Day II - "We can't possibly do that, Mr Flibble....

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

That's a good question, it never came up in the last game. Actually it couldn't come up in the last game, as there were no roleblockers outside of the mafia.

Presumably not though I'd say, its the nominated killer that needs to be blocked, not the nominator.

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:29

Yeah, there's no Mafia Godfather this time around.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:29

Oh, right-o.

LaceSensor · **Joined:** 2nd Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 3137

Grim... wrote:

LaceSensor wrote:

1 - it will be a stalemate, and no lynch will occur. on the first day someone needed to die!

I still disagree with that. No-one has to die on the first day - we're going to get plenty of information that night anyway.

OK I will put it like this, it would be advantageous for the Townys to discover and kill a mafia or other bad person, as its almost guaranteed 1 townie will die in the first night. To not take the opportunity to lynch someone would be folly I think, the only caveat being you lynch the wrong person (cheers, there, CG) :smug:

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:32

I think I've made up my mind that I'm with Dudders on the whole "Comical / Dimrill" thing (now I've got Dimrill chasing Comical in my head, running across the "screen" and back again, Scooby-doo chase-style), so I'm not voting for either them (on the assumption that they're both townies).
[vote:unvote]
Quite who I will vote for, I have no clue.

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:33

LaceSensor wrote:

To not take the opportunity to lynch someone would be folly I think...

Daily Mail readers get everywhere, don't they?

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

LaceSensor wrote:

(cheers, there, CG) :smug:

I've still got you and rod under my nose as mafia, I reckon

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

LaceSensor wrote:

OK I will put it like this, it would be advantageous for the Townys to discover and kill a mafia or other bad person, as its almost guaranteed 1 townie will die in the first night.

This is true. However, with very little to go on, you are essentially making a random choice of lynchee and therefore you are odds-on to hit a townie. I'm starting to think Grim... is right and not lynching on day one might be a good move.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Rodafowa wrote:

No offence, but I think it's slightly bad form directly quoting a PM from the narrator as opposed to just telling us that Craster had said you'd roleblocked Dimmers. I was still entertaining a faint possibility that you might have been conducting the most audacious bluff in the history of Bluffington-on-the-Wye.

I don't think this "PM" changes whether you think he's lying at all. Is making a fake PM quote impossible or something?

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:38

LaceSensor wrote:

Grim... wrote:

LaceSensor wrote:

1 - it will be a stalemate, and no lynch will occur. on the first day someone needed to die!

I still disagree with that. No-one has to die on the first day - we're going to get plenty of information that night anyway.

OK I will put it like this, it would be advantageous for the Townys to discover and kill a mafia or other bad person, as its almost guaranteed 1 townie will die in the first night

But it's the time you're most likely not to get a Townie (what with there being more Townies and no-one really knowing anything).

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:40

Rodafowa wrote:

Still, having the knowledge that you can roleblock at will makes you a slightly more attractive target to the Mafia now so I s'pose it all works out.

The buttons are random - so button '3' probably won't do the same thing tonight.

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:40

ComicalGnomes wrote:

LaceSensor wrote:

(cheers, there, CG) :smug:

I've still got you and rod under my nose as mafia, I reckon

Oh, sod off. For what reason apart from suspecting you? If I was mafia, I'd have known for a fact Bluecup wasn't and would have switched my vote to him when the pendulum started swinging his way.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:41

Er...

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

Got to suspect someone pal, and you've been MEAN to me since day 1 :kiss:

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:41

Um...

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

What?

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:42

Grim... wrote:

Rodafowa wrote:

Still, having the knowledge that you can roleblock at will makes you a slightly more attractive target to the Mafia now so I s'pose it all works out.

The buttons are random - so button '3' probably won't do the same thing tonight.

Aaaaah, I getcha. So you get to know what effect you had but it's not repeatable?

Which makes it even more unsportsmanlike that you basically posted a note from the narrator confirming you're the scientist, then.

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:47

ComicalGnomes wrote:

Got to suspect someone pal, and you've been MEAN to me since day 1 :kiss:

You started it! :attitude:

Also, what happened to "if you lynch Bluecup, I'll happily vote to lynch myself in day 2?"

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to lynch myself, but Craster will tell me I'm sure.

I rather expected to be lynched already Rod, but if nobody has the stomach for it then I'm not going to complain too much, am I? I expected to die overnight and not be in this predicament

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Grim... wrote:

Rodafowa wrote:

Still, having the knowledge that you can roleblock at will makes you a slightly more attractive target to the Mafia now so I s'pose it all works out.

The buttons are random - so button '3' probably won't do the same thing tonight.

Can Craster clarify that? It'd be intereting if button 3 was fixed from now on. You'd have a dilemma between using your newfound roleblock power, or pushing another button and maybe finding the Kill The Guy setting (or of course the Goodbye Cruel World setting).

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Rodafowa wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Rodafowa wrote:

Still, having the knowledge that you can roleblock at will makes you a slightly more attractive target to the Mafia now so I s'pose it all works out.

The buttons are random - so button '3' probably won't do the same thing tonight.

Aaaaah, I getcha. So you get to know what effect you had but it's not repeatable?

Which makes it even more unsportsmanlike that you basically posted a note from the narrator confirming you're the scientist, then.

So you think him capable of keeping up the scientist pretence through all question over a day but you don't think he's capable of faking a PM quote?

Quote:

Message subject: MafiaScum Role - Game 2
From: Craster
Sent at: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:09 pm
To: Dudley
Message
Vigilante - You are a man on a mission, taking justice into your own hands. Once per night phase you can PM me the name of a player, and you will kill that player. Your win condition is Town.

I'm the Vigilante!

Oh wait...

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:53

ComicalGnomes wrote:

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to lynch myself, but Craster will tell me I'm sure.

