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Very nice. How much time do you have in Rome?


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Barclaycard are idiots. Go online to change my address (like I should have done four months ago). Put in the postcode, look up the street address. "Field value is too long, maximum is 23 dharacters. Please abbreviate". But...you looked it up! Why would you set a maximum field length shorter than what YOU JUST FILLED IT IN WITH? Fine. I'll appreviate it. Hit submit. Changes it back to the unabbreviated value and then complains it's too long again.

BARCLAYCARD, YOU'RE FUCKING DUMB.

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Very nice. How much time do you have in Rome?

Four nights, arrive on the Thursday and leave the Monday evening. I can't believe she kept it secret for so long, she booked it before the summer last year :o


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Put in the postcode, look up the street address. "Field value is too long, maximum is 23 dharacters. Please abbreviate".

What the fuck street do you live on?

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Very nice. How much time do you have in Rome?

Four nights, arrive on the Thursday and leave the Monday evening. I can't believe she kept it secret for so long, she booked it before the summer last year :o


Excellent. We loved it (and Pompeii which is an easy day trip) and you need a few days to see enough of it.


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One that's more than 23 characters!

Still, when you're creating a text field that you're going to autopopulate from a look up, you set the max input length to be the size of the longest street name the lookup might return, no?

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Very nice. How much time do you have in Rome?

Four nights, arrive on the Thursday and leave the Monday evening. I can't believe she kept it secret for so long, she booked it before the summer last year :o


Excellent. We loved it (and Pompeii which is an easy day trip) and you need a few days to see enough of it.

Oh I didn't realise we could visit Pompeii...I don't know if we'll have time mind you, since one day will be taken up with the rugby and general drunken revelry. I can't wait though, it's going to be so beautiful!


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Barclaycard are idiots. Go online to change my address (like I should have done four months ago). Put in the postcode, look up the street address. "Field value is too long, maximum is 23 dharacters. Please abbreviate". But...you looked it up! Why would you set a maximum field length shorter than what YOU JUST FILLED IT IN WITH? Fine. I'll appreviate it. Hit submit. Changes it back to the unabbreviated value and then complains it's too long again.

BARCLAYCARD, YOU'RE FUCKING DUMB.

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That'll be an issue with their source postcode DB though. I can kind of forgive that as they'll be subscribing to a third party service. To autopopulate a field with data that's too long for the field though? That's just ridiculous.

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Our service/install engineers send us shit (usually of their making) and expect us to jump, instead of doing what they know they're supposed to, all the time.

For instance, one just sent a screenshot* with German text on it. So I took a vague guess (because I know a vague amount of German) and followed it up with "I'm not manually transcribing German into Google translate."**

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That'll be an issue with their source postcode DB though. I can kind of forgive that as they'll be subscribing to a third party service. To autopopulate a field with data that's too long for the field though? That's just ridiculous.

It was more the refusal to believe me when I phoned.


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That'll be an issue with their source postcode DB though. I can kind of forgive that as they'll be subscribing to a third party service. To autopopulate a field with data that's too long for the field though? That's just ridiculous.

It was more the refusal to believe me when I phoned.


That happened to me years ago; O2 wouldn't sell me a phone because their system couldn't find my address. It was part of their security checking process that the address had to be in the system so it was a total no-go. They referred me to the Royal Mail, as that's who supplies their address data, and I had to fill out a request for them to add it to their data then wait until O2 got a refresh before anything could go ahead.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits N Bobs 42
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And that's what makes me laugh about Barclaycard. I work for a bank - how well exactly do all your anti-money laundering and fraud checking tools work if you can't even accurately record your customer's address?

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sdg wrote:
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Very nice. How much time do you have in Rome?

Four nights, arrive on the Thursday and leave the Monday evening. I can't believe she kept it secret for so long, she booked it before the summer last year :o


Excellent. We loved it (and Pompeii which is an easy day trip) and you need a few days to see enough of it.

Oh I didn't realise we could visit Pompeii...I don't know if we'll have time mind you, since one day will be taken up with the rugby and general drunken revelry. I can't wait though, it's going to be so beautiful!


Yep, there are organised tours from Rome, but they are pretty expensive and don't give you that much time there - probably 2 hours which is nowhere near enough.
Instead you can do it on the train which is really straightforward.
There's a fast and very modern train from Termini station in Rome down to Napoli which takes about an hour and costs under £50 return if you book in advance. You can do this on http://www.trenitalia.com/ and then you pick your tickets up from one of the machines in the station (which do English) on the day. Once you get to Napoli it's a 3 minute walk to the circumvesuviana line which, and this is being fair to it, is a rattly old heap of crap but it takes you to Pompeii Scavi station in about half an hour.

