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I like to think of it as 3 goodies and 3 baddies.

TFF wanted to off GJ but I said, as a show of good faith, we should team up.

I was visited my Mr Cruise overnight who suggested we off GJ to reduce the number of kill roles, but that it should be done without making the reasoning obvious (?)

FYI that wasn't a Mafia kill last night.

Bobbyaro wrote:

:facepalm:

Yeah, that's a proper :facepalm:

moment. About 30 seconds after I hit the post button, I quite literally facepalmed myself in The Real World.

I'm not sure - sudden honesty on the Mafia side strikes me as odd, so I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's Sat with the double vote.

An known goodie and a known baddie know who I am so they'll confirm I'm town.

I wouldn't be surprised if he would be happy to throw TFF under the bus to save his own - he's just that sort of man.

Sat posted this yesterday:

Quote:

An known goodie and a known baddie know who I am so they'll confirm I'm town.

Which would tally with Mr Dave and Grim... hiding out in the bin.

But TFF would have known his role, they are on the same team!

Also, GJ isn't going to be back to post before evening and I think killing mafia is a good thing.

But TFF would have known his role, they are on the same team!

I mean, look at Myp here. He's low down and dirty. He'll Attack a persons character for the win. You can't vote with a guy like that. Everyone will know. You'll be the person who they associate with him. Your name will be mud on the streets of where you are. People won't look at you in the street. Let's not be that guy, aye?

To be honest, I didn't think you'd post 8 times but if you did I was thinking that you might try and not be investigated but I never thought you'd do it like this: grovelling, blatant and disingenuously, like a snivling scummy toad. Well done. That's quite something.

Now, GJ, why don't you reconsider your position very carefully here:

Scenario A) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role is lynched. You kill a town overnight. The town lynch you tomorrow by majority.

Scenario B) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role is lynched. You are prevented from killing. The town lynch you tomorrow by a greater majority.

Scenario C) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. Mafia kill you. You dead, homie. Town win.

Scenario D - The Gamble) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. We kill town. We vote you dead and kill town and win.

Scenario E - The Gamble Part 2) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. We kill town. You vote us dead and kill town and win.

Scenario F) I'm bored now...

... anyway, the only way to safely win is to vote with the Mafia today. We got the combined votes to do this. You get the kill role killed and you're dead for sure tomorrow. Game over, man.

They know who you are. You can't hide under the radar. You need to do the math here. Law of averages. Percentages and risk strategy. Do the risk assessment. You know voting with the town is a greater percentage of death for you. Today. No more chances. Today is your make or break day. You could lose this today.

Unless you vote with the Mafia. The real good guys.

I mean, look at Myp here. He's low down and dirty. He'll Attack a persons character for the win. You can't vote with a guy like that. Everyone will know. You'll be the person who they associate with him. Your name will be mud on the streets of where you are. People won't look at you in the street. Let's not be that guy, aye?

A vote for Mafia (and Gazchap) is a vote for decency.

The Doctor: Future Warrior
Mr Dave: Bobbyaro
The Bin: Saturnalian/TFF
Psychic Steve: GazChap
Bored political election fraudster: TFF/Saturnalian
Alf: GJ

A detective serial killer? What a curve ball.