I rather expected to be lynched already Rod, but if nobody has the stomach for it then I'm not going to complain too much, am I? I expected to die overnight and not be in this predicament

Man, you're such a wrong 'un. But I'm leaving this alone now, since pointing out your obvious wrong 'unitude was what got Bluecup the old hemp necklace.

*Pours a 40 on the ground for my dead townie*

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

richardgaywood wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Rodafowa wrote:

Still, having the knowledge that you can roleblock at will makes you a slightly more attractive target to the Mafia now so I s'pose it all works out.

The buttons are random - so button '3' probably won't do the same thing tonight.

Can Craster clarify that? It'd be intereting if button 3 was fixed from now on. You'd have a dilemma between using your newfound roleblock power, or pushing another button and maybe finding the Kill The Guy setting (or of course the Goodbye Cruel World setting).

He's confirmed more than once it's random.

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:56

Dudley wrote:

So you think him capable of keeping up the scientist pretence through all question over a day but you don't think he's capable of faking a PM quote?

I think faking a PM would push it from "persistant and audacious bluffery" to "borderline psychotic".

It's not a huge massive deal in this case, though. I just don't think it's a great precedent to set.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Given that's the object of the game I don't really have a problem with it... but that's because I'm the vigilante.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Looters in The Rev Owen's house call out that they have found a diary stuffed up the chimney.

Quote:

DAY ONE: The troubles have started here now, though I prayed we would be spared the violence and paranoia that has been sweeping our nation. My brother was killed in his village by the mafia on day two of their troubles for speaking out against them. There was nothing I could do. Had I known about the hit and tried to stop it, we would both surely be dead now. The mafia are strong. They must always prevail. There was nothing I could do to help my brother, but in his memory I must last more than two days. If I fail in that, I fail him. I will write more once the night's events have unfolded. I am mafia. I will survive.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

"Whoopsie!"

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Vote Update

comicalgnomes: 3 votes (gazchap, rodafowa, lacesensor)
dimrill: 1 votes (grim...)

Not voted: vegetables, comicalgnomes, sir taxalot, dimrill, pundabaya, sheepeh, nervouspete, dudley, joans, jbr, mr chris, richardgaywood

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

See I'm still not inclined to vote for the comster, it just makes the mafia stronger if we kill off the prisoner.

Plus he'd win. And then he'd be smug.

LaceSensor · **Joined:** 2nd Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 3137

Dudley wrote:

See I'm still not inclined to vote for the comster, it just makes the mafia stronger if we kill off the prisoner.

Plus he'd win. And then he'd be smug.

Ive got a feeling he will be smug whatever the outcome by now.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

It's what he does best.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Of course with grim..'s revelation he roleblocked the beardy one then really no-one targeted Com, including (and this really confuses me) the Guard.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Which as a further leap leads me to the fact Dim is DEFINATELY the guard and thus a friendly townie.

Look for anything Com does to get him killed, as a dead Dim is a Com win condition.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3236

Tempting to vote for Comical, but it does now feel as if he's incited it. That said, I don't remember thinking he was really asking to die on the first day so much as getting conversation started. On the grounds that the mafia are likely to shift tactics a little in a second game I'm still thinking he's got something to hide.

I'm inclined to believe Grim..., for what it's worth - surely there'd be some hole in his story by now if he weren't telling the truth.

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

Ummm... for all we know, the Guard did target CG, then found out that he wasn't the loony.

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

All of your intelligent speculation is highly suspicious Duds, and if I recall it's what made everyone turn on me yesterday ;(

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

JBR wrote:

I'm inclined to believe Grim..., for what it's worth - surely there'd be some hole in his story by now if he weren't telling the truth.

Though, on the other hand, he might very well be a cultist, now.

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:39

[VOTE:LaceSensor]

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

ComicalGnomes wrote:

All of your intelligent speculation is highly suspicious Duds, and if I recall it's what made everyone turn on me yesterday ;(

Hey I only voted for BC.

Which I do recognise is not a GREAT defence

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

Ah yes, as Gaz has reminded me, I might as well put my money where my chicken is regarding Lace's mafia ties.

[VOTE:LaceSensor]

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

What's the evidence against Lacey?

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:43

I wasn't getting a "trying to get himself killed" vibe of Comical at all. Exactly the opposite.

Dimmers as the cult leader?

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Rodafowa wrote:

I wasn't getting a "trying to get himself killed" vibe of Comical at all. Exactly the opposite.

And that's his genius. He needs to get himself killed without the guard realising. Which is why as soon as he was whispered as the pris he changed tact.

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

Dudley wrote:

What's the evidence against Lacey?

After Bluecup voted for me yesterday, Lace and Rod voted together without further comment. Looked suspiciously block-votey to me. I might have been wrong about BC, but I'm suspicious of them using the opportunity to try and spark a bandwagon

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Interesting, and Roda is briefing against you today...

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

So the theory goes, LaceSensor and Rodafowa are mafia, they made an early error by voting together (perhaps reasoning that such a move would be overlooked in the initial flurry of almost-random voting) and LaceSensor later withdrew his initial vote to look less aligned with him? And today, Rodafowa is going after ComicalGnomes to protect LaceSensor?

There's an amount of sense here.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Changed tack. It's a sailing derived term.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Vote Update

comicalgnomes: 2 votes (rodafowa, lacesensor)
lacesensor: 2 votes (comicalgnomes, gazchap)

Not voted: vegetables, sir taxalot, dimrill, pundabaya, sheepeh, nervouspete, dudley, joans, grim..., jbr, mr chris, richardgaywood

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

And they are the only two voting for com now.... interesting, I'm leaning towards Mr Sensor myself here...

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 12, 2008 13:00

As, I must say, am I.

[vote:lacesensor]

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