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 Post subject: UNScum : Day 5
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:54 
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The delegates gathered in the central camera control room the following morning, maybe all this equipment had picked something up, a few figures shifted on their heels as the recordings from the rooms showed all manner of, frankly disturbing, things "What the....? What are you doing with that plunger? Are those sheets latex?" They then come across the video from Grim...s suite.

There is an audible knock at the door of the suite, a scantily clad nymph skips to answer the door and doesn't return.
The mystery caller enters the room, "Avon Calling" comes the polite and well spoken tones of an English gentleman, his hat obscuring his face at this angle and his voice strangely unrecognizable, "I am so terribly sorry to disturb you but I think, perhaps, that you are not really helping our cause. This does disappoint me greatly."
A .22 silenced pistol can still make quite a mess and as Grim...s face and bits of brain slide down his chest, becoming matted in his glorious chest rug, the stranger rose and with a sigh and slight adjustment of his bowler hat can be heard saying, "Poor Mrs. Miggins, I do wish they'd just vote these fools off during the day, I do so hate making a mess."

Grim... was a German Federal Aide

Mrs Miggins is getting pissed off, especially as she has just found Goddess Jasmine dead as a dodo! With a note. The note reads:
"Enemies of the Truth and the True Way are to BEWARE! We will fight to the last man! Your 'democracy' and 'voting' makes us laugh! LONG LIVE GADDAFFI!"

Goddess Jasmine was a Swiss Councillor

Thank god that is over!

Wait...

Nickachu is missing too! Mrs Miggins has gone home, she has had enough, so the delegates go searching. They find him in his hotel room, with a towel on his head, suffocated to death. The TV is tuned to The Big Bang Theory, or it could be The IT Crowd? I think the killer must have been a fan.

Nickachu was a British MP

A total bloodbath!





But wait....




Bobbyaro is missing. He left a note.
"Sorry guys, but the death of Curiosity has hit me harder than I realised. I've resigned from the council and am taking a holiday."
There are details of a plane ticket to the Hedonism resort next to the note, and a German newspaper. From your rudimentary German, it seems that Bobbyaro and Curiosity had been accused of "renting a room" from each other for some time...

Bobbyaro was the German Chancellor

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 13:06 
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Well, Grim...'s note was write about Gilly.
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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Hang on, how have we got so many deaths? I am now seriously confused, anyone got any ideas?

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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I think we have a British kill, a Libyan kill, an Afghan kill and Bobby's just left the game to prevent a real life kill for playing while he's on honeymoon.


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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The Afgans, The Libyans and the British must've all got kills.

Bobby has gone on honeymoon so can't play any more, I assume anyway.

That's all I've got right now.

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Jesus. Horror in the halls!

I reckon we go with what Grim... said (even if he was German)

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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DavPaz wrote:
Jesus. Horror in the halls!

I reckon we go with what Grim... said (even if he was German)

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Did Grim... say Malc was Libyan? Or are people assuming the message came from Grim...? Was there anything else in the message?

I have to say, the whole message thing makes me feel a little uneasy. What's to say the Brits or Afgans don't have a crazy spy too....?

I'm saying Malc isn't a bad guy, I'm just wondering why everyone is assuming they know where the notes come from. I have never received any notes :( Why have I been forsaken?

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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flis wrote:

I'm saying Malc isn't a bad guy, I'm just wondering why everyone is assuming they know where the notes come from. I have never received any notes :( Why have I been forsaken?


Obvious mistype! The word 'not' is definitely missing there!

I need to go back and read what was said on the days after there were only 2 kills. Grim... is pretty clever so perhaps he got some secret messages in?

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Grim... says he got this message:

"Gilly & Malc are Libyan's they need to die ".

Gilly was a Libyan, Grim... was German, so it's in his interest to kill off the Libyans and the Afghans, but obviously we don't know who sent him the note and what their interests are.


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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I got the same note, and I'm a dull ass Swiss. I'm guessing Flis has another role...


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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flis wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Jesus. Horror in the halls!

I reckon we go with what Grim... said (even if he was German)

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Did Grim... say Malc was Libyan? Or are people assuming the message came from Grim...? Was there anything else in the message?

I have to say, the whole message thing makes me feel a little uneasy. What's to say the Brits or Afgans don't have a crazy spy too....?

I'm saying Malc isn't a bad guy, I'm just wondering why everyone is assuming they know where the notes come from. I have never received any notes :( Why have I been forsaken?


Are you sending the notes?


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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UNScum : Day 5

VOTE UPDATE

malc: 3 (Joans, DavPaz, gospvg)

Not voted: 4 (flis, slightly green, malc, alarm)

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Stop!

This is a bit too much like a band wagon, we have lots of time, let Malc respond and we at least get more information from discussion. Personally i very much doubt the information in that note, just because it has been proven 50% correct doesn't necessarily follow that the other half is correct. If i were a spy and wanted to cause damage then you sacrifice Gilly (who looked to be kicked anyhow) and buy time with a random. I am not saying this is the case, just that it is a possibility.