Author:	Trooper [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 22:52 ]
Post subject:	LazyScum Day 4
Mr Dave is found hanging from a tree, his guts hanging out and wild animals feasting on them. Messy again. Mr Dave was Tom Cruise and he was a townie! Roles in play: Grim… Allegiance: Mafia Character name: King Decisive of Chooselands Description: Grovel before the regal King Decisive, he who knows his shit! Regale yourself with his tales of justice! Interest yourself with further tales of his majesty! Mutter an excuse under your breath and wander off, because he's not going to stop talking. Night power (if any): King Decisive can use his special truth-o-vision to get one fact that someone posted in the previous day confirmed or denied by the GM. If the person posting doesn't actually know the answer (because they were lying, or something) then KD gets jack. Passive ability (if any): If the day ends in a draw, whoever King Decisive voted for will be lynched. He's the fucking king, after all. Additional characteristics (if any): King Decisive must vote once per game day, and only once per day (within reason - if a day times out real quick and he misses it without posting at all, I guess that can't be helped. Also if there's a typo or something he gets to correct it. Also if the person dies during the day he gets to revote, I guess). Also, unsurprisingly, he's going to be quite eager to FUCK GAZCHAP UP. Zaphod79 Allegiance: Mafia Character name: Robert Description: Just looks like any normal person Night power (if any): Random defense If targeted take a list of all the night actions available in the current game and have a random action occur against the person who targeted them This will all be displayed in the rules thread for everyone to see. In addition to that, you can also send me: Passive ability (if any): If targeted overnight knows the name of the character (or player - i could see both being interesting but it should be one or the other) who that person targeted for the previous* night Additional characteristics (if any): I was going to name the character Random Dent (Arthur Dents daughter) but thought that might be a bit of a giveaway so lets just leave this blank at the moment. DavPaz Allegiance: Town Character name: Hollis Hampson Description: Hollis worries a lot and is always late. Think of Hollis as the White Rabbit in Wonderland. Despite the neuroses, Hollis is a bright enough sort and will always try and make the right decision. Passive ability (if any): Hollis is always late because he doesn't live in Town, he commutes. This make him immune to non-lethal night actions. Additional characteristics (if any): Hollis can't vote until almost at the last minute, due to his worrisome nature. He will not vote until a player is within 2 votes of being lynched. Character name: The Doctor Description: renegade Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey Night power (if any): can choose to protect someone overnight. Character name: Psychic Steve Description: Born with an incredible gift, Psychic Steve can read minds simply by thinking about that person. He's often considered applying for the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, but thinks it would be a churlish use of his power so ekes out a meagre living in this tiny village, providing travelling clairvoyancy services. Night power (if any): Can read a person's mind and find out their allegiance - not just Good/Bad, but specifics. He can only read a person's mind once, though Character name: Bin Characteristics: You're a bin. Night Power: If anyone discovers who you are then they can substitute their overnight power to pop inside amongst the garbage and hide out. Character name: Mr Dave Abilities: His analytical mind means that he can perceive patterns and movements in the nuances and movements of people; he can investigate any one person who has made more than 8 posts in a single day - this can occur at any time. Character name: Bored political election fraudster You are a bored political election fraudster without a current campaign to work on. In order to while away the time at work, you have created a way to trick the voting system for upcoming elections and are able to double vote on any and all lynches. You may cast a single vote, but it has the weight of two votes. If this is done, the moderator will only explicitly list the vote once, but it will count twice. Cras Allegiance: Neutral Character name: Princess Sparklebum Description: The youngest daughter of the King of the pixie folk, Princess Sparklebum is a flying joy-machine bringing laughter, happiness, and rainbows to everyone she meets. Night power (if any): Princess Sparklebum can shower a player with kittens and unicorns and thoughts of wonderous giggledust, leaving them unable to do anything in the night phase. Passive ability (if any): Additional characteristics (if any): Princess Sparklebum is the youngest daughter. She'll never be in charge, and that properly pisses her off. As a result, while she probably could bring joy and wonder to everyone she meets, instead she doesn't. Her night ability could block someone's night action with thoughts of kittens and unicorns, but what's the fun in that? Instead she can manipulate her target's night action into doing the exact opposite of what it should. A doctor might kill their patient, or an investigation might return the wrong result or even out the investigated party to the world (I'll leave the specifics up to the boss man ) Win condition should be Town in the public thread, but secretly neutral. Princess Sparklebum wins if she survives to the end of the game. Investigations will reveal her true alignment. Basically NIGHTCUNT mark II Mr Dave Allegiance: Town Name: Tom Cruise Description: Stuck in a closet with R Kelly. Not in a cult, Absolutely, completely, one hundred percent NOT in a cult. Don't even mention cults around him. Night action (Public): During the night, he can go to a persons house if they're in and have a chat about things completely unrelated to cults. Night action (Private): During the night he can go round and have a 'chat'. By 'Chat' I mean he goes round in a gimp mask, strips naked and dances round their house, right in their face such that they notice if they are in and writes a message on their walls in some dubious substance before escaping into the night. If roleblocked in some form, proactive or protective, the blocker gets subjected to the same dance instead but no message is given. Passive ability: Due to being an absolute fruitcake, he's willing to join up to any 'organisation' no matter how absurd. Should he become aware of such an organisation, he rushes in, throws all his money at them and signs up to all their ideals. Naked. The mechanics of this: Naturally there may not be another group, be it cult, zombie, mason or whatever, but no-matter. If someone dies in such a group, proving its existence, he joins up (even if it leaves him the only member, because... fruitcake). If someone somehow claims* to be in some group, regardless of whether they're bullshitting an existing group or have just made up said group he still joins the person doing the bullshitting in the guise of said group(They can then decide on a new win condition for the daft, ridiculous man and communicate with him. The win condition can't be mafia or pure town.) When he joins, one member is put in contact with him with sign ups and the like. They tell him whatever details they like about his new life. Once one 'group' has been joined, he stays loyal to that group regardless of anything. * - It's obviously up to you to decide what constitutes a claim, but he's desperate to join up to whatever nut jobs he can, so it doesn't take much of a hint to get him signing up. Curiosity Allegiance: Town Role - Cedrick smythsonian Abilities - none History - former army chaplain. Struggles with concept of not being violent. Passive ability - if targeted at night, he will punch out whoever is near him. Any non-lethal action aimed at him fails and he knows who has targeted him but not what their action was. The person doing the targeting knows that they got knocked out and failed in their mission. Character name: Alf Role: Detective More details will be revealed as people get killed (assuming there is a kill ability in the game…) [playerlist] Bobbyaro Future Warrior GazChap Goddess Jasmine Saturnalian TheFireFaerie [/playerlist] Day 4 ends Friday at 9pm. http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/ With 6 people alive, 4 votes are needed for a lynch. Can a mod do the dead thread thing please.