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That'll be an issue with their source postcode DB though. I can kind of forgive that as they'll be subscribing to a third party service. To autopopulate a field with data that's too long for the field though? That's just ridiculous.

But that's coming from the same third party service. You surely can't expect them to do a count on every possible response?

The fact they've limited it at all is rather odd though, I must confess. Still, they have a few more customers than I do.

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"Hi, $PostcodeDBVendor, we'd like to use your service! I'll assume you can provide us with a web service? Kindly let us know the max length of all your return values, and then we can use that for our input fields when we populate them. Thanks chums! Hurrah for interoperability!"

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This is in the city centre. Totally gonna check that badboy out.


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Also, the number of possible values returned for a full 7 character postcode isn't going to be that big, you could easily find the max. length ;)

The Barclaycard website is shit though, I've not been able to change my contact details on that because it refuses to accept that "Shropshire" is a valid county, despite that being the one returned by the postcode lookup. I can't be arsed to fucking argue with it, I've just left it. Never use the damn thing any more anyway.


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Also, the number of possible values returned for a full 7 character postcode isn't going to be that big, you could easily find the max. length ;)

The Barclaycard website is shit though, I've not been able to change my contact details on that because it refuses to accept that "Shropshire" is a valid county, despite that being the one returned by the postcode lookup. I can't be arsed to fucking argue with it, I've just left it. Never use the damn thing any more anyway.


Same with Leicestershire, I just told them Leicester was in London and they happily believed me.


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Both consoles are locked in with no keys so presumably, they can't change the games? Deal!

You don't play games anyway! :P


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Bow down before my CPC 6128, it has 8GB of storage attached to it:


There's something pleasing about marrying old and new tech. 8GB would feel like almost infinite storage space on an 8-bit machine.


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Bow down before my CPC 6128, it has 8GB of storage attached to it:


There's something pleasing about marrying old and new tech. 8GB would feel like almost infinite storage space on an 8-bit machine.


I think my Amiga has a 2gb flash card and that's more storage than I'll ever use.


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Bow down before my CPC 6128, it has 8GB of storage attached to it:


There's something pleasing about marrying old and new tech. 8GB would feel like almost infinite storage space on an 8-bit machine.


I think my Amiga has a 2gb flash card and that's more storage than I'll ever use.


2GB is easy to fill on an Amiga. I've got a 4gb card and it doesn't have much space free.


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Bow down before my CPC 6128, it has 8GB of storage attached to it:


There's something pleasing about marrying old and new tech. 8GB would feel like almost infinite storage space on an 8-bit machine.


The one downside is that the floppy emulator requires the CPC's DSK images to be converted from 178k per side to 1 meg per side. So you need more space than you might think.

Have also run up against the problem that it can only run as a B drive, which some games dislike.


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chinnyhill10 wrote:
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Bow down before my CPC 6128, it has 8GB of storage attached to it:


There's something pleasing about marrying old and new tech. 8GB would feel like almost infinite storage space on an 8-bit machine.


I think my Amiga has a 2gb flash card and that's more storage than I'll ever use.


2GB is easy to fill on an Amiga. I've got a 4gb card and it doesn't have much space free.


Oh yeah, if you want everything ever released on there it will fill up, but there aren't that many Amiga games that still hold up well enough for regular play.


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Oh yeah, if you want everything ever released on there it will fill up, but there aren't that many Amiga games that still hold up well enough for regular play.


By no means do I have everything ever released. But most notable stuff is on there. If someone mentions a game it's nice to go and actually play it. It's not like you have to worry about the cost increase between a 2GB and 4GB card these days.


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Bow down before my CPC 6128, it has 8GB of storage attached to it:


There's something pleasing about marrying old and new tech. 8GB would feel like almost infinite storage space on an 8-bit machine.


I wouldn't have known what 8GB was back in the day!

It was amazing when I got my 3.5 inch disk drive that formatted to 400k per side (you had a switch on the back which switched sides of the disk as the CPC has no comprehension of a double head drive).


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Noticed clawmarks on my winter coat. When I was a friend's house the other week and it was on the coat rack, their kitten must have started climbing on it and used it to delay his fall.


Hessian bag. Brick. Canal.


That's a bit wasteful. He could give it to a charity shop or something.

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