Lets not rush and make a fuck up here

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Have you considered that Gilly was lying? Making up the spying stuff and was just a Lybian? It's the next step up from Curio a former delagate's knee-jerk role claims :)


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Have you considered that Gilly was lying? Making up the spying stuff and was just a Lybian? It's the next step up from Curio a former delagate's knee-jerk role claims :)


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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(sorry for the double post)

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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DavPaz wrote:
Have you considered that Gilly was lying? Making up the spying stuff and was just a Lybian? It's the next step up from Curio a former delagate's knee-jerk role claims :)


But what about the message Grim received?


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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gospvg wrote:

Are you sending the notes?


No....

Did everyone receive the not about Malc and Gilly, then? Is it just me who didn't?

Ok, so we know the Germans can investigate so the info Grim... and Bobby gave is true. We know Gilly was a spy and that she could send notes but she couldn't choose who they went to....? If she could, she'd just send them to her fellow Libyans, right? So there must be another note sender out there, another spy. So is this spy a real spy? Or a fake one, like Gilly?

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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DavPaz wrote:
Have you considered that Gilly was lying? Making up the spying stuff and was just a Lybian? It's the next step up from Curio a former delagate's knee-jerk role claims :)



Well i know that their is defiantly a unknown role out that (if not more than one), as i have received two notes throughout this game, passed on from Trooper. It does show that the 'spy' role isn't brilliant as they defiantly got some information wrong in them, which is why i am reluctant to just post them up, it would just make a confusing situation worse.

I will post them up later, but would like to hear from Malc first.

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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flis wrote:
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Are you sending the notes?


No....

Did everyone receive the not about Malc and Gilly, then? Is it just me who didn't?

Ok, so we know the Germans can investigate so the info Grim... and Bobby gave is true. We know Gilly was a spy and that she could send notes but she couldn't choose who they went to....? If she could, she'd just send them to her fellow Libyans, right? So there must be another note sender out there, another spy. So is this spy a real spy? Or a fake one, like Gilly?


Gilly was lying she was not a spy but a libiyan


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Did everyone receive the not about Malc and Gilly, then? Is it just me who didn't?



Nope, i didn't receive that note either

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Or was Gilly the SPY - did she have a double role?


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Slightly Green wrote:
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Did everyone receive the not about Malc and Gilly, then? Is it just me who didn't?



Nope, i didn't receive that note either


I got the note


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Slightly Green wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Have you considered that Gilly was lying? Making up the spying stuff and was just a Lybian? It's the next step up from Curio a former delagate's knee-jerk role claims :)

Well i know that their is defiantly a unknown role out that (if not more than one), as i have received two notes throughout this game, passed on from Trooper. It does show that the 'spy' role isn't brilliant as they defiantly got some information wrong in them, which is why i am reluctant to just post them up, it would just make a confusing situation worse.


I think you need to share this info.


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 14:02 
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I am not Libyan, I am French!

We have not been invaded either, this is one of the reasons I "know" that 2 people form each country.

Now this info might make you want to vote for me anyway, but I hope you think there are bigger fish to fry because at the moment, all I want to do is survive...

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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gospvg wrote:

Gilly was lying she was not a spy but a libiyan


Where did she get that role description from then? Some of it must have been true. I think she could well have been a spy who chose to be on the Libyans side, therefore becoming Libyan and taking on their win con.

Unless she was covering for the real spy....?

I am much confused.

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I have to go back to work now, so I can't say much more, please don't hurt me though...

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Using Joans figures

Americans - 2 dead, 0-1 left
British - 1 dead, 1-2 left

Afghans - 1 dead, 0-2 left
Lybians - 1 dead, 1-2 left

Germans - 2 dead, 0-1 left
Dutch - 2 dead, 0-1 left

French - 0 dead, 1-3 left

Switzerland - 3 dead, must be all of them?


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Ok. Simply to avoid the one vote kill

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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flis wrote:
gospvg wrote:

Gilly was lying she was not a spy but a libiyan


Where did she get that role description from then? Some of it must have been true. I think she could well have been a spy who chose to be on the Libyans side, therefore becoming Libyan and taking on their win con.

Unless she was covering for the real spy....?

I am much confused.


Double Agent role - Wow
Kudos to Trooper then for this role in the game.

Anyhow she's dead.
I'm going to unvote for now so Malc has a chance to answer

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[vote:gospvg]

Just an educated guess.

(based on mistyping the unvote for me, and some of the things he's said that I don't have time to go into until later)

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ah shit

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really must work now

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gospvg wrote:

Double Agent role - Wow
Kudos to Trooper then for this role in the game.

Anyhow she's dead.
I'm going to unvote for now so Malc has a chance to answer

vote:unvote


your unvote hasn't counted btw.

And yes i agree :hat: hats off for the double agent roll Trooper, a work of pure evil

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gospvg wrote:
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Did everyone receive the not about Malc and Gilly, then? Is it just me who didn't?