Author:	Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 23:26 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Yo. Dead thread.

Author:	GazChap [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 23:29 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
2 Mafia, 1 neutral. GJ is neutral. I was visited my Mr Cruise overnight who suggested we off GJ to reduce the number of kill roles, but that it should be done without making the reasoning obvious (?) What's the plan then?

Author:	Satsuma [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 23:35 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
I like to think of it as 3 goodies and 3 baddies. TFF wanted to off GJ but I said, as a show of good faith, we should team up.

Author:	GazChap [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 23:45 ]
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Saturnalian wrote: I like to think of it as 3 goodies and 3 baddies. TFF wanted to off GJ but I said, as a show of good faith, we should team up. I don't think GJ would go for that, let's face it - you'd off her the first chance you got to secure the win. I say we get rid of you filthy Mafia types, you'd stab your own mothers in the back for a nickel and dime. Or something. [vote:Saturnalian]

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Author:	Satsuma [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 23:52 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
GJ can't win without us and we can't win without her. If she votes with the Mafia then we, the Mafia, here so solemnly swear to enter into a mutually beneficial agreement to not use our overnight powers against each other to wipe out these filthy town. Our win condition is all "town" dead. I imagine hers is too. It's not "everyone" dead. GJ, if you vote to kill GazChap today, we, the Mafia, will do this so both of us can win this. [vote: Gazchap] GJ, the ball, is in your court. You know I'm right.

Author:	GazChap [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 23:56 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
I would think her win condition is precisely that everyone has to be dead.

