God I want waffles. Waffles, and Duck.

Waffles and duck together? Colour me interested!

I'm confused by today's posts? Are we FOSing Crash and Myp?

I don't see why you would be confused by today's posts!

Neutral generally means not associated with any group. Which wouldn't be the case for a cult. Which is decidedly groupie.

It makes a faction though, which is the role definition. After all neutrals (presumably) aren't a group either.

Equally I would expect an SK to be considered neutral. It could even be shorthand for 'other'.

Or Gaz knew he was away today and decided to try to bluff it out!

Question: What would be the benefit for Gaz were he bad? Also, in order for such a claim, the mafia would need a doctor to protect against other potential kill roles. I'm also a little doubtful they would've come to the consensus to put that out there so quickly. Also also: If I were a mafia type, I'd want people to think there was a cult out there even if there wasn't, and place that in.

The Gazchap as a bad guy seems a bit too much of a stretch to me. It'd be a needless and poorly executed risk. And I don't think Gaz is stupid, so... I'm trusting him until there's a good reason not to.

Irritatingly, much as I want to Fuck GazChap Up, I agree with Mr Dave.

Unless it's something to do with a hidden rule, there's no reason for GazChap to stick his neck out like he did if he's a bad guy.

He has an investigative role of sorts. He knows he can roleclaim that specific one and not get a claim against him. If the Mafia do not have a doctor then he can get the potential Townie doctor to protect him.

At the moment, if the Doctor is a townie then he's likely going to protect Gaz. That's a pretty damned good result for him if Gaz is Mafia.

I'm not saying that is what has necessarily happened, just that his claim would be a valid Mafia play.

The random lynch seems to nearly always nail a power townie

I totally agree with Curio, much better to try and hit someone. With 4 investigator roles we're actually in a good position. Even if one of them, hell even if two of them are mafia or something else, then worst case scenario we're still left with two pro-town investigators and can risk losing one to potentially hit a baddie instead.

Also, ending the day four hours early is unlikely to make any difference to when the next one starts.

That makes little sense. With four investigator roles the town is in a really strong position for actually finding out who the bad guys overnight are instead of hitting out randomly. If all the investigators are townies we can have everyone investigated in only 3 nights! Unless we start lynching the investigators...

There's no guarantee that the investigators will turn up anything useful.

Then they have to come forwards and at least one will then die overnight.

We could lose two to overnight kills and one to the cult, with the other being Mafia.

We get a lynch going then someone is forced to roleclaim, and THEY CAN'T LIE! We get more info from how people reacted and how they voted.

Ending the day early just almost definitely wipes out a townie or two or three and gives us nothing.

If all the investigators are townies we can have everyone investigated in only 3 nights!

the cult

We get a lynch going then someone is forced to roleclaim, and THEY CAN'T LIE! We get more info from how people reacted and how they voted.

Ending the day early just almost definitely wipes out a townie or two or three and gives us nothing.

That is predicated on each investigator choosing a different person every night and someone not picking someone who has already been investigated.

Unless you suggest they all roleclaim and organise it between themselves.

Gazchaps phrasing is slightly odd on sides which has been pointed out and is the only reason i'm going for him - if someone can come up with an alternative then speak up (Gaz?)