good guy, you know.

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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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MaliA appears to be this games Trooper for Grim... to bicker with :DD

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Slightly Green wrote:
MaliA appears to be this games Trooper for Grim... to bicker with :DD

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This is ace.

Can someone help me understand what official and theorised badguys are still on the radar, as looking at the rules isn't really enlightening me, what with all the zombies and necromancers and dead-thread-reading characters floating about in here.


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 Post subject: Re: Blind Scum 3 Day 4
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Baddies are whoever is/are doing the shooting (two per night), and whoever is doing the disappearing (who is Mali).

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Oh, and there might still be a cult.

And, of course, there might well be terrorists and werewolves and politicians and porn stars.

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Grim... wrote:
Baddies are whoever is/are doing the shooting (two per night), and whoever is doing the disappearing (who is Mali).


I'm not doing the disappearing.
We can get rid of a mafia tonight if you vote malc74.

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Why don't you want to vote for someone who is more likely than not a mafia?

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