Author:	Satsuma [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 23:59 ]
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That'd be absurdly difficult. Town Dead will be the win condition like the Mafia.

Author:	Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:59 ]
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I think I've shown where my loyalties lie. [vote:Saturnalian]

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:33 ]
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You've just sealed your own death warrant. TFF has the double vote so we could still get majority. Also, town, if you vote me off today none of you will be able to get inside me for safety from, you guessed it, GJ.

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:14 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Well - wait, new teeth. That's weird. This is just brilliant, isn't it? A stalemate! I love a good old stalemate. Always remind me of Rome for some reason. Except of course, I could just do this. [vote:Saturnalian] grins

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
no, if Sat is the bin, shouldn't we voting for TFF as she has a double vote - obviously if that is true. Also: GazChap wrote: I was visited my Mr Cruise overnight who suggested we off GJ to reduce the number of kill roles, but that it should be done without making the reasoning obvious (?) also also, Mr Dave's role! Also also also, I thought I was dead for a second reading the day starting!

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:25 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
FYI that wasn't a Mafia kill last night.

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:29 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Saturnalian wrote: FYI that wasn't a Mafia kill last night. No, because you tried to kill our little mate GazChap, didn't you? I put a stop to that, although it hurt a bit. I'm all better now though - you can't keep a good Doctor down! runs hands through new hair

Author:	Mr Dave [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:41 ]
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Mr Dave wrote: Yo. Dead thread. Wooooooooooooo

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:46 ]
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So are we convinced TFF has the double vote? I'm not. It's probably Sat.

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:54 ]
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I'm a bin.

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:01 ]
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Saturnalian wrote: I'm a bin. So why tell us TFF has the double vote then? That makes no sense, matey. Unless it's a double-bluff - I hadn't thought of that. I'm so stupid stupid stupid sometimes!

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:12 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote: :facepalm: Yeah, that's a proper moment. About 30 seconds after I hit the post button, I quite literally facepalmed myself in The Real World. I'm not sure - sudden honesty on the Mafia side strikes me as odd, so I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's Sat with the double vote.

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:17 ]
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GazChap wrote: Bobbyaro wrote: :facepalm: Yeah, that's a proper moment. About 30 seconds after I hit the post button, I quite literally facepalmed myself in The Real World. I'm not sure - sudden honesty on the Mafia side strikes me as odd, so I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's Sat with the double vote. But did we have anyone confirm that he was the Bin? If so, he probably doesn't have the double vote. I wouldn't be surprised if he would be happy to throw TFF under the bus to save his own - he's just that sort of man.

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:22 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Sat posted this yesterday: Quote: An known goodie and a known baddie know who I am so they'll confirm I'm town. Which would tally with Mr Dave and Grim... hiding out in the bin.

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
[vote:thefirefaerie]

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Future Warrior wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if he would be happy to throw TFF under the bus to save his own - he's just that sort of man. Awwww, come on, man, that really hurt. It's only a game. Uncool.

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:24 ]
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GazChap wrote: Sat posted this yesterday: Quote: An known goodie and a known baddie know who I am so they'll confirm I'm town. Which would tally with Mr Dave and Grim... hiding out in the bin. See? I wouldn't lie to you guys. You're my friends.

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:26 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
[vote:thefirefaerie]

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:28 ]
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Hang on though - shortly after he posted that, TFF chimed in with "Err... Bin roleclaim?!" so there's a possibility it was a diversion tactic.

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:30 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
But TFF would have known his role, they are on the same team! Also, GJ isn't going to be back to post before evening and I think killing mafia is a good thing.

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:31 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Bobbyaro wrote: But TFF would have known his role, they are on the same team! Also, GJ isn't going to be back to post before evening and I think killing mafia is a good thing. edit, that makes no sense, the second part was in refernce to, "should we kill sat and be done with it?"

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:34 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Might as well wait until lunch - she may be back then.

