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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 19:39 
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Vote Update

comicalgnomes: 6 votes (comicalgnomes, gazchap, joans, kalmar, runcle, zardoz)
joans: 1 vote (spinglo sponglo!)

Not voted: bobbyaro, dudley, goddess jasmine, lacesensor, mr russ, sheepeh, squirt

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Thanks for the update

Interesting comments so far.
I think the prudent way to decide this "feud" is to vote one of them off.
I think that will yield significant information, one way or another.

To even the sides a bit Im going to [vote:joans]

if I look at CG and Joans in isolation for a moment, the balance goes to CG really because he supported the death of Curiosity whereas Joans did not.

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woohoo!

[vote:joans]

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ComicalGnomes wrote:
woohoo!

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makes sense, if we are talking just yourself and Joans in isolation.
Youve both been as vocal in my eyes, but you actually supported the death of Mafia.

no brainer i think, again, ignoring all other players for the time being.

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LaceSensor wrote:
ComicalGnomes wrote:
woohoo!

[vote:joans]



makes sense, if we are talking just yourself and Joans in isolation.
Youve both been as vocal in my eyes, but you actually supported the death of Mafia.

no brainer i think, again, ignoring all other players for the time being.


yes but he also has the same voting pattern as bluecup, and also most of us have said hes most likely not mafia, hes more likely to be cult, you ignoring the cult side seems to put wait your on the same side as comical.


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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 19:53 
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CG, I thought you were dead-set on punching out early to gloat from dead-land?

Look, if you're staying in the game and are actually a townie can you at least take it down a notch? You have, assuming innocence, got about the same amount of information as any other townie which is next to bugger-all, and yet we're spending all our time arguing about your opinion as if it's the only thing that counts. And you've been provably wrong on at least two points I can think of off the top of my head.

Fuck I probably could have been convinced to change my mind on Curiosity if it hadn't been for your wild and flawed arguments against him.

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Runcle wrote:
LaceSensor wrote:
ComicalGnomes wrote:
woohoo!

[vote:joans]



makes sense, if we are talking just yourself and Joans in isolation.
Youve both been as vocal in my eyes, but you actually supported the death of Mafia.

no brainer i think, again, ignoring all other players for the time being.


yes but he also has the same voting pattern as bluecup, and also most of us have said hes most likely not mafia, hes more likely to be cult, you ignoring the cult side seems to put wait your on the same side as comical.


I dont think such a high profile person would have been recruited.
Ive got CG as townie or SK for the timebeing.
Townie for his day 1 credentials.
SK on the slim chance he was happy to have Curiosity claim as SK.

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LaceSensor wrote:
I dont think such a high profile person would have been recruited.


Why not though? Surely they'd want noisy people on their side to help sway the voting away from other cult-ees?


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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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He's too high profile to have been recruited, but he might have been there from the start.

I'm going to shut up again now. ?:|


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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Joans and then kalmar. Craster had it right from Day 1.

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I mean he seems to think it's a risk himself, having claimed he hasn't been converted on his first post of both the last two days.


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When Zaphod's shown to be a bad guy, we can have a run on Kalmar tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Zaph was one of several suspects, of which you are one. I have faith he wasn't completely wrong and it makes it very bad for you.

I don't think you should judge my single-mindedness too harshly. The worst thing in this game is crap indecision when everyone fucks about and faffs over who to vote for. It's boring and gets us nowhere. If you're going to decide on someone, why not piledrive it home?

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Right I'm fucking voting for you then. You're cult. You've misguided us yesterday and you're trying to take out townies right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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lol, nice to be inspirational at least ;)

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Well I don't think CG is Mafia for the reasons I gave earlier. I'd actually be suprised if he was in the cult (assumming he's not the leader of course) for two reasons.
1. I would have expected the Mafia to off him by now because of the noises he's been making against their own (Curio) so it would be a waste.
2. If the Cult leader was gonna go for high profile people wouldn't they have gone for Craster as well, so over the last two nights they would have both been recruited?

Serial Killer? Could well be! But I'd rather go for the cult and Mafia right now, the SK is as likely to hit one of them as one of us, and we are more likely to lose greater numbers to them at the moment.

Who's going to be the first to tell me my logic is flawed? :P

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Right I'm fucking voting for you then. You're cult. You've misguided us yesterday and you're trying to take out townies right now.

[vote:ComicalGnomes]

Indeed, and if I remember rightly he played a similar game in the game where he was cult leader, skillfully managing to deflect the votes away from him when it looked like he was for the chop.

I don't think he's cult leader though, but I find it hard to believe that he's a townie. Going round calling everyone cunts isn't what innocents do, in my book ;)


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Sound logic, I'm not the SK either though.

Also, vote Joans. ;)

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GazChap wrote:
Going round calling everyone cunts isn't what innocents do, in my book ;)

It's what I do every day of the week, cunt.

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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1. I would have expected the Mafia to off him by now because of the noises he's been making against their own (Curio) so it would be a waste.

