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I can see Malcs point.

If we have another cop left they should investigate Flis, or Davpaz or oneof the quiet ones!!

I don't think we will have many days left..

I can see Malcs point.

If we have another cop left they should investigate Flis, or Davpaz or oneof the quiet ones!!

I don't think we will have many days left..

I also see Malcs point about trying to look ignorant to hide

[vote:malc]

So you think I am playing some sort of elaborate bluff where I explain what I am doing by accusing someone else of doing the same thing?

It's the sort of thing I might do, but I'm not doing it here.

I am a Male townie, and I'm sure we're getting pretty close to the tipping point, so I'd make pretty sure you want me to go before voting for me.

We do have 22 hours (or more likely 4-5 hours today and 2 hours in the morning) before a decision is made, so at least consider that when making your mind up.

Malc

As an admin, I've never minded how much people post. It's up to you.

Interesting. We're potentially nowhere near tipping point. We could have only one Mafia and one SK. They could potentially hit each other on the same night. They could also hit the gun owner which is why I think the Mafia chose to recruit a pro last night rather than kill. They don't know who that is, and at this point they don't want to take the risk - with a prostitute they can send them in to establish whether it is the gun owner before taking a hit. No need to kill the townies off quickly if they don't think they are under suspicion. Hence, I think you argument to 'think hard' is flawed, as we could afford to lose a townie, we caught a break last night in only losing Kalmar.

I simply do not buy the fact that your actions are that of a townie, you've been too high profile throughout the early stages of the game.

They could also hit the gun owner which is why I think the Mafia chose to recruit a pro last night rather than kill. They don't know who that is, and at this point they don't want to take the risk - with a prostitute they can send them in to establish whether it is the gun owner before taking a hit.

Curio, I'd assume I was protected. OR, maybe everyone else assumed I would be protected and didn't waste an action on me. Or maybe Trooper died before he could order a hit on me.

He said he'd made it through the night without being a target because there were 3 deaths on day 3.

The SK is either kovacsc or LaceSensor, has to be. I just can't decide which.

Wullie,

I've already voted for 2 people today... hardly a wallflower, am I?

I can vote for you if you want me to, though.

I just want there to be a lynch today. If there are 3 Mafia left it might get bandwagonned or gain no traction... if there's only 1 or 2 left then even if we go in randomly we've got a bigger upside than downside. With no cop info any more, the ONLY thing we can do is lynch, and it's in our interests to hear as much from as many people as possible in the time we have available.

Flis you are assumign that Kalmar was not the idiot cop..

Runcle, Curio and Riles voted for Malc, this makes me think Malc is the Don and you are a goon and that might be why there was no kill last night, you were supposed to be doing yor masters bidding but were roleblocked.

In which case [vote:malc]

but this phone doesn't have square braces....

Also the town are always at a massive disadvantage to start with, anyway. Still, it's kind of moot now that the Bus Driver is dead. 'tis very unlikely, but what if two kill roles happen to target each other? Would both serial killers end up simultaneously fisting each other to death or whatev...

Oh, and for the record, I'm busy for most of this week and weekend, hence why I didn't sign up for this

Despite this, I would imagine that at least one of the mafia has kept quiet, and will likely continue to do so.

I'm wondering why Thevision voted for Kalmar for two days running.

Voting for one's own is a useful trick for the mafia (chaaaaaains - The ghost of Jacob Gazchap), however doing it consistently seems curious, and doing it that early on seems a needless risk.

On the first day, sure, the mafia may as well vote randomly among the town and see what happens. So voting for your own on day one seems a bad idea. Doing it again the next day seems worse. Especially for the Don.

So. I'm probably risking both my and Kalmar's neck for this, but I'm willing to consider Kalmar innocent. Or at least, not mafia, and prooobably not SK, as they've no reason to be consistent, or even vote this early on. At the risk of sounding like the cop, I strongly advise the doctor to protect him tonight, and keep doing it.

I have a vague hunch that nickachu is the lunatic, too. Sorry if so and this gets you caught - the loony sounds like a fun role to play - but the lunatic causes confusion in the town, which we need to remove. It is largely a hunch, though.

I don't know if this helps us much, but it's about all I can really pick up on.

We're at a point where we're more likely to hit a power role than a bad guy, and most of the power roles are useful. So I'm thinking we need them to stick their necks out a little if they know something, before they get offed. Our best chance is, I think, the cop and gun nut.

Longer term, if a cop finds one of the mafia, I suspect it's worth their roleclaiming if it bags us a bad guy - particularly if the gun nut then roleclaims, because as soon as the mafia are down to one person, the gun nut becomes our hero - nobody can kill them without losing the game. In fact it may even be worth the gun nut coming forward now to prevent the doctor or cop setting them off, as either we have one mafioso left, in which case the nut is laughing, or we have two, in which case taking the nut out will still probably cost them the game. Either way, the scum are only slightly more of a threat than the SKs to us now - one extra vote isn't a major advantage, and if they're too obvious about colluding, they're screwed.

I would probably be planning on recruiting a prostitute tonight if I were the mafia, and leave the SKs to do the killing - a roleblocker would be handy, could be easily replaced, could be used as a canary to root out the gun nut, and could lend them a much needed extra vote.

I'm normally quite anti-roleclaim, especially this early on, but we seem to have a quite unusual situation in that no major power roles are dead, but the mafia are down two, and we face a potential massacre every night. This will probably be the decisive day/night of the game.

None of this really leads me to any conclusions about who is who, unfortunately.

Incidentally, I am a female townie.

[vote: sinister agent]

with FoS at APoD and poss curio too

Malc

So,

I've just gone back to check and the three people that didn't pickup on it are:

DavPaz
flis
kalmar

Now I know Kalmar was obviously the police. (which is a big flaw in the plan) but I still think there might be something in this, so

[vote:flis]

Malc

"When the baddies might have been at their most naive"? Naive? You reckon if I were mafia, I'd be naive?

Not mentioning that the mafia might kill someone means I'm trying to distance myself from them?

Association by disassociation? What? All I said was "I'm busy", which is patently true, and which is the reason I not only didn't sign up for this town, but my opening post pointed this out. Why stick my neck out when we had half a dozen people saying absolutely nothing?

"full of suspicious stuff"? Any particular bit? I don't see how making the insinuation as vague as possible helps your case.

Also:




So you accuse these three people for quite weak reasons, and yet suddenly flip and go for me instead? What?

I don't want to change my vote, Malc, but you're going to have to give me a good reason not to before I go to bed, because you're acting seriously dodgy here.

Oh, also, if you're reading my posts that intently, why didn't you answer when I asked what you were thinking?

And why did you drop the 'acting deliberately weird' act? It's a nice cover story - be the harmless nutter and nobody will suspect you, right?

If you really were trying to get the cop's attention, how does wasting the cop's time help us? And why would the mafia bother trying to recruit when they had a full troupe and nothing to lose by offing people instead?

You didn't bring up your supposed suspicions of me until two days later. Why not? I wasn't even in yesterday's game - you could have voted for me then and got me killed before I even knew what was happening. Why didn't you?

Dodgy. Very dodgy.