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:41 ]
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Now, GJ, why don't you reconsider your position very carefully here: Scenario A) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role is lynched. You kill a town overnight. The town lynch you tomorrow by majority. Scenario B) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role is lynched. You are prevented from killing. The town lynch you tomorrow by a greater majority. Scenario C) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. Mafia kill you. You dead, homie. Town win. Scenario D - The Gamble) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. We kill town. We vote you dead and kill town and win. Scenario E - The Gamble Part 2) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. We kill town. You vote us dead and kill town and win. Scenario F) I'm bored now... ... anyway, the only way to safely win is to vote with the Mafia today. We got the combined votes to do this. You get the kill role killed and you're dead for sure tomorrow. Game over, man. They know who you are. You can't hide under the radar. You need to do the math here. Law of averages. Percentages and risk strategy. Do the risk assessment. You know voting with the town is a greater percentage of death for you. Today. No more chances. Today is your make or break day. You could lose this today. Unless you vote with the Mafia. The real good guys. I mean, look at Myp here. He's low down and dirty. He'll Attack a persons character for the win. You can't vote with a guy like that. Everyone will know. You'll be the person who they associate with him. Your name will be mud on the streets of where you are. People won't look at you in the street. Let's not be that guy, aye? A vote for Mafia (and Gazchap) is a vote for decency.

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:46 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Bobbyaro wrote: But TFF would have known his role, they are on the same team! That's what I mean. Between them they may have started sowing the seeds of a double-bluff thinking that it would come down to this and that they'd be better off keeping the double-vote in play. Perhaps I'm looking into it too deeply.

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:48 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Saturnalian wrote: I mean, look at Myp here. He's low down and dirty. He'll Attack a persons character for the win. You can't vote with a guy like that. Everyone will know. You'll be the person who they associate with him. Your name will be mud on the streets of where you are. People won't look at you in the street. Let's not be that guy, aye? Saturnalian wrote: To be honest, I didn't think you'd post 8 times but if you did I was thinking that you might try and not be investigated but I never thought you'd do it like this: grovelling, blatant and disingenuously, like a snivling scummy toad. Well done. That's quite something.

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:51 ]
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Look what he's doing GJ! He's trying to use my own words against me. Thing is, Grim... made me write that. He sent it to me on a PM and told me to do it. I'm really sorry. Those aren't my words. Grim...'s words, init. He was a bad un. Just like Myp. That's why I voted Grim... and TFF. They're both bad eggs. Let's run away together.

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:52 ]
Post subject:	Re: LazyScum Day 4
Saturnalian wrote: Now, GJ, why don't you reconsider your position very carefully here: Scenario A) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role is lynched. You kill a town overnight. The town lynch you tomorrow by majority. Scenario B) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role is lynched. You are prevented from killing. The town lynch you tomorrow by a greater majority. Scenario C) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. Mafia kill you. You dead, homie. Town win. Scenario D - The Gamble) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. We kill town. We vote you dead and kill town and win. Scenario E - The Gamble Part 2) Mafia is lynched today. The kill role survives. You kill town. We kill town. You vote us dead and kill town and win. Scenario F) I'm bored now... ... anyway, the only way to safely win is to vote with the Mafia today. We got the combined votes to do this. You get the kill role killed and you're dead for sure tomorrow. Game over, man. They know who you are. You can't hide under the radar. You need to do the math here. Law of averages. Percentages and risk strategy. Do the risk assessment. You know voting with the town is a greater percentage of death for you. Today. No more chances. Today is your make or break day. You could lose this today. Unless you vote with the Mafia. The real good guys. I mean, look at Myp here. He's low down and dirty. He'll Attack a persons character for the win. You can't vote with a guy like that. Everyone will know. You'll be the person who they associate with him. Your name will be mud on the streets of where you are. People won't look at you in the street. Let's not be that guy, aye? A vote for Mafia (and Gazchap) is a vote for decency. Don't forget this post GJ! It's very important.