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Blind Scum 3 Day 3
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Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:49 ]
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I consider my voting in light of new evidence and unfolding events.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:51 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
the bad guys know who is bad already.


The bad guys know who their bad guys are.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:56 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
Another is, given the smell was about before Mali's resurrection, does that mean there is more than one zombie wandering around the place?


When was that, bobster?

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:57 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I consider my voting in light of new evidence and unfolding events.

Okay, work with me on my theory here.

You're a townie. You can read the dead thread, because you're a zombie, created by a Necromancer.

So what's the Necromancer's allegiance? Do you think he's on the same side as the town? If not, how do you think he wins?

And if he wins, in part, because you're alive, shouldn't you really be thinking about topping yourself right now for the good of the team?

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:59 ]
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I don't know the necromancer's allegiance.

I'm running with the idea that to create a zombie, he must target someone who is killed on that night, otherwise there would be a second zombie (Smell first mentioned on day three). As a result, his win condition is fairly unlikely, and my continued undeadness is of more use right now.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:04 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I don't know the necromancer's allegiance.

But what do you think?

MaliA wrote:
I'm running with the idea that to create a zombie, he must target someone who is killed on that night, otherwise there would be a second zombie (Smell first mentioned on day three).

Me too. Seems tricky, though. Or maybe he just got unlucky on day 1 and targeted someone that couldn't be a zombie, and tomorrow they'll be two of you.

MaliA wrote:
As a result, his win condition is fairly unlikely, and my continued undeadness is of more use right now.

It really isn't.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:07 ]
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You want me dead (again)as you are teh evils and failed last night.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:12 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Your argument is too strong for me!

Feex.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:25 ]
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<rolls eyes>

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:27 ]
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They were all perfectly reasonable points, which you decided to ignore.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:41 ]
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Even if the necromancer is evil, his win condition is unlikely, so I'm not sure how offing me is of any use to anyone, except evil people.

Author:  Malc [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:45 ]
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What's his win condition Malia?

I think you're the necromancer, and all you can do is talk to the dead, not raise them.

Malc

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:46 ]
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I don't know what his win condition is.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:47 ]
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We're speculating, but I would hazard a guess of "raise X zombies"

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:47 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Even if the necromancer is evil, his win condition is unlikely, so I'm not sure how offing me is of any use to anyone, except evil people.

Why would it be of use to evil people? All you've done so far is hand them a townie to go after, and be a "not in their team" target for the day. So I'd imagine evil people are quite happy to have you alive.

Author:  sdg [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 13:12 ]
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I'm really unsure about what to do. Sg, did you post anything to hint at your role as secret lover, to attract trooper? I'm assuming you had to search for him each night, did you ever suspect trooper?
MaliA, what was your role before you were changed?

Author:  Cras [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 13:14 ]
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sdg wrote:
I'm really unsure about what to do. Sg, did you post anything to hint at your role as secret lover, to attract trooper? I'm assuming you had to search for him each night, did you ever suspect trooper?


From the role description, I think it's pretty clear that they were told who each other was, they just weren't allowed to communicate.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 13:14 ]
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sdg wrote:
MaliA, what was your role before you were changed?


Townie. The only difference between tehn and now is I can see the dead thread and I have to guess who the necromancer is as a secondary win condition.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 13:41 ]
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Sorry, my bad, I thought the smell was mentioned yesterday, not this morning. Been a long day, this one.

There is one other potential point in keeping Maila alive, If there is a necromancer gahering an army of evil dead to do his bidding, they are a threat to the mafia, so the mafia have to kill malia overnight to minimise the threat to the mafia.

Also,
malc wrote:
I think you're the necromancer, and all you can do is talk to the dead, not raise them.


Really? Where the hell did this come from? Are you seriously suggesting that malia gave up a role we had no idea about with the thin trace of getting out alive by pretending to be a zombie rather than a necromancer? WTF?

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 13:51 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
There is one other potential point in keeping Maila alive, If there is a necromancer gahering an army of evil dead to do his bidding, they are a threat to the mafia, so the mafia have to kill malia overnight to minimise the threat to the mafia.


This seems like you're reaching out to the mafia. The word Mafia is mention 3 times in the paragraph.

Author:  Malc [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 13:51 ]
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Maybe when you put it like that!

But why would a zombie be able to speak to the dead?

Imagine there is a necromancer, and they are successful in raising several zombies, that's a lot of people able to talk to the dead, and presumably each other in the dead thread. - Neverminding that necromancy is technically communicating with the dead (or using their bodies to divine information) and not raising them back to life.

It just seems unlikely to me, it seems more likely to me that there would be one person who can speak to the dead, rather than one person who can make lots of people speak to the dead, and also this person who can raise the dead, can't actually speak to the dead himself?

I just don't see it, either Mali is making this all up, or he has had the ability to talk to the dead from the start.

The other co-incidence is that the way he's discribing how he was turned is that he was killed by one person, and then "saved" by another. That's quite a coincidence!

