Be Excellent To Each Other

I'm in uni and had a post written out to be posted when I got distracted (by my lecturer, how rude) and couldn't post it. Trooper has hit the nail on the head, by pushign and pushing this point all that has happened is that some people have been shown very cleary to have some form of power role and to the bad guys, this shows them very obviously who to target in the night phases. Granted some of the power roles may be relatively useless like the lover and long lost siblings but some of them will be ones we really want to keep!!

I also don't think that this implicates Trooper, he could very well have recieved a message saying he is a cake maker and once in the game can give the gift of cake. That doesn't mean he's a bad guy.

The information gained is useful but it is going way past and into the realms of dangerous for the town so I suggest we don't keep going over it and instead we try to form opinions about people. I'm sticking with my vote for TFF for the reasons stated yesterday and today. I would vote for Trooper because I think he tried to claim too much credit for getting rid of squirt yesterday but I'm not going to vote for him for missing the point today.

Funny - he couldn't stop discussing it earlier

I, however, and not going to mention it again.

I don't think he would get Grim... to code something in to the forum, just that there is something already in the forum that means you can tell the difference between a vanilla and a power.

Am not*

And that "however" has no real place being there.

No shit, because having people telling me, very unsubtle like, that there is a code and because I can't see that code I must be bad. Funnily I'm going to challenge that as I know that i'm good and it is incorrect.

Sure, don't mention it again, you've done your damage and can walk away and claim the high ground
"Jury, strike that from the record and don't remember it when you come to your deliberations!"

As I said I don't think we should push this point and if you were a good guy you would see the reasons for that and drop it, but let me assure you, as I'm sure Curio would be happy to do (and you'll see post game anyway) it is nothing complicated or technical, or outside the game really anymore than people expecting Curio to be voted for on day one or some people to be vocal while others are typically quite.

I'll mention this: What's this code you keep going on about?

Well he had already said he had thought it was something actually in the forum.

Like the matrix?????

"Read very carefully"
"skip a bit, read a bit, skip a bit"
"spell out your reasons"
"vanilla can see it, power can't"

If that isn't referencing a code of some kind, then I don't know what is. Plus Alberto directly responded to me saying I was bad or stupid if I couldn't see it, when I told him I couldn't work out his code.

I will happily say that it's nothing to do with the way the forum is written.

If it were, how would anyone but me know? And why in God's name would I mention it?

I really am going to leave it there, though.

Someone give Trooper a red pill

I totally agree with you, apart from the reasons stated why I'm your vote, which I really, really don't get / understand! Did I miss this? I thought I wrote a post explaining exactly why I voted the way I did yesterday, why I don't make sense as a vote, and why I'm voting for who I am. Also, I'm agreeing with you about Trooper etc. so why does that make me suss to you?

Just notice people, the ones telling me to stop talking about this are the ones in the so called club...

I'm not telling you to do anything.

Duh. The first rule of so called club is that you don't talk about so called club.

No need, i'm thoroughly enjoying myself

Well, not after the first 46 posts, at least

Damn shame they won't let me in the club, as i'd stop talking about it then

I'm thoroughly enjoying you go mental.

It's like watching sinister agent all over again.

I tell you what, a role of "code buddies" would be awesome - X townies who can talk to each other via PM but only for the first day of the game (or maybe before it), and they have to devise a way to carry on communicating while the game is in progress

Will someone just get lynched already!? My tea's getting cold.

@TFF, readin back through your last five or six posts, you're being a bit schizophrenic, one moment aggreing with someone who suggests voting for Grim... or alberto and they next moment saying you agree with me about everythign except my vote for you. You also seem to try and agree with the most vocal majority who havent been voted for yet and in those posts talk about 'we' when referring to their ideas etc as if you are part of a group with them. I'm not saying you are part of agroup with them, far from it. I'm saying you are tryin tog ive the impressions you are on their side and people should view you as they view them. I have no time left, class finishes at four. I'll be back at 5:30pm, but yeah, looking back through your last five or six posts has only made me feel more sure that you are a baddy.

I can't wait to see what the evening posters think of today when they turn up

I'll be honest, when I started this "club" on Day 1 I really did expect more of an uptake in membership and credibility than I got. It's the fact that people are being dim that is causing the danger; they don't need to wave and shout loudly, we can tell when they join, so I was really hoping we could establish some credible sources without doing what Trooper seems to think was inevitable. It wasn't inevitable. It still isn't, given that I would think there are plenty of vanilla folk out there still.

There's certainly some reading to do.

Maybe if you had actually kept it on the down low, rather than being completely blatant in your clubness, and then accusing me of being bad when I wasn't in it, then you could have done something with it. Having Grim... saying "oh, maybe it isn't obvious, and Alberto started it" isn't really keeping undercover, which is what makes me think this is all bullshit and you wanted your "secret" club to be not so secret, to get people questioning someone who was the most likely townie in the town at the time.

