Black and Blue

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:12

Hello deadites and observers.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 14:16

Hello.

GazChap · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:09

Well, this is a popular thread

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3219

Hilarious. Hello Gazchap - that was crazy! I'd be willing to bet you get no apology, either.

GazChap · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:15

Yeah, and it'll be my fault that I'm dead.

If MaliA isn't red, then he must surely be the Green Miscreant.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:24

I'm quite surprised by them lynching you. Also surprised your deputy didn't roleclaim and save you that way. You'd at least have been guaranteed one more investigation.

GazChap · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:27

I didn't want my deputy to roleclaim as it would put him on the chopping block straight away.

True, he might end up dead anyway, but the more investigations he has the more information he can gather - and if he can get it into the public eye subtly all the better.

Although of course, you need to be as subtle as a brick to the face to make people take notice in this game.

sdg · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 13:01

Ah, I'm allowed in here now am I? So annoyed I got killed, I missed the end of day one so read it all back and was really looking forward to day 2 starting. I think Grim might be a baddy.

sdg · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 13:08

Oh for goodness sake. I just read day 2. :facepalm:

I thought Grim was a baddy before you named him Gaz, so how could they have not seen it once you named him as magenta! Idiots. Well, some of them are idiots, some of them are bad. Trooper is striking me as bad.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 17:17

It always bemuses me that the tactical value of a known seroal killer is never used.

sdg · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 17:45

Who was it that killed me then, was it Grim or was it the reds? It sounds like a red kill, but I'd be annoyed if I'd been killed for being quiet when there were way more quiet people than me on day one and I'm historically rather active.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 18:00

Gilly wrote:

Who was it that killed me then, was it Grim or was it the reds? It sounds like a red kill, but I'd be annoyed if I'd been killed for being quiet when there were way more quiet people than me on day one and I'm historically rather active.

It was both of them!

:DD

sdg · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 18:21

I had no chance! That explains why there was only one kill then.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:54

Curiosity wrote:

I'm quite surprised by them lynching you.

I'm not

How come you picked me anyway, GazChap you lucky bast?

Malc · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:58

Probably for the best that I'm out, so busy at work, and home at the moment!

Sorry Gaz, but you were well dodgy!

Malc

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:19

Grim... wrote:

How come you picked me anyway, GazChap you lucky bast?

I was originally going to choose MaliA, as I mentioned in the day 1 thread.

Then, I realised after the day ended that if MaliA was red, there's almost certainly no way he'd make himself look THAT dodgy on day one deliberately. Unless it's part of an elaborate double-bluff, which is risky but entirely plausible - we'll have to wait and see on that one.

So I started scanning day 1 for suspicious activity. Your post about switching if it got closer to night time raised a red flag, but that wasn't enough in and of itself. My deputy then PM'd me and said that he had a feeling you were a bad'un, so that just cemented it really.

In other words - blind luck!

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:18

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:20

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Many LOLs.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:21

hello! Well, that didn't go quite as I planned...

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:24

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

I couldn't say "I'm a blue", as then i'd have been knocked off, sharpish. I wanted to lynch you, partly due to "no lynch" is rubbish, and it was a massive roleclaim, as I tried to explain to the others in the dome. I still contend my decision making was perfect and right.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:25

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Hahahahah!

Why didn't you claim, Mali?

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:26

Grim... wrote:

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Hahahahah!

Why didn't you claim, Mali?

Because the red would have killed me, to get one step closer to the mayor. Now the mayor's killed me, he's one step closer to death.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:27

So rather than maybe die, you went for "certainly die"?

"20, dealer? Hit me!"

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:27

Grim... wrote:

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Hahahahah!

Why didn't you claim, Mali?

Also, it's entirely unverifiable unless the Deputy wants to investigate and then roleclaim.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:28

But he was the deputy, right?

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:31

Grim... wrote:

But he was the deputy, right?

No. Just a regular blue.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:32

Grim... wrote:

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Hahahahah!

Why didn't you claim, Mali?

Also, I tried:

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I'm being left uneccissarily exposed

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I'm being less understandable even

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but let's utilize everyone's

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:33

Curiosity wrote:

Grim... wrote:

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Hahahahah!

Why didn't you claim, Mali?

Also, it's entirely unverifiable unless the Deputy wants to investigate and then roleclaim.

Well, quite, and even though everyone was seemingly happy to take gazChap's word for it ina similar situation, I thought it wouldn't really have worked.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:00

Curiosity wrote:

Grim... wrote:

But he was the deputy, right?

No. Just a regular blue.

Ah. I wasn't aware there was such a thing, I figured all blues were something special.

A plain blue is exactly the same as a green, right?

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:01

MaliA wrote:

Grim... wrote:

GazChap wrote:

WTF. MaliA was BLUE?!

Hahahahah!

Why didn't you claim, Mali?

Also, I tried:

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I'm being left uneccissarily exposed

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I'm being less understandable even

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but let's utilize everyone's

That's a bit subtle. Probably not as subtle as this though:

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I'm not sure that lynching is the best thing to do, really.

