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Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:38 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I think this might be one of the longest runs for a "serial killer", which is surprising.

We've had a couple of SK wins (although mine was only a six-kill win so it didn't properly count), and I've got down to the final day as a 'normal' SK before. Then I think I got shafted.


GJ is, AFAIK, the only person to actually win as a serial killer (as in be the last person standing).

In live games, TFF nearly did it before Joans worked out what was going on and forced the game into a draw.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:46 ]
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This isn't a traditional game, Jock can't be killed so the town will almost certainly win unless by some miracle he runs out of time (I don't think that is a possible scenario anymore though unless he really belms it up).
The SK can still technically win this game though. i.e. meet their win condition regardless of the end outcome.

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:47 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I think this might be one of the longest runs for a "serial killer", which is surprising.

We've had a couple of SK wins (although mine was only a six-kill win so it didn't properly count), and I've got down to the final day as a 'normal' SK before. Then I think I got shafted.


GJ is, AFAIK, the only person to actually win as a serial killer (as in be the last person standing).

In live games, TFF nearly did it before Joans worked out what was going on and forced the game into a draw.


So close...

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:16 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
In live games, TFF nearly did it before Joans worked out what was going on and forced the game into a draw.

I think you mean Joans sat there and cried while TFF and I forced the game into a "baddies win" draw :)

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:18 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
In live games, TFF nearly did it before Joans worked out what was going on and forced the game into a draw.

I think you mean Joans sat there and cried while TFF and I forced the game into a "baddies win" draw :)


<vague memories>

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:21 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
In live games, TFF nearly did it before Joans worked out what was going on and forced the game into a draw.

I think you mean Joans sat there and cried while TFF and I forced the game into a "baddies win" draw :)


Ummm, the pair of you were trying to get Joans to side with you. He realised both of you were evil, called you out on it, and left you with the only option of ending with everyone dead. You had no other choice once he realised this (as a keen observer noted before it even got to the last day).

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:29 ]
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Was that me?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:44 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Ummm, the pair of you were trying to get Joans to side with you.

We were trying to get anyone to side with us.
Curiosity wrote:
He realised both of you were evil, called you out on it, and left you with the only option of ending with everyone dead.

My memory is somewhat different to yours, it would appear - quelle surprise.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:56 ]
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My memory tallies with Curiosities.

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 13:25 ]
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Do you not remember him having a big rant about it, then putting his feet up on the table, Grim...?

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 13:43 ]
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Yeah, Joans called it, sat back with his feet on the table, so you and TFF voted to lynch him, then killed each other in the night phase. Technically Grim... is correct in that it was a baddies draw cf a three way draw, but I am giving it to Joans for the way he put his feet on the table when he called it! :DD

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 13:57 ]
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Three way draw pfft - not when you look at who died first ;)

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 14:11 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Three way draw pfft - not when you look at who died first ;)


:this:

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 14:50 ]
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Final loser != winner

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 15:05 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Never underestimate the stupidity of the town. Particularly when you have half of the axis of belm running the ship.



Craster wrote:
I also think it's worth going for the person that TFF said was good. There must have been a reason for her to say that.


arf.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 15:40 ]
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They should wait until 9:59 for Russ to reveal the name and Craster to do the interrogating. And then hope.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 15:41 ]
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Everyone seems to have missed that they have more time left. The kidnappers wont kill Kima tomorrow as the deadline has been extended due to 2 of them being taken out...

Either way, I think it is likely to be all over tonight, unless a belm happens.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 15:46 ]
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I think Zaphod is bad

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 15:51 ]
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I'd put cash on a belm.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 16:53 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Craster wrote:
I also think it's worth going for the person that TFF said was good. There must have been a reason for her to say that.


arf.

You cant take anything from that. She may not know who was good or bad, and given that by that point she knows that Russ would no longer trudt her information, you cant even guess at the intentions. Best to ignore it as its information that tells you nothing.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 17:09 ]
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Everyone's assuming she could lie about the investigation results, but not about who she investigated.

Also, I'm fairly sure the kidnappers have lost, maths-wise.

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 17:17 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Everyone's assuming she could lie about the investigation results, but not about who she investigated.

Also, I'm fairly sure the kidnappers have lost, maths-wise.


Yes. As long as the numbers were getting reduced, we were boned all along. We could have stopped killing people, but where's the fun in that?

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 17:17 ]
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Yep, I don't think there's any way we can win now.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 17:20 ]
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I didn't expect that pretty much every kill every night would successful, and the SK would last this long, and the blocker would be taken out so early. The game has been faster than expected in whittling down the numbers! If I had known I wouldn't have put the extension clause in :)

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 17:44 ]
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Actually, this may carry on for another day if what I think is about to happen actually happens.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 17:59 ]
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Heh. Way to go Craster, you'll see why that amused me later...

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 18:14 ]
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Well, I'm definitely having a good giggle at all the mischief I've caused!

And the fact that I know exaaactly who eveyone really is. I think. Mwahahaha.

They called me a messer! Boo.

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 19:43 ]
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Balls. Need to get better at being bad... Can't wait to see how this goes tomorrow now!

Author:  Alberto [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 19:48 ]
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They twisted themselves into a mess there didn't they? Not sure they needed to go down the role-claim route really, and like Dave says better to completely disregard TFF's "info" than try and second guess it. If there's 2 good guys and Russ knows 1 then there's a 50-50 chance he's found the CTU Head; which means only a 1 in 6 chance of hitting them with the interrogation. There's a 1 in 6 chance of hitting the regular townie, and a 2 in 3 chance of hitting a ne'er-do-well... those are superb odds to have at this stage of the game, they didn't need a role-claim to improve them; if anything the confusion it has caused weakens their position.

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 20:33 ]
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Thanks for that Trooper. :)

Author:  Mr Russell [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 21:31 ]
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Grim... wrote:
There were two good investigators in a Trooper game, and Russ didn't think "hang on a sec..."? Silly Russ.

I said IRL to Mimi that the town was overpowered, but then there was a Terrorists role revealed and balance was brought to the force.

Author:  Alberto [ Tue Oct 30, 2012 21:51 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There were two good investigators in a Trooper game, and Russ didn't think "hang on a sec..."? Silly Russ.

I said IRL to Mimi that the town was overpowered, but then there was a Terrorists role revealed and balance was brought to the force.

That doesn't remotely relate to what Grim... said ;)

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