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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 22:44 
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Who are the quiet ones?

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[saturnalian] => 7
[thefirefaerie] => 7
[bobbyaro] => 7
[grim...] => 5
[trooper] => 1

Just look at Sat, Grim... and TFF just sat there...

I'm not convinced I'm going to get investigated again.

Jazzy is the serial killer, by the way.

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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
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[goddess jasmine] => 9
[saturnalian] => 7
[thefirefaerie] => 7
[bobbyaro] => 7
[grim...] => 5
[trooper] => 1

Just look at Sat, Grim... and TFF just sat there...

I'm not convinced I'm going to get investigated again.

Jazzy is the serial killer, by the way.

I wouldn't have expected you to either. Not sure why you think I'm the serial killer though.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Maybe 'Mr Dave' could investigate Sat, then we would have the trifecta. We could lynch him tonight (once confirmed), get Grim... tomorrow and hope the SK helps us out tonight.

BTW, I'm happy to be investigated to be a confirmed townie, I just don't want the investigate to go to waste when we could confirm a mafia. I'm sure that 'Mr Dave' will do what he thinks is best though. We get valuable info either way.


To be honest, I didn't think you'd post 8 times but if you did I was thinking that you might try and not be investigated but I never thought you'd do it like this: grovelling, blatant and disingenuously, like a snivling scummy toad. Well done. That's quite something.

*applauds*

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No. If you think Grim... is bad, that's the route to go, lynch the guy with 2 votes. 2 kills overnight move the town out of a winnable position if he's bad.

I'm still waiting on a TFF reply.

I'm not sure I understand what difference it makes which bad guy we hit. I don't have a preference, just trying to make sense of your post.

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Not sure why you think I'm the serial killer though.

Cos I'm clever, innit.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Well, unless you hit the kill role.

Do you mean the killing Mafia? Could have been Grim... But he was in the bin last night, so it works out.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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[vote:Goddess Jasmine] cause I reckon she's the killer. AT WORST she's Mafia. So it's Win/Win all round.


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Unless Mr Dave (no, that one) has a plan cause he has does the math so we don't have to. Obv.


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Saturnalian wrote:
Unless Mr Dave (no, that one) has a plan cause he has does the math so we don't have to. Obv.

My plan is to wait for TFF to post the answer to my question. Chances are it won't change anything, and I revote for Grim...
If she posts something very specific, I expand on hypothesis #2 and see what people think.


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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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[vote:Goddess Jasmine] cause I reckon she's the killer. AT WORST she's Mafia. So it's Win/Win all round.

Do you really think I'd be so vocal if I were either of those?

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Unless Mr Dave (no, that one) has a plan cause he has does the math so we don't have to. Obv.

My plan is to wait for TFF to post the answer to my question. Chances are it won't change anything, and I revote for Grim...
If she posts something very specific, I expand on hypothesis #2 and see what people think.

Sounds fair. Just don't leave it too long so we get chance to get our votes in before 9pm. :)

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Right, I'm off to be 'insanely quiet' again. Hope you learn lots today and I'll be back later on.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Quote:
[future warrior] => 22
[goddess jasmine] => 22
[gazchap] => 17
[mr dave] => 16
[saturnalian] => 12
[grim...] => 8
[bobbyaro] => 7
[thefirefaerie] => 7
[trooper] => 1


[future warrior] - investigated (twice): town x2
[goddess jasmine] -??
[gazchap] - not investigated, but most likely town
[mr dave] - not investigated, but seems to be town
[saturnalian] - not investigated, but seems to be trying to obfuscate, has supported two people on my FOS list, one who is Grim....
[grim...] - investigated - mafia, but appears to have changed sides at least once.
[thefirefaerie] - if not mafia is a mad person.

So, thoughts people? Who should GC and I investigate?

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Jazzy and Sat are the ones we seem to know least about, so I would suggest those two.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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fair enough, I'll investigate Sat then, gaz can do GJ.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Lucky Gaz.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Well, Sat is confirmed Mafia as well, as suspected.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Grim.. appears to have the kill role as he hid in a bin and there was no kill, so [vote:grim...].
TFF and Sat the other two mafia.

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Sat, Grim... and TFF for Mafia, then. GJ for SK.


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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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Sat, Grim... and TFF for Mafia, then. GJ for SK.

Yeah, ok.
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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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So we're kind of stuck now.

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I'll investigate GJ, then. I imagine I won't be around tomorrow to tell you the result.


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Well, if what we suspect about Grim... is true, if GJ wants to survive, she has to vote for him, otherwise Grim...'s power will lynch her instead.


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So we're kind of stuck now.

Yeah. For a game to seem unwinnable on day 3 with only 2 town deaths and 2 bad guy deaths is... shall we say disappointing if true.


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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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If GJ is the SK, I would hope she'll switch to Grim... before timeout to get him out of the way.