As we don't know how many of each colour there are, should we be holding off? Maybe we can get some insight from the first night actions.

The saving grace is that the reds have to be sure before they claim revolution. Hopefully there are a few normal reds to make it unclear. Even just one has the potential to muddy the waters, which would be good, the leader won't want to claim revolution and roleclaim if he could be wrong.

Can I get a clarification rule-wise, though? Obviously the red leader can order a revolutionary to kill, but can he order multiple kills in one night if they have multiple revolutionaries? People are gonna be dropping like flies if that's the case, and if that is the case then maybe lynching is a better ploy.

I assume no-one spotted it, but then maybe that's why there was such a run on me

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:02

MaliA wrote:

Well, quite, and even though everyone was seemingly happy to take gazChap's word for it ina similar situation, I thought it wouldn't really have worked.

Me being dead would seem to make that statement incorrect

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:19

Grim... wrote:

Curiosity wrote:

Grim... wrote:

But he was the deputy, right?

No. Just a regular blue.

Ah. I wasn't aware there was such a thing, I figured all blues were something special.

A plain blue is exactly the same as a green, right?

No. Blues protect the Mayor.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:22

GazChap wrote:

MaliA wrote:

Well, quite, and even though everyone was seemingly happy to take gazChap's word for it ina similar situation, I thought it wouldn't really have worked.

Me being dead would seem to make that statement incorrect

I'm maintaining a decent record, then.

As it was, I hugely enjoyed this game, thanks Curio and supporting cast of people. I figured that if I spoke a lot and tried to do stuff, then great things might happen. only it seemed it was just me and slighlty green arguing for four days about who was who, whilst the REDS voted for me.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3219

Craster. So naughty. Please evict him.

Nice twist with Mali as a standard blue, that should get some talking in the next day.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:22

Curiosity wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Curiosity wrote:

Grim... wrote:

But he was the deputy, right?

No. Just a regular blue.

Ah. I wasn't aware there was such a thing, I figured all blues were something special.

A plain blue is exactly the same as a green, right?

No. Blues protect the Mayor.

I thought that they might have been like a cult and it wasn't really an investagative role at all.

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:36

That's why I was keen on a no lynch, because at the start there were an undisclosed number of reds, blues, greens and magentas in the game.

To my mind, there was/is every possibility that the greens and blues were close to being outnumbered right from the start, which would make it hellishly easy for the reds to win. That's why I wasn't keen on offing someone randomly as if they were green/blue it would further increase the likelihood of them gaining a majority.

But oh well.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:38

I can't think of any situation where a no lynch is preferable to a lynch. It gives the baddies a free hit. So, anyone suggesting it, is probably a baddie, as only they stand to benefit from it.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:48

MaliA wrote:

I can't think of any situation where a no lynch is preferable to a lynch.

I can't think of one where it isn't.

MaliA wrote:

It gives the baddies a free hit.

Killing someone off gives them two.

Everyone moaning about it being the "towns only weapon" is a nob, because the bad guys learn everything they do, and have the huge advantage of knowing more about the roles in the first place. Beside saying hello, dropping some cryptic clues as to your role and talking too much about getting yourself in trouble, first days serve no purpose.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 19:07

Ladies and Gentlemen. One of the worst arguments ever seen. Aside from Peck Roleclaims.

"I am extremely suspicious of Mr Russell not know how the townies work. He would know if he was a townie himself"

Russell may be guilty... but based on that? Really?!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 19:26

Unrelated to above posts, but there is a possibility of one of the greatest Belm moments ever happening in this game.

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 19:26

Sounds promising!

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 21:07

Trooper seems to think I came after him on night one.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 21:22

Grim... wrote:

Trooper seems to think I came after him on night one.

You pervert.

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 21:24

Yeah, they've not even considered the possibility that both you and the reds targeted the same person.

But then, I can't blame them, I mean that would be far too unlikely on day one, wouldn't it? Almost as unlikely as the only decent power-role the good guys have being forced to roleclaim only to then investigate the serial killer on the first night

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 21:25

Neither have they considered the possibility of there being more than one magenta. True, it looks like there isn't, but I'd laugh my socks off if it turned out there is another one and they're just biding their time.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 21:28

Grim... wrote:

Trooper seems to think I came after him on night one.

The kill descriptions were very clear, I thought.

Stabs = Magenta

Paint = Reds

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2012 23:57

Curiosity wrote:

Unrelated to above posts, but there is a possibility of one of the greatest Belm moments ever happening in this game.

Better than Mr Chris's most famous mafia belm Or The Extraordinary effort of Mr Russ?

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14490

DavPaz wrote:

Gosh darnnit. Are we really down to idle speculatio.....

Wait a minute... Gaz was the chief. Malia was a blue. We still have a deputy.

[vote:Mr Russell]

And the person your following the lead on has already claimed as Mayor ?

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 29, 2012 13:18

I'm not mad, KC, merely misunderstood genius.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3219

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it was 1 hour after DP

Ewwwwww.

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