It's all just too far fetched in my opininon (which may of course be wrong)

Malc

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 13:54 ]
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I'm not evil. my win conditin is town. maliA = not evil.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:04 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
There is one other potential point in keeping Maila alive, If there is a necromancer gahering an army of evil dead to do his bidding, they are a threat to the mafia, so the mafia have to kill malia overnight to minimise the threat to the mafia.


This seems like you're reaching out to the mafia. The word Mafia is mention 3 times in the paragraph.

This seems to me that you are reaching out to the mafia, you mention mafia twice in that short paragraph and mention reaching out!

WTF? What the hell is "reaching out to the mafia"?

Author:  Malc [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:04 ]
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The only reason I have not yet voted for you is that I'm not sure if you're a good necromancer or a bad one

Malc

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:07 ]
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I thought this was Blind Scum where each other starts off not knowing the roles of anyone else including their own? Rulez check please!

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:08 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
I thought this was Blind Scum where each other starts off not knowing the roles of anyone else including their own? Rulez check please!


I mean, the other people in their own group.

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:08 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
I thought this was Blind Scum where each other starts off not knowing the roles of anyone else including their own faction or group (if they're in one)? Rulez check please!


Feex. You know what I meant, right? Right? RIGHT?

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:10 ]
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Yes. Please note: We have less than two hours to heroically save the town and kill a mafiosi.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:14 ]
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malc74: 1 (MaliA)
bobbyaro: 1 (Saturnalian)
sdg: 1 (Bobbyaro)
goddess jasmine: 2 (Malc, kalmar)
malia: 4 (Grim..., nickachu, Craster, Malc74)

Not voted: 4 (slightly green, goddess jasmine, sdg, thevision)

With 13 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 7 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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1 hour 45 minutes.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:18 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
malc wrote:
I think you're the necromancer, and all you can do is talk to the dead, not raise them.


Really? Where the hell did this come from? Are you seriously suggesting that malia gave up a role we had no idea about with the thin trace of getting out alive by pretending to be a zombie rather than a necromancer? WTF?

Also, he smells like a zombie :shrug:

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:19 ]
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Shift your votes to Bobby, voters! Join me! Save the World! Exclamation mark!

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:20 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Shift your votes to Bobby, voters! Join me! Save the World! Exclamation mark!

You'd have to give me a very good reason to be keep Mali alive <narrows eyes>

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:21 ]
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keeping*

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:27 ]
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Well, for a start, you ain't going to get the numbers today to lynch him; there's too much doubt in people's minds for today. It might not seem Black and white but I reckon Bobby is better.

Author:  Slightly Green [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:37 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
I thought this was Blind Scum where each other starts off not knowing the roles of anyone else including their own? Rulez check please!


I mean, the other people in their own group.


I knew that Trooper was my secret lover at the start of the game, we can't communicate other than in the normal game thread. If you read the role description it explains it all.

I am willing to vote for bobby (or anyone else if given good reasons) please state you reasons for bobby, I am not going to vote just because you point at him and say 'he's a bad un!!'

Author:  Slightly Green [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:38 ]
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Also no I have re-read mine and Troopers posts and neither of us gave away who the other was, so either Malia can see the dead thread or he made a bloody good guess at me.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:38 ]
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I think Bobby is OK at the moment. It is the malcs that are behaving like mafia, and grim...

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:46 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Well, for a start, you ain't going to get the numbers today to lynch him; there's too much doubt in people's minds for today.

About what?

The only doubt I can think of is "keep Mali alive is a bad idea - but how bad is it?"

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 14:50 ]
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Why can't I type "keeping"?

Author:  kalmar [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 15:27 ]
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I accept it's probably a bad idea but i'd be inclined to keep MaliA alive/dead just for the hell of it, as the whole zomb thing is intriguing.

He's probably going to hang anyway though...

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 15:29 ]
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"Differently vitaled" if one doesn't mind.

Looks like it will run out as a no lynch. I am not convinced to lynch bobby, but fancy malc74 the most.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 15:30 ]
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Grim..., nickachu, Craster, Malc74

one of those is mafia, and I don't think it is nikachu.

The cop still hasn't told me who is good, mind.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 15:42 ]
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kalmar wrote:
I accept it's probably a bad idea but i'd be inclined to keep MaliA alive/dead just for the hell of it, as the whole zomb thing is intriguing.

Image
Settlementtown, tomorrow.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 15:49 ]
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I'm not infectious and best guess is the necromancer has to target someone who is to die during the night, so that is fairly small odds.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 15:58 ]
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Although craster did not vote for the don, and is voting for me!

Author:  Cras [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 16:00 ]
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I couldn't believe anyone would be so stupid as to out themselves as the don. I was wrong. You, however, are a zombie. This is unequivocal. Zombies are bad, mmmkay?

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 16:03 ]
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The day ends without consensus. People walk and/or shamble their way home.

Night Actions by 10am Tuesday, but the earlier the better.

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