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Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:38 ]
Post subject:  Day five

Well, it was a crappy night for Kalmar. First, he went along to peer through someone's window, and was shot in the head!
Then he went home, changed into his baby costume to entertain a "special caller", and had his head cut off!
A busy night, I think you'll agree.

Kalmar was a Female Cop.

[playerlist]
Alarm
ApplePieOfDestiny
Curiosity
DavPaz
flis
KovacsC
LaceSensor
Malc
Mr Kissyfur
Runcle
sinister agent
Squirt
Wullie
[/playerlist]

With 13 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 10 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

The day ends at 11am tomorrow (Thursday).

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Not a good night, but at least the SK and Mafia attacked the same person?

What now?

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

[vote:KovacsC]

That's what's next.

Author:  Alarm [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Does this mean that the other cop is the useless cop, or is it not stated until the game is over which cop was the useless cop?

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Curiosity wrote:
[vote:KovacsC]

That's what's next.



Why would you want to do that?

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Stupid lack of ability to edit posts... that was was meant to say 'now', not 'next'.

Bah.

Anyway, the Mafia clearly attempted to recruit a prossie. If anyone gets slept with tonight, be sure to tell everyone so we know there's one more out there.

The questions I have are:

1 - Why did Kalmar suspect Wullie... did he know he was bad?
2 - Did Kalmar only suspect Wullie and go see him last night, meaning Wullie is the gun nut (I thought I had the gun nut sussed... and not as Wullie)?
3 - Who did the Mafia target? Did they manage a conversion?

I would be happy to lynch any of:
Kovacs
Wullie
Sinister Agent
Malc

What say you, townsfolk?

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Looks like Kalmar went calling on the gun nut.

That tells me that he hadn't yet found another Mafia.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I think we can conclude we no longer have a cop. Kalmar can only have spotted The Vision from investigating him which will make him the non-useless cop, and actually, going back to my earlier comments he was maybe a bit too blatant with his reveal that early in the game.

This would support him being both Mafia and SK targeted, although it is possible that one or the other of the bad guys have decided to keep their heads down overnight. For example, we wouldn't necessarily know that the Mafia went whoring. Who else did kalmar finger recently?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

There were no Italian accents last night.

Whoooo-oo-oo.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Kalmar Fingered Wullie then voted for Nik.

So he could ahve investidated last night, but don't kills happen first anyway?

Author:  Alarm [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Grim... wrote:
There were no Italian accents last night.

Whoooo-oo-oo.

So the Mafia didn't target anyone? I wonder why?

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Could it have been either they did not bother or they tried to turn someone to a pro...?

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Alarm wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There were no Italian accents last night.

Whoooo-oo-oo.

So the Mafia didn't target anyone? I wonder why?

They can either kill or recruit a prossie

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

KovacsC wrote:
Kalmar Fingered Wullie then voted for Nik.

So he could ahve investidated last night, but don't kills happen first anyway?

Nope, investigations happen first.

Bus driver -> Doctor Roleblock -> Mafia roleblock -> Investigation -> Kills

Author:  Alarm [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

DavPaz wrote:
Alarm wrote:
Grim... wrote:
There were no Italian accents last night.

Whoooo-oo-oo.

So the Mafia didn't target anyone? I wonder why?

They can either kill or recruit a prossie

Ahh, right, ta. The pigeon is no longer :shrug:

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

DavPaz wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Kalmar Fingered Wullie then voted for Nik.

So he could ahve investidated last night, but don't kills happen first anyway?

Nope, investigations happen first.

Bus driver -> Doctor Roleblock -> Mafia roleblock -> Investigation -> Kills


Yes, but if you investigate then die it does not matter :)

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I'm still massively frustrated by the quiet ones. A 'say nothing, don't be suspected' approach is a pretty boring way of playing, no?