Gosh, this does move fast doesn't it?!

So, we have "vote for Trooper", "sacrifice club member" or "lynch ANOther" as options. I'm fed up arguing, think I'll only end up repeating myself anyway, so I'll wait for the evening folk too

Also, [vote:unvote] because I don't want to see a big stampede for a lynch when they do arrive and inevitably only read the most recent page or two before making their decisions

Let me tell a story. One day, there was a nice man called Trooper. His car had broken down and he was taking the bus instead. It was a nice day anyway, so he didn't mind the walk so much. But - oh no! The bus is already at the stop! Trooper ran like Billy-o, and leapt for the bus just as it was pulling away. But - oh no! The driver didn't see Trooper, and kept driving. Poor Trooper was dragged over the abrasive surface or the road, flesh stipping itself from his knees and elbows, grinding away at the bones underneath. At the next stop, someone gets off and sees poor Trooper, bloody and exhausted, hanging from the bus. They alert the driver who runs around.
"Jesus, man!" says the driver, as the passenger dials 999, "Why did you let me drag you all that way?"
Panting and exhausted, Trooper manages to force out "I have real trouble letting things go."

I'm not being in the slightest bit schizophrenic, I'm working through the arguments put forward, being open minded enough to listen and adapt my vote according to what seems right to me. But, actually, I haven't really changed my mind at all - I still think GJ is suss, but want to vote for Grim... because I think the code group thing is utter rubbish, so he's the most sensible candidate when you add together that + majority voting in order to make sure we get a lynch and gather some useful information.

I still don't think Trooper is a bad guy, but accept I could be wrong and will happily lynch him tomorrow if it turns out anyone he suggested lynching is a fellow townie! I'd say that's fairly consistent behaviour throughout... Which makes me now very suspicious of you, because there's no logical argument / much truth in anything you've just said! And I can't understand why you'd go against someone who a) voted for the now dead mafia guy + b) agrees with you re: Trooper.

I refer to 'we' as in townies, and always have done, but I don't get this code / groupie game thing so don't claim to be a part of that. I'm sure they'd put me in the 'stupid' group for that one if it isn't in fact all total rubbish

Telling me to let something go without explaining it, just makes me more suspicious, you know

I'm going to have to log off until tonight, sticking with my vote, have fun kids!

Poor poor evening people...

Again with the point that I'm not telling you to do anything. That was merely an observation

And I'm observing that you haven't explained this whole situation anywhere close to enough.

Those things Grim... said and did were said and done by Grim..., not me. Not sure why you'd hold his words and actions against me. I only started talking openly about it once he blew it open. I hardly shouted from the rooftops, it took him a day and a half to realise I was his team mate!

When I said you, I meant the club, not you specifically

I only said
Then you voted for Trooper, and he went BOOOOOM

Either way, for a secret club, you weren't making much effort to keep it secret, hence my relentless calls for explanation, which haven't been answered.

Let's all tell the bad guy what's going on? Good try.

I've got to head off for a bit, but before I do: What type of bad guy do you think I am, that I'll happily tell you who my team-mates are?

The same type of bad guy who has a convenient theory that can't be disproved today, and when it does prove to be wrong tomorrow, will try and explain it away as stupidity.

I liked that bit too

So you have no idea, then?

Time will prove me right, or at the very least prove you wrong, which is good enough

Bloody hell! I go out for a couple of hours and come back to this! I don't see a code. I don't see anything but attempts to obfuscate and confuse. I still think Grim...'s a baddun and I'm still sticking with my vote.

Again with the question about just what sort of bad guy I could possibly be?

Let it go grim...

Right, I've ben thinking about this. I still don't trust TFF and am happy to do a big post detailing why now I'm back at a computer (doing it on my mobile while eating dinner in the car would have totally sucked! ), however first of all I think I want to go for a vote on Trooper. I think his reaction today has been so over the top he must be bad. For anyone to think that three or four people would independantly show their hand as being on the same side if they were baddies is just completely ridiculous. I still hope that at some point this evening someone else who is a vanilla townie is going to come in, catch up, read back and be able to step forward with us. If they do and we have five different people claiming this, then surely that puts it way way past the realms of a mafia plot or whatever else people might think, simply because of sheer numbers of those standing together?

So, I really want to vote for Trooper. I think he panicked when he suddenly thought there was something going on. He overestimated what was going and got really nervous that he was caught, hence his reaction today. That, coupled with why I didn't trust him this morning, really makes me think he's a good bet. The best bit is, if he is a bad guy and we lynch him, when this is all over he's going to realise that he dug this hole for himself.

So yeah I think I'll put my money where my mouth is. [vote:Trooper]

What, you can't break my code?

If only to end the noise

[vote: Trooper],