Cras wrote:
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| Author: | TheFireFaerie [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Cras wrote: Four posts! Just to annoy anyone who might have email notifications turned on Ass. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
What? You nutter. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
zaphod79 wrote: Gazchaps phrasing is slightly odd on sides which has been pointed out and is the only reason i'm going for him - if someone can come up with an alternative then speak up (Gaz?) Well, I know who I'm going to investigate tonight - although obviously I'm not going to say who in case the roleblocker/protector is working with them. In what way was my phrasing odd? |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
zaphod79 wrote: I'm just not sure on who :-) [vote:gazchap] This line of thought always bemuses me: Theres someone who is likely a somewhat overpowered role for the town, less so for the mafia. Lets lynch him to find out on frankly strange reasoning. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Good work on driving that lynch forward before the deadline guys. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Cras wrote: Good work on driving that lynch forward before the deadline guys. We need more people to vote. Vote for Future Warrior! Or GJ. She's always evil. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
I'd potentially join a Gazchap lynch Cras wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Gazchaps phrasing is slightly odd on sides which has been pointed out and is the only reason i'm going for him - if someone can come up with an alternative then speak up (Gaz?) If there is a cult leader, then it's Gaz. Him putting himself out there right away is very bold, but it's a fantastic move for a cult leader. Buys himself a bit of time because he makes the town think he's useful, gets a likely overnight doctor protection, and tells everyone that there's no cult. So for people thinking we should be lynching because there's a cult, the only person that can reasonably be a cultist is Gazchap, so do we lynch? |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Curiosity wrote: Vote for Future Warrior! You want to vote for me even though I'm town? That's pretty scummy. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Although Gazchap did outright say 'I am town' which would be pretty dumb if he were a cultist. |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
TheFireFaerie wrote: Whether roles have been assigned randomly or not, I think it's highly unlikely that all 4 investigators would be pro-town. If an anti-town role is also an investigator role, do we think that makes their kill role (if they have one) null and void? i.e. would, say, an SK investigator role be allowed to investigate OR kill, or both? Hmm. Err, I am a bit confused by this, as a townie, I know that the roles [sides] were handed out randomly; the only way I can conceive that someone would not know this is if they had a role that meant it had to be assigned a certain side. It is highly unlikely that that would be a town role, and most likely it is some sort of SK role. A role you then go on to mention in a vaguely obfuscating way. [vote:TheFireFaerie] |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
I'm pretty sure that was a reference to the previous discussion about who would get assigned kill roles. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Cras wrote: I'd potentially join a Gazchap lynch Cras wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Gazchaps phrasing is slightly odd on sides which has been pointed out and is the only reason i'm going for him - if someone can come up with an alternative then speak up (Gaz?) If there is a cult leader, then it's Gaz. Him putting himself out there right away is very bold, but it's a fantastic move for a cult leader. Buys himself a bit of time because he makes the town think he's useful, gets a likely overnight doctor protection, and tells everyone that there's no cult. So for people thinking we should be lynching because there's a cult, the only person that can reasonably be a cultist is Gazchap, so do we lynch? But but but... the primary reason we think there may be a cult is Tom Cruise. And he can't be both and noones counterclaimed his stated role. |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
No, that was mentioned afterwards. (also, I didn't read the sign up thread, so didn't know that!  )
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
@Cras. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Also, how would you know whether it was random or whether trooper picked who was in which faction? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Mr Dave wrote: But but but... the primary reason we think there may be a cult is Tom Cruise. And he can't be both and noones counterclaimed his stated role. OK. Gazchap said there is no cult faction. This means one of two things 1) Gazchap is lying. It would make utterly no sense for the mafia to pretend there is no cult, so he's not mafia. Ergo Gazchap is the cult leader 2) There is no cult. Either way, Tom Cruise is not a cult leader. Tom Cruise is an idiot, because he's the only role in the game that makes themselves look guilty if they roleclaim, but not a cult leader. Presumably a roleblocker. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
