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Fuck it, all cards on the table and apologies if this causes miss-aimed suspicsion, but I Ackbarred Sinister Agent on Night One.

Playing catch-up again, so long story short

[vote:Sinister Agent]

Yeah... I'm with Kalmar [vote:Sinister agent]

I was going to anyway, but the extra evidence kinda seals it for me and should every rebel..

[Vote: sinister agent]

Dammit, he's going to turn out to be a (loudmouthed, wrong) rebel, isn't it.

It's worth noting that if you blocked Sinister on night one and he's Palpatine or Maul, you'd surely be dead by now?

Didnt you also say you were Ackbared ?

(I'd need to check back but an early day at one point you said you were)

However he could be a stormtrooper , and the one chosen to do the killing for that night which would explain the no kill ?

Nope. I said "I know who Ackbar is" and no-one ever suggested that I could be he.

Clever wording I know, cheers.

There's a long way to go before he's lynched yet...

Yeah, I was just coming back to add that in.

Right, sorry! I have been busy financially screwing subcontractors, let's face it, being a Jedi doesn't exactly pay the bills.

Ok, the last question we asked was "Have either MaliA or sinister agent faith in the dark side of the force". The answer was YES. Make of that what you will, good rebels.

That signs it up for me.

My vote stays with SA

Malc

I reckon MaliA is bad too though TBH.

[vote:Sinister Agent]

I agree - its 50/50 but with the Ackbarring thrown in its more likely he's a wrong un

[Vote: sinister agent]

[vote:Sinister Agent]

If he's not sith, then you're toast tomorrow, flis.

I can't bring myself to vote for Sinister for one good reason: He's known who I am since night one and I'm still alive.

[vote:unvote]
Let's not let this go too fast.

What if he's bad and doesn't have the ability to choose to kill you?

Malc

In fact [vote:MaliA]

If he's a stormie, that wouldn't make a difference.

Yeah, I'm thinking that too... Perhaps he had other plans and didn't see Ackbar as a threat this early?

Two things :

If he's a stormtrooper then he cant choose to kill you
You could be a thorn in the side of the Jedi as well , its been said you've blocked them - you wouldnt have been able to do that if they offed you at the start.

However , we have time , and the question is do we lynch now or talk a bit more first - Malia's last post looks very dodgy - and we may want to allow the known goodies to sort out in here what they are doing for tonights actions.


[vote:unvote]

ie jabba, lando (if he choose badly), fett and the storm troopers.

I still think he's fett or jabba.

Malc

I have no night action now, as I'm slaved.

*rattles cup on bars*

*adjusts bikini*

If Sinister is a stormtrooper (and reading back over the threads I'm inclined to think he is), then he couldn't do anything about the fact that he knew who you were.

However, MaliA's continued accusations against Flis (as well as his posting in the rest of the threads) are incredibly suspicious.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're both bad.

[vote:Sinister Agent] for now.

Hang on though, if SA is a badguy who can't night-kill or commuicate with other baddies, but knows who DavPaz is, surely he'd be gunning to lynch him during the day?
Or would he not do that as DavPaz would then have confirmation he's bad?
Oof, this is tricky.

Not necessarily Joans, Ackbar has blocked Jedi too so he has been useful to have around, add to that the fact Jabba could have caught him and taken him out of the game. In some cases, knowing who a player is just helps you prioritise your kills.

I know I'm a rebel, which means that sinister must be sith. If sinister is good, then I know that flis is leading us on a merry dance. And so will everyone else, and she'll pay for it tomorrow, as then any confidence in her would have gone.

The fact that he didn't mention it is certainly suspicious though.

The Dodgy Siren is activating.

The minute he even indicated towards a vote for Ackbar, Ackbar would immediately know he was a bad guy.

I don't do well in these games but has clicked with me.. It does seem obvious. Perhaps a little too obvious? I don't know..

My vote still stands for now.

I am willing to go along with this and lynch Sinister, however if he turns out to be good, then I believe it would be you who paid for it tomorrow. Then, if you turned out to be good, any confidence in Flis would have gone.

Scum Wars Day Six
VOTE UPDATE

malia: 1 (kalmar)
sinister agent: 7 (Zeppo, Malc, Joans, TheVision, LaceSensor, Craster, MaliA)

Not voted: 11 (gilly, zaphod79, davpaz, kovacsc, gazchap, flis, sinister agent, bobbyaro, alarm, applepieofdestiny, goddess jasmine)

With 19 players alive, 10 votes are required for a lynch, and 14 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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IF Sinister is evil, his cover is excellent. His long detailed post on page one of today made a lot of sense form a rebel point of view.

I'll not be lynching today.

Better her than me.

Why didn't you mention being ackbarred, SA?

