Be Excellent To Each Other

I never do this I still reckon my "free villains outnumber free innocents" thing was a fair question. It was very unlikely to happen, but still.



True, but with 3 killers and possibly 3 arrests, there was just too much carnage on the cards to risk it.



I dunno where you got this idea, to be honest. I didn't see anyone making that mistake, unless I'm being dim?



Seriously? Where?


What I don't understand is why Lex used the green superman on Supes instead of the black. That would have made the game much more complicated


Also: Hello! Damn it, I was so close I dropped enough bloody hints, I was hoping Russ would figure it out and protect me, but there was no way I could convince him without roleclaiming, which I wasn't ready to do. Bah.

Town have been bloody lucky this time again.

I reckon kalmar is Robin (or, in fact, Batman, and Russ is cleverly actually Robin, hence the weird "I can keep protecting myself" thing), and either KovacsC or Gos is our Lex. Probably Kovacs just because nobody countered Gos, but I still think Russ should have arrested instead of investigating, but he probably investigated Gos, in which case we'll know whether his bizarre prancing about the roleclaim stands up. Still, fun times, and congratulations to Lex for winning.

PS: Thanks Craster

Hello! It's quite quiet in here.

Seriously. I was really looking forward to the commentary, too, it's usually great.

Well played, though. You were one of the people who I thought was either Robin or a villain, so didn't want to draw too much attention to.

Oops.

I think Russ knows who the villain is, and is doing a drawing room reveal.

Thank you, you too. I knew you were on the 'town's side, but couldn't decide what your role might be.

Still FOS to anyone who didn't get that from you.

Brilliant posting by Russ there.

Yeah, Jon.J played very well if he's a villain - he seemed have caught on but kept quiet about it. We're about to find out, but if he was, he did very well to keep his cool and not go nuts at me.

SO tempted to post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw before Russ reveals.

I will laugh so hard if after all this it turns out he investigated you!:DD

Oooooh, Robin reveal coming up!

It's going to be Grim posting as Robin, ins't it?. Bastard, I had him pegged as Batman/Robin until last night, when reading back over early days showed that he'd disagreed with Russ quite vocally at one point.

Or it's SG/gaz/Joans... damn it, I was so sure BUT NOW I DO NOT KNOW.

My lawyers will be serving you with breach of contract papers for killing me, boss.

Given how Grim... was certain there was no evil superman on day 2 or so, it's hardly surprising.

I think it has been quiet in here as it seems a fair few people have been busy in real life, but I agree not as much dead thread conversation to read through...

There couldn't have been, though. There were Lex kills every night.

Heh, I do agree it would have been helpful to know who you were, but to be fair, my win condition was EVERYONE dead, so you would have got it in the end anyway.

Also, that would be dismissed by the court of Joker on the grounds that it's quite funny

T'was more in the way he said it.

Welcome Grimothy!

Bloody well played, too. I thought you were a hero person until very late on, and even then I thought you more likely to be Robin than a villain.

Oh man, I had fun with that one. I did feel like Hercule Poirot right at the end there... perhaps hamming it up a bit.

Managed to get both Curiosity and Grim... with investigations though. Curio: I wasted my whole afternoon at work grinning like an idiot when I was pushing for your lynch!

Didn't matter by the time you hit me though - I did the maths and figured out a jailbreak that contained some henchmen was the only hope for team bad, unfortunately they had all belmed themselves to death

How the HELL did you know who alarm was? And why not blackronite him?

I considered it for quite a while, but I simply couldn't see the point in blacking him, as it were. The first thing I'd do the next night would be to kill him, and he'd probably kill me.
How did I know? I got lucky on a geek-out - practically the only Superman thing I saw started with Supey addressing a crowd of people, starting with the words "Hello, fellow citizens of Metropolis".

Knew* who you were too, by the way

I thought Jon.J was the Joker though, and Jazzy an innocent.

*Lucky-guessed

Jasmine I was unsure of until I called her out on being too busy. Probably used meta data a bit there, as even though she doesn't always post a lot, her answers were still too evasive, with no real accusations or trying to work out who anyone else was.

But I was busy. :-S It didn't help really.

I was convinced Joker was going to kill me one night.

And the fact that you gave me the "whyyyyyyyyy"

Haha, that's harsh. Doomed by his first post.

I really had it wrong at the end. You and GJ were my "dangerously quiet, so either robin or evil" people, but I thought it more likely you were robin than villain, so waited for Russ to pipe up. I wouldn't have pegged you without Russ's roleclaim.

I was waiting for the opportunity to use some more famous jailer quotes. I had Cool Hand Luke and the Shawshank Redemption lined up, but you did me in, you swine. Good call though, there really wasn't anything you could do by that point.

What were your hints then? I nearly investigated you instead of kovacs but figured I'd be able to get more info out of you being talkative the next day, whereas kovacs wasn't saying a lot.

Asking to be protected (I really, really thought someone would target me - I was highly voted-for and quite vocal, and this is the first game I've played where somebody didn't try to kill me on night one). Refusing to answer why I wanted protection (bloody lucky the goons couldn't kill in this one, or Craster would probably have done me in), as roleclaiming then would have done no good. Saying "NO TOUCHING" - I think Alarm would recognise that quote

Also hinting that I thought you were investigate-y and would have gone for me by now. I kind of thought you had, but if you hadn't, was sort of inviting it then. Or an arrest, either would have done.

I thought that the way votes for me tailed off after a few days meant that at least one person had tried to arrest or investigate me, but apparently not.

I assumed the no touching thing was from Arrested Development, but didn't twig with it you being as jailor.

My investigate only returned win conditions, so for all I knew anyone innocent could have been a jailor.

All our power roles had a different win condition to the townies, though. We had 'arrest' as a primary and 'kill' as secondary, while townies had just 'arrest or kill'. That's partly why I was pushing for arrests at the end, too.

Wow, that was just a random remark - I didn't even know that was in something Supermanny.

Unless it emerged from my subconscious. It certainly wasn't intentional!

Ouch, double burn then.

Ooh, weird!

Uh - you know you can talk to evil superman once you've turned him, right?

Yup. Can't trust him, though.

I thought Lex would kill me but went for the Jailer instead, which helped us all out

This is a good point actually. Lex is a major threat to Evil Superman, who wants everyone dead, including Lex. There's no real reason for them not to just off each other.

Agreed. Evil Superman's win conditions should mirror those of Lex, or else there's no point (and that could have been a game changer).

Totally agree, that was the one real major screwup I made in the rules

It depends who dies. I mean, if you spend ages crafting a cool character role and they die straight away it can ruin the game.

Eg. If your jailer had been killed on night one you've lost the whole jail concept.

When the random number generator selected Sinister to be the jailor it was certainly a moment, but he did well not to be killed in the first round or so as usual

That's another reason I kept complaining that people were lynching before I could catch up - I was sure every night would be my last

For the record, Russ, I actually did think you might be The Joker, because I was under the impression that Superman's roleblock/protect on me protected me from your investigation.

Which meant you had to have investigated me on Night One, and The Joker could have done that. Unfortunately I couldn't argue this very strongly, as my whole argument was based on me being a baddie!

We probably could have done with a rule clarification there I guess. Still, I did suspect you after the way you went after Gazchap, despite providing little more content yourself. That's why I investigated you when I did.