Except that Curio is dead, and died on day 1. So any noise that Comical made about him is irrelevant, as the likelihood of him finding other mafia to pester is slim.

And besides, they may have tried to off him on night 1 but been foiled by the Doctor. Unfortunately we don't know who that is or who he protected that night.


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And besides, they may have tried to off him on night 1 but been foiled by the Doctor. Unfortunately we don't know who that is or who he protected that night.

I'd already forgotton about that, I knew one of you would find a flaw for me somewhere!

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Well I don't think CG is Mafia for the reasons I gave earlier. I'd actually be suprised if he was in the cult (assumming he's not the leader of course) for two reasons.
1. I would have expected the Mafia to off him by now because of the noises he's been making against their own (Curio) so it would be a waste.

Nobody's saying he's Mafia I don't think.
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2. If the Cult leader was gonna go for high profile people wouldn't they have gone for Craster as well, so over the last two nights they would have both been recruited?

Well it's a good point but we don't know what the cult leader is doing. CG could have been cult from the start. It would certainly have explained why he was so keen to get rid of the SK on day 1 (nobody good knew he wasn't at that point, mind), cos the SK is a threat to the cult.

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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grumble.

If nothing else CG is correct we need decisiveness.

at this rate ill be following that advice and changing votes :spew: :nerd:

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Vote Update

comicalgnomes: 5 votes (gazchap, joans, kalmar, runcle, zardoz)
joans: 3 votes (comicalgnomes, lacesensor, spinglo sponglo!)

Not voted: bobbyaro, dudley, goddess jasmine, mr russ, sheepeh, squirt

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Yeah, I agree we need info and can only start to gather it as the days pass, I don't like to rush days, but if it's just going to be the same argument...

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Come on then Jasmine, vote. If Lace switches too I can put my own nail in.

I'm telling you in advance that it's a stupid move, but if you're all convinced, totally convinced, then I won't argue.

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Yeah, I agree we need info and can only start to gather it as the days pass, I don't like to rush days, but if it's just going to be the same argument...


I think we can all agree that the feud demonstrated can provide two candidates.

lets see how the split of the town goes voting for them, see what faction they belong to and move on from there.


it seems the logical way forward.

if it takes time, so be it, if it doesnt, thats good also.

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If killing me and revealing me to be a townie encourages a swift lynch of Joans tomorrow then I positively support it.

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ComicalGnomes wrote:
Come on then Jasmine, vote. If Lace switches too I can put my own nail in.

I'm telling you in advance that it's a stupid move, but if you're all convinced, totally convinced, then I won't argue.

I don't want to vote for you though, I think you're a Townie (rightly or wrongly).

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rightly, if it helps ;)

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Heh, it doesn't help the situation though does it?

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vote craster. the idiot! :D

I am uncertain about whether either joans or CG are bad guys. They appear to be the classic townies arguing. However, look how upset Curiosity got when he was getting close to being lynched. CG is heading that way, even over and above his normal belligerence.

I am getting more and more suspicious of GJ and sheepeh. And Lacesensor is being rather under the radar, in fact LS has not come in for any target at all.
I think the mafia/cult are probably finding it easy to hide when there is two prominent (potential) townies slagging each other off, like normal.

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Lace for cult leader imo ;)

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All good points bobbyaro.

Sheepeh, squirt, lacesensor and Mr Russ are all far too quiet. But I'm sure there's at least one talkative bad guy right now too.

I don't particularly think it's a good idea to force a "faction split" over CG and Joans either. If they both turn out to be townies we're completely boned, and if one of them is guilty it still doesn't tell us much about those voting: the bad guys know what's what so can vote tactically or stay out of it, the townies don't. As an example, CG has tried to paint everyone not voting for Curiosity as a bad guy, and we can see how far that's getting us, and how completely wrong it's turned out so far.

In fact the more I think about it, the more it smells like a cult tactic.

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Lace for cult leader imo ;)

predictable based on your earlier comments

fwiw if I were cult leader and you were recruitable, youd be high on my list

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Yes, very interesting kalmar. 'I' and the 9 people that voted with me, got it wrong over Zaphod. That's once.

You're right, it would be bad for the mafia if Joans and I factionalised. If you kill me and I'm seen to be a townie, it looks all the worse for you and Joans as my main antagonists. Therefore it's a good tactic you've got going there, swerving off course to point the finger randomly at Lace.

Mind you, I've got him pegged as a possible cult leader, so if I'm right and that and he turns out to be the evils, that'd further alleviate suspicion from you as you'd worked to eliminate A Bad Guy.

I'm either a fucking genius or awesomely wrong, I can't wait to find out which.

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kalmar wrote:
All good points bobbyaro.

Sheepeh, squirt, lacesensor and Mr Russ are all far too quiet. But I'm sure there's at least one talkative bad guy right now too.