Nope, i didn't receive that note either


I got the note

I received a note, but not that one.

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hats off for the double agent roll Trooper, a total dick move


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DavPaz wrote:
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hats off for the double agent roll Trooper, a total dick move


:D FTFY


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Slightly Green wrote:
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Double Agent role - Wow
Kudos to Trooper then for this role in the game.

Anyhow she's dead.
I'm going to unvote for now so Malc has a chance to answer

vote:unvote


your unvote hasn't counted btw.



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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Did everyone receive the not about Malc and Gilly, then? Is it just me who didn't?



Nope, i didn't receive that note either


I got the note

I received a note, but not that one.


The note you were discussing with Gilly yesterday or another note?


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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
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Lots of people seem to have received different notes, the reason i am not sure sharing them is a good idea is it would be very easy for people to fake notes and throw more mud in a already swampy pool, however that said i will post the 2 notes up that i have received if that is what most people think will be helpful.

Are we going to do a mass note reveal?

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Lots of people seem to have received different notes, the reason i am not sure sharing them is a good idea is it would be very easy for people to fake notes and throw more mud in a already swampy pool, however that said i will post the 2 notes up that i have received if that is what most people think will be helpful.

Are we going to do a mass note reveal?


I think it will give us some info, it could be wrong info but any info is better than none. I only received the one note about Gilly & Malc yesterday.


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Well, now that Malc has outed himself as French, we have to get rid of him don't we? In case he gets recruited by the bad guys?

I believe that he is French and that he got investigated by the Germans on night 2, based purely on the fact Grim... was suspicious of him that day and Bobby said he knew who the French guy is.

Malcs win con is 'survive' so he doesn't care if he gets recruited now, as long as he is alive at the end of the game he's golden.

If all the baddies target him tonight, what happens....? Who's side does he go on to?

Given how many neutrals there can be left, we can't allow any of the warmongers or infidels to recruit even one more member as then I don't see how we can win...

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gospvg wrote:
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Did everyone receive the not about Malc and Gilly, then? Is it just me who didn't?



Nope, i didn't receive that note either


I got the note

I received a note, but not that one.


The note you were discussing with Gilly yesterday or another note?

The note I was discussing yesterday. I have only received one note.

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So,

by my rekoning, there are the following in the game

2 French (me plus one)

1 Dutch

1 Brit

1 Libyan

1 Afghan

1 Spy (probably allied with the Libyans, due to Gilly knowing of the spy role)

That's 7, so that means no Swiss are left...

I really don't think I'm the best person to be killing based on that summary.

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Malc wrote:
So,

by my rekoning, there are the following in the game

2 French (me plus one)

1 Dutch

1 Brit

1 Libyan

1 Afghan

1 Spy (probably allied with the Libyans, due to Gilly knowing of the spy role)

That's 7, so that means no Swiss are left...

I really don't think I'm the best person to be killing based on that summary.

Malc


So with Malc's numbers and him knowing 2 of the 7 people for sure, and us wanting to get rid of 3 of the 7 (the three kill roles, possibly 4 if you want the spy gone also) i am happy to follow Malc's lead on a vote here, or am i missing something? Anyway am off out for most of the day so will check back again late this afternoon.

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Slightly Green wrote:
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So,

by my rekoning, there are the following in the game

2 French (me plus one)

1 Dutch

1 Brit

1 Libyan

1 Afghan

1 Spy (probably allied with the Libyans, due to Gilly knowing of the spy role)

That's 7, so that means no Swiss are left...

I really don't think I'm the best person to be killing based on that summary.

Malc


So with Malc's numbers and him knowing 2 of the 7 people for sure, and us wanting to get rid of 3 of the 7 (the three kill roles, possibly 4 if you want the spy gone also) i am happy to follow Malc's lead on a vote here, or am i missing something? Anyway am off out for most of the day so will check back again late this afternoon.


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You are of course assuming that Malc is telling the truth that he is French?


That is true, but no one else has come out to dispute his claim, which i my mind at least lends him credibility...are you french?

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 Post subject: Re: UNScum : Day 5
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:16 
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I'm a bit confused as to why we'd get a note saying that Gilly & Malc are Libyans, then when it turns out Gilly is a Libyan (in spite of her protests), we're willing to believe Malc when he says he isn't.

I can think of three possible note scenarios:
1. Complete guesswork, just got really lucky that Gilly was a Libyan, Malc could be anything
2. Knew they were both Libyans
3. Knew both roles, but is lying about Malc being a Libyan in the hope that we lynch him, because actually he's a...

I guess there's also option 4, knew Gilly was Libyan, hasn't a clue about Malc.


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 Post subject: UNScum : Day 5
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:21 

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Slightly Green wrote:
gospvg wrote:
You are of course assuming that Malc is telling the truth that he is French?


That is true, but no one else has come out to dispute his claim, which i my mind at least lends him credibility...are you french?


I could say Yes & I could say No, would I be telling the truth or not?


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