3) GazChap has been mislead. We can't really assume anything at all at this point. And for all we know, Tom Cruise is a lunatic role. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 13:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Cras wrote: Mr Dave wrote: But but but... the primary reason we think there may be a cult is Tom Cruise. And he can't be both and noones counterclaimed his stated role. OK. Gazchap said there is no cult faction. This means one of two things 1) Gazchap is lying. It would make utterly no sense for the mafia to pretend there is no cult, so he's not mafia. Ergo Gazchap is the cult leader 2) There is no cult. Either way, Tom Cruise is not a cult leader. Tom Cruise is an idiot, because he's the only role in the game that makes themselves look guilty if they roleclaim, but not a cult leader. Presumably a roleblocker. If 1, Gaz gets imediately outed the moment a minion is killed. Pretty stupid for a cult leader. So not 1. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 14:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
What if the Mafia are effectively the cult in this game? Unless I've missed something there's nothing in the roles about anyone having a kill role - although Cedric Smythsonian's role description sounds a bit SK-like to me. Perhaps the Mafia's goal in this game isn't to kill everyone, but to recruit everyone into the Mafia? Or get a majority? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 14:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Trooper said that nobody was allowed to put a kill role in their role description, he would tell people if they had a kill. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 14:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
This is Trooper though, so who knows what he's planned/is planning
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 14:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
GazChap wrote: What if the Mafia are effectively the cult in this game? Unless I've missed something there's nothing in the roles about anyone having a kill role Theres also nothing in the rules about a recruit role. A 3 person cult would be seriously overpowered. |
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| Author: | TheFireFaerie [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 14:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Cras wrote: I'm pretty sure that was a reference to the previous discussion about who would get assigned kill roles. Yeah, it was, because someone else mentioned that point /much/ earlier |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 15:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Mr Dave wrote: GazChap wrote: What if the Mafia are effectively the cult in this game? Unless I've missed something there's nothing in the roles about anyone having a kill role Theres also nothing in the rules about a recruit role. A 3 person cult would be seriously overpowered. True. Would it be overpowered, though? Would it make much practical difference if the Mafia were gaining their majority by converting townies rather than killing them off? Gaining a vote majority would be easier but this wouldn't really be any different to killing them off. I suppose the advantage would be the Mafia being able to gain the usage of any of the night actions, but the only one that would be of much use to them is the roleblocker - unless Doctor protection protects against investigations also, which seems unlikely. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 15:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
gazchap: 1 (zaphod79) thefirefaerie: 1 (Bobbyaro) cras: 1 (Grim...) future warrior: 1 (Curiosity) nolynch: 4 (Cras, Future Warrior, Mr Dave, DavPaz) Not voted: 4 (gazchap, goddess jasmine, saturnalian, thefirefaerie) With 12 players alive, 7 votes are required for a lynch, and 7 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody. http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 15:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LazyScum2 Day 1 |
Day has timed out, well done people on not lynching a good guy! Poor show in not lynching a bad guy! Night actions to me by.......... ...... ..... wait a second.... Why are you dragging Cras to the lynching tree? But you didn't give a majority vote! Cras has been lynched. Cras Allegiance: Neutral Character name: Princess Sparklebum Description: The youngest daughter of the King of the pixie folk, Princess Sparklebum is a flying joy-machine bringing laughter, happiness, and rainbows to everyone she meets. Night power (if any): Princess Sparklebum can shower a player with kittens and unicorns and thoughts of wonderous giggledust, leaving them unable to do anything in the night phase. Passive ability (if any): Additional characteristics (if any): Princess Sparklebum is the youngest daughter. She'll never be in charge, and that properly pisses her off. As a result, while she probably could bring joy and wonder to everyone she meets, instead she doesn't. Her night ability could block someone's night action with thoughts of kittens and unicorns, but what's the fun in that? Instead she can manipulate her target's night action into doing the exact opposite of what it should. A doctor might kill their patient, or an investigation might return the wrong result or even out the investigated party to the world (I'll leave the specifics up to the boss man ) Win condition should be Town in the public thread, but secretly neutral. Princess Sparklebum wins if she survives to the end of the game. Investigations will reveal her true alignment. Basically NIGHTCUNT mark II Night actions to me by Thursday 2pm please. |
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