Author:  Alarm [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

BTW, why can't we edit our posts in this section? To make it more like "real life" speech perhaps? :)

Author:  Alarm [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

DavPaz wrote:
I'm still massively frustrated by the quiet ones. A 'say nothing, don't be suspected' approach is a pretty boring way of playing, no?

Indeed. Especially if they are a townie, I'd have thought (but then they would "win" if they survive to the end).

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Alarm wrote:
BTW, why can't we edit our posts in this section? To make it more like "real life" speech perhaps? :)


yes and to stop you delting something incrimnating...

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Alarm wrote:
BTW, why can't we edit our posts in this section? To make it more like "real life" speech perhaps? :)

It's to stop people totally changing time and basically cheating.

Also, to brutally expose some people's poor typing :)

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I can't type.... :(

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

KovacsC wrote:
I can't type.... :(

Because of clean, white, mafia gloves?

HMMM???

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

No I am just a muppet...

Who has been 'too' quiet?

LaceSensor
Malc
Mr Kissyfur
Runcle
sinister agent
Squirt
Wullie

Author:  Alarm [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

DavPaz wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I can't type.... :(

Because of clean, white, mafia gloves?

HMMM???

Or a loonie, using his arse cheeks to type, perhaps?

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

[vote:
LaceSensor
Malc
Mr Kissyfur
Runcle
sinister agent
Squirt
Wullie]

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Alarm wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I'm still massively frustrated by the quiet ones. A 'say nothing, don't be suspected' approach is a pretty boring way of playing, no?

Indeed. Especially if they are a townie, I'd have thought (but then they would "win" if they survive to the end).


If (as a Townie) you survive to the end, but the Mafia win the game, that does not count as a win for you.

Anyone with answers to any of my previously numbered questions?

Also, Kovacs, I voted for you as:
a) a joke
b) you've been acting a little too cluelessly.

(At this point I am sure that the dead thread are laughing at me)

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I did mean to act cluelesly but more to get conversations going.

Author:  Wullie [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Bollocks, I'll no get my answer now :(

In answer to Curio I've no idea why Kalmar was suspicious of me other than I've "not been talking much", but bear in mind that this is a) my first game & b) nobody is talking much.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Wullie wrote:
Bollocks, I'll no get my answer now :(

In answer to Curio I've no idea why Kalmar was suspicious of me other than I've "not been talking much", but bear in mind that this is a) my first game & b) nobody is talking much.


We could Lynch you then you could ask him :)

Author:  Wullie [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

You'd like that wouldn't you? Eh? That would gladden your scummy heart.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Not really, I love all gods creatures... except for the Mafia and the SK :)

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

KovacsC wrote:
Wullie wrote:
Bollocks, I'll no get my answer now :(

In answer to Curio I've no idea why Kalmar was suspicious of me other than I've "not been talking much", but bear in mind that this is a) my first game & b) nobody is talking much.


We could Lynch you then you could ask him :)


:DD

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Ah, screw it.

Were I a Mafia-type, I would have tried to prossie-fy Malc.

[vote:Malc]

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I still think the quite ones must be the SK or Mafia

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Day five
VOTE UPDATE

malc: 1 (Curiosity)

Not voted: 12 (alarm, applepieofdestiny, davpaz, flis, kovacsc, lacesensor, malc, mr kissyfur, runcle, sinister agent, squirt, wullie)

With 13 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 10 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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Author:  Alarm [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Malc has been silent since the shaving, so...

[vote:Malc]

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I am not convinced about Malc not being a Townie...

[vote:Mr Kissyfur] as he is not normally this quiet and he only popped up to lynch Nik.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I think Malc may have been a female townie and is now a whore.

Admittedly, we should perhaps focus on the Mafia Godfather, potential Goon and definite SK instead...

Author:  nickachu [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

:(

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I don't think we can discount that last night went on for quite a while with votes being chased. Notwithstanding the silence from The Bads to avoid suspicion, this potentially means that there was a lot of discussion about what to do by the mafia, or that either the godfather or the serial killer weren't around much since evening fell.