If his passive ability is what I think it is - that being that in the event of a nolynch, he fixes the election and ensures that whoever he's voting for is lynched - then Jazzy is dead if the day times out.


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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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GazChap wrote:
I'll investigate GJ, then. I imagine I won't be around tomorrow to tell you the result.

Yeah you will, don't worry.

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GazChap wrote:
If his passive ability is what I think it is - that being that in the event of a nolynch, he fixes the election and ensures that whoever he's voting for is lynched

Nah.

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 Post subject: Re: LazyScum Day 3
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saturnalian: 1 (Goddess Jasmine)
goddess jasmine: 2 (Grim..., Saturnalian)
grim...: 4 (GazChap, Future Warrior, Bobbyaro, Mr Dave)

Not voted: 1 (thefirefaerie)

With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 5 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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Here's a thought - could we four townies switch to Sat instead?

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If Grim... does have the Mafia kill role, then that'll take it down to 2 mafia, 3 townies, 1 (presumed) serial killer.

We'd then be rather reliant on the SK knocking off a Mafia type.

Worth a shot though, perhaps?


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Why are we thinking I had the kill role?

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If his passive ability is what I think it is - that being that in the event of a nolynch, he fixes the election and ensures that whoever he's voting for is lynched

Nah.

What is it then?

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Well, if what we suspect about Grim... is true, if GJ wants to survive, she has to vote for him, otherwise Grim...'s power will lynch her instead.

Suspect? I thought he was a confirmed bad guy?

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Why are we thinking I had the kill role?

Because you claimed to be in the bin the night there was no Mafia kill.

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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
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Well, if what we suspect about Grim... is true, if GJ wants to survive, she has to vote for him, otherwise Grim...'s power will lynch her instead.

Suspect? I thought he was a confirmed bad guy?

Specifically his passive ability to dick about with the lynch results - not necessarily him being a Mafia guy, which he so is.


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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
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Why are we thinking I had the kill role?

Because you claimed to be in the bin the night there was no Mafia kill.

Sadly, I wasn't alone.

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Alright Jazzy, here's an offer - I can't actually kill people (yet) - the Maf have a chain of command and the highest has the gun.

You're the SK - you know this, and the town will know it soon. If we vote the town off, and then vote the rest of the Mafia (except for me) off, we can kill each other on the final night and both be winners.

Otherwise you're done.

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We're done. That's the only way I can think of where the town doesn't win.

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Fuck, that's enormous.

Permission to edit that post, boss?

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Or Jazzy can kill us herself and win outright.

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Grim... wrote:
Alright Jazzy, here's an offer - I can't actually kill people (yet) - the Maf have a chain of command and the highest has the gun.

You're the SK - you know this, and the town will know it soon. If we vote the town off, and then vote the rest of the Mafia (except for me) off, we can kill each other on the final night and both be winners.

Otherwise you're done.


Except, of course, you can't talk for what the people above you will do, and she's your only block to vicotry, not the town, so it's a death sentence for her.

If she's clever, she can figure out what to do to stand a chance. But it's not killing the people who can't directly kill her.


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Fuck, that's enormous.

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OR you can all stop believing I'm the serial killer because Grim..., a now self confessed Mafia told you I am!

Frankly, I'm looking forward to Gaz doing me tonight. :P

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That's it. Day over.

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VOTE UPDATE

goddess jasmine: 2 (Grim..., Saturnalian)
grim...: 5 (Goddess Jasmine, GazChap, Future Warrior, Bobbyaro, Mr Dave)

Not voted: 1 (thefirefaerie)

With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 5 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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Grim... wrote:
Why are we thinking I had the kill role?

Because you claimed to be in the bin the night there was no Mafia kill.

Sadly, I wasn't alone.

Yeah, bet you liked spending a night in a cramped bin with a naked man in a gimp mask.


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Grim... is lynched, you won't be surprised to find out he was Mafia, I suspect...

Grim…
Allegiance: Mafia
Character name: King Decisive of Chooselands

Description: Grovel before the regal King Decisive, he who knows his shit! Regale yourself with his tales of justice! Interest yourself with further tales of his majesty! Mutter an excuse under your breath and wander off, because he's not going to stop talking.

Night power (if any): King Decisive can use his special truth-o-vision to get one fact that someone posted in the previous day confirmed or denied by the GM. If the person posting doesn't actually know the answer (because they were lying, or something) then KD gets jack*.

Passive ability (if any): If the day ends in a draw, whoever King Decisive voted for will be lynched. He's the fucking king, after all.

Additional characteristics (if any): King Decisive must vote once per game day, and only once per day (within reason - if a day times out real quick and he misses it without posting at all, I guess that can't be helped. Also if there's a typo or something he gets to correct it. Also if the person dies during the day he gets to revote, I guess). Also, unsurprisingly, he's going to be quite eager to FUCK GAZCHAP UP.


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