I don't particularly think it's a good idea to force a "faction split" over CG and Joans either. If they both turn out to be townies we're completely boned, and if one of them is guilty it still doesn't tell us much about those voting: the bad guys know what's what so can vote tactically or stay out of it, the townies don't. As an example, CG has tried to paint everyone not voting for Curiosity as a bad guy, and we can see how far that's getting us, and how completely wrong it's turned out so far.

In fact the more I think about it, the more it smells like a cult tactic.

[vote:lacesensor]


tbh I have contributed as much as i can,and im definitely more busy than shepeh squirt or mr russ fercrisssakes.

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Is the CCTV Operator ever going to give us useful information? Is anyone going to own up to having a vision?

I mean, come on guys, throw us a fricking bone here.


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Bluecup voted for Sheepeh yesterday and held that vote (even as the Sheepeh bandwagon grew) until switching to Zaphod right at the end.
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Special roles are always fucking useless, nobody has the balls to pipe up what they've learned, or haven't learned, which is almost as useful.

Mind you, when I've got a special role and I pipe up, nobody fucking believes me and then I get poked by an SK knife or a mafia bullet.

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Bluecup voted for Sheepeh yesterday and held that vote (even as the Sheepeh bandwagon grew) until switching to Zaphod right at the end.

I'd say that exonerates Sheepeh as being Mafia, but not necessarily cult. Although it largely depends on how many votes Sheepeh had when Bluecup voted for him.


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Is the CCTV Operator ever going to give us useful information? Is anyone going to own up to having a vision?

I mean, come on guys, throw us a fricking bone here.


I knew there was something I meant to mention earlier.
There's not necessarily a CCTV operator or a Seer in the game, but whoever gets the Seer's vision doesn't have to reveal their own role to tell us what they saw.
So I assume that so far nobody has had a vision or the people that have had visions haven't wanted to reveal them (no point exposing a confirmed townie to the cult unless he's in danger of a lynch, and obviously wouldn't want to expose a fellow mafia/cultist).


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LaceSensor wrote:

tbh I have contributed as much as i can,and im definitely more busy than shepeh squirt or mr russ fercrisssakes.


busy as in posting on the thread I mean


am I also busy in real life too, of course as I mentioned on day 1.

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Special roles are always fucking useless, nobody has the balls to pipe up what they've learned, or haven't learned, which is almost as useful.

Mind you, when I've got a special role and I pipe up, nobody fucking believes me and then I get poked by an SK knife or a mafia bullet.


Actually your information as census taker was instrumental in us lynching GazChap, mafia godfather. Unfortunately, Craster had rather spectacularly fucked up and we gave him a reprieve and nearly lost the game. But we did listen to you. :)

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Bluecup voted for Sheepeh yesterday and held that vote (even as the Sheepeh bandwagon grew) until switching to Zaphod right at the end.

I'd say that exonerates Sheepeh as being Mafia, but not necessarily cult. Although it largely depends on how many votes Sheepeh had when Bluecup voted for him.


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Yes, very interesting kalmar. 'I' and the 9 people that voted with me, got it wrong over Zaphod. That's once.

No, I said that you tried to paint everyone who voted for Curiosity as good, and those who didn't as bad.
Out of the "lynch him" column, we know the nature of Bluecup (scum) and Craster (not scum)
Out of the "not lynching him" column, we know mrak (not scum) and Zaphod (not scum). And I won't bother saying myself (not scum)

Not a terribly good score to go on with killing people from column B, is it, which is what you've been proposing very insistently.

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You're right, it would be bad for the mafia if Joans and I factionalised. If you kill me and I'm seen to be a townie, it looks all the worse for you and Joans as my main antagonists.

Dude, I've mainly voted for you (on both days now) because you're quite infuriating and a lot of your arguments don't stand up, or you don't have arguments but only bluster.

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Therefore it's a good tactic you've got going there, swerving off course to point the finger randomly at Lace.

Mind you, I've got him pegged as a possible cult leader, so if I'm right and that and he turns out to be the evils, that'd further alleviate suspicion from you as you'd worked to eliminate A Bad Guy.


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My maths is shit, what are the odds of the Seer (if he exists) picking two people that would fit that situation two nights running?

The CCTV operator was only of any use last night, assuming he chose to watch instead of installing a second camera. If that's the case, then even if he didn't see anything, knowing who he watched would be helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 21:58 
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kalmar wrote:
Dude, I've mainly voted for you (on both days now) because you're quite infuriating and a lot of your arguments don't stand up, or you don't have arguments but only bluster.

Dude, my arguments are solid, you're the one voting for me without a scrap of evidence. You're the staunch defender of scum, not me.

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 22:00 
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before I get off for a bit,

FOS @ runcle, kalmar and Joans...

and a bit of CG for his way out of leftfield call.

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Don't ge tetchy, I said you were a possibility. You'll know when I've decided.

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 Post subject: Re: Game VII Day 3
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Right, I'm going to bed. Try to be good while I'm gone, eh? ;)

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