I'm also tired of Runcles excuses for silence [vote:runcle]

Author:  Malc [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Hi!

Sorry, I'm dropping all that man crap now as I really cba!

Yesterday I was going to claim that someone had chopped my bits off and given me false boobs, and today I was going to claim that it was all a dream/nightmare...

But I couldn't as I was working all day yesterday (Real Life intruding on MafiaScum) and did not have time to post.

I did skim read the thread yesterday and was struck by how many people missed that there was still 3 people that were killed "on purpose" I am sure some of them are bad (either the other SK or mafia) trying to jump on something that would help them hide.

The whole thing about the man thing was for 2 main reasons and one backup reason

1) to get the investigator to investigate me (having him and the loony and in the town makes it hard for the mafia to bandwagon)

2) to try and waste a mafia recruitment drive on me

3) if this backfired and someone did target me (or I was lynched) then it would just be a nobody that the town lost and not someone like Kalamamamaamamar

Malc

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Its a good point. Kalmar did say that malc wasn't of interest. However, this comes back to my assertion on the day that we lynched The Vision that Kalmar hadn't had opportunity to investigate two people at that point.

Author:  Malc [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

So,

I've just gone back to check and the three people that didn't pickup on it are:

DavPaz
flis
kalmar

Now I know Kalmar was obviously the police. (which is a big flaw in the plan) but I still think there might be something in this, so

[vote:flis]

Malc

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

This is more like it...

People are talking


Day five
VOTE UPDATE

flis: 1 (Malc)
runcle: 1 (ApplePieOfDestiny)
mr kissyfur: 1 (KovacsC)
malc: 2 (Curiosity, Alarm)

Not voted: 8 (davpaz, flis, lacesensor, mr kissyfur, runcle, sinister agent, squirt, wullie)

With 13 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 10 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Shall we get two people to the brink and pressure then until they crack?

How about Runcle and Mr Kissyfur?

Or ApplePie. Always happy to lynch him.

(I think I may have now cast suspicion on everyone in the town).

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

If Kalamr said that Malc is ok then that would be a wasted lynch.

Quote:
How about Runcle and Mr Kissyfur?


I agree!!

Author:  Wullie [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

Still don't trust ApplePie, he's been fairly quiet/guarded recently too.


But it has to be said that I'm a bit wary of Curiosity after yesterday. "Tell us what you know Kalmar" maybe to assess how much of a threat he might be & then jumping on Kalmar's "bandwagon hunch" tarring everyone who voted after him with the dirty scum brush.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

I've read and reread Malc's post and I still have no idea what he means.

How did I jump on something to hide myself again?

Author:  Malc [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 13:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Day five

DavPaz wrote:
I've read and reread Malc's post and I still have no idea what he means.

How did I jump on something to hide myself again?


You either missunderstood that there were 3 deliberate killings, or you knew there were 3 killings but pretended you didn't.

If it's the latter the only reason I can think of for doing that is because you are the SK or in the mafia, and you were trying to sew confusion and maybe lull us into a false sense of security or something.

I'm not saying you (or indeed flis) is one of these things, just that sometime people with knowledge try and make themselves appear to be ignorant on purpose to prevent speculation on their guilt.

This is what you said:
DavPaz on Day 4 wrote:
Mr Russell killed himself? Or am I (as usual) failing to pick up on hints?


this is what flis said:
Flis on Day4 wrote:
Er....aside from the grossness, wtf?

Joans killed himself (accidentally)
Mr. Russell killed himself
GJ was a mafia hit

Were the first 2 mod killed, Grim...?

Well, at least we're down a SK. Assuming the other 2 died by their own hand, we have one SK who was either roleblocked or chose not to kill, was anyone with the dr. last night?


So you're not as bad as flis, and I think she might be the other SK.

Malc

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