Only a sith deals in absolutes...



Would you care to explain?
One would think that if 50:50 sinister and YOU are bad, and sinister isn't, then it would likely be you for the chop
You know what the more I think of it sinister is probably a stormtrooper.
For the reason ackbar is still alive.

Stormtroopers are less valuable than other sith, or the slavers at this point.
They are redundant while palpatine is still alive as they are pawns.

I'm almost tempted to switch to malia here...

As a guess, I'd say it's because I (kinda) did and there was no need.

I think it's fair to say that if Flis was lying, there's been more than enough time for one of the real Jedi to challenge her roleclaim. And no-one has.

I'm happy to take that risk, and I'm sure that I'll be exonerated.

Scenario 1: Sinister swings and he is a baddie. Flis's credibility increases, MaliA lives.
Scenario 2: Sinister swings and is a rebel. Mali is next, then...
a) maliA is a rebel, flis is up next
b) malia isn't a rebel, flis's credibility increases

So, my fate is basically on flis's information which might or might not be accurate (at its very best it could be described as disjointed and confused) but the only way to test this is to start hanging people.

Just caught up with this thread. Sinister has to be bad, his last post to me last night which I only read just now was continuing to attack me for pointing out holes in his LOGICAL ARGUMENT as he kept shouting at me, even when other people engaged in the conversation at the time were agreeing with me.
MaliA has been acting a bit weird all game, is it possible the Jedi could ask straight out tonight if he is Sith? I'd rather not have any vagueness about it tomorrow, either we lynch him or we don't. Although I suppose he could be a baddy but not Sith...could the question be phrased as Does MaliA have a win condition other than rebel?
I'm happy to vote for SA just now though.
Do we want more time to decide anything or are we happy to put votes in?

DavPaz, I think the reason for the long and logical post was because it didn't really implicate anyone and instead kept pointing out errors in the jedi tactics but without accusing them. Reading it back it looks like he was showing how useful to use he was but with his own hidden motivations and also making sure he kept up the wariness to trust flis. He was attempting to manipulate us.

Sinister has been playing a very clever game so far if he is Sith.

I've noticed that he's been quite careful not to be too... definitive, with his "accusations". What he's posted today has made a lot of sense from the Rebels point of view, but it did come across as being almost "jump in quick with a long helpful post to allay suspicion."

But then, no-one was particularly suspicious of him anyway until today, as far as I can remember. Perhaps he realised that as the power roles are starting to bring themselves forward, his days are numbered (after being Ackbar'd?) so is getting in there now.

On the other hand, MaliA has been consistently vocal about being suspicious of me, which immediately sets off my Sithdar for obvious reasons.

I don't know. If I vote for Sinister, and he turns out to be innocent, I'm probably going to die. On the other hand, if I vote for MaliA (and Sinister still gets lynched, because he's looking for the chop round about now) and it turns out that Sinister is a bad guy, I'm probably going to die because it'll be the second time I've had a conflict of opinion and inadvertently not voted for the bad dude.

Rollocks to it. [vote:sinister agent]

I don't even see how flis is still on any rebel's radar.
I realise some people would *like* what she says to be in doubt, but it's getting a bit desperate sounding now.

Asked I missed the last to votes (1 I was driving, yesterday was over before I logged on), I have to admit that SA is acting odd still support in Vadar, while MaliA is just odd all the time.

Is this a 2 horse race, or is there another option

Davpaz - Ack so Safe
Flis - Jedi for Now

Anymore that we know?

Scum Wars Day Six

VOTE UPDATE

malia: 1 (kalmar)
sinister agent: 7 (Zeppo, Malc, Joans, TheVision, LaceSensor, Craster, MaliA)

Not voted: 11 (gilly, zaphod79, davpaz, kovacsc, gazchap, flis, sinister agent, bobbyaro, alarm, applepieofdestiny, goddess jasmine)

With 19 players alive, 10 votes are required for a lynch, and 14 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

Ok, I am being swayed by logic, even if this does feel like a betrayal.

[vote:Sinister Agent]

For what it's worth GazChap, I think Joans' reasoning on why you shouldn't be under suspicion is sound and I really don't understand how anyone can continue to use it as a reason to suspect you unless they are on the wrong side.
I don't think you should be next on the list if it turns out SA is innocent (which I really doubt.)

Scum Wars Day Six
VOTE UPDATE

malia: 1 (kalmar)
sinister agent: 9 (Zeppo, Malc, Joans, TheVision, LaceSensor, Craster, MaliA, GazChap, DavPaz)

Not voted: 9 (gilly, zaphod79, kovacsc, flis, sinister agent, bobbyaro, alarm, applepieofdestiny, goddess jasmine)

With 19 players alive, 10 votes are required for a lynch, and 14 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/