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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 19:10 
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Ok, I will admit it... for the past two years my number one sport has ceased to be football and has become baseball. Despite never having seen them play in the flesh (they were on the road the week I visited), I am an ardent Toronto Bluejays fan and have a major man-crush on Roy Halladay. I just love all aspects of the game, not just the home runs (in fact they are low down my list). I love watching great pitchers like Halladay, Santana, Peavy and Verlander (and this year Greinke) go to work and baffle the hitters completely. I love watching speedsters like Reyes and Crawford hare around the bases. I love watching great catchers like Yadier Molina try to throw them out. I love the boring stuff like watching hitters show great plate discipline and judgement, taking close pitches for walks and forcing the pitcher to throw the ball in their strong areas, and have resulted a bit of a crush on Joe Mauer this year as a result. And of course, you can't help but get a semi watching someone as regal as Albert Pujols at the plate.

Regular season ends on Sunday, and it's play-off time, so now seemed like a good time to ask... anyone else follow this at all? Anyone else got a horse still in the race? Looks like Yankees, Red Sox, Angels (who I have enjoyed watching a lot this season) and probably Tigers in the American League, and the Cardinals, Phillies, Dodgers and probably Rockies in the National League. If you don't follow it, pick one of those now and start watching!

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I'm an Astros fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee rules hitball
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The Rev Owen wrote:
I'm an Astros fan.

Bugger.

Ouch. Although they look good at times... just a lack of pitching holds them back, it's hard to be consistent without a strong pitching staff.

Gill> nobody, any more :( Channel 5 showed two games a week, Sunday nights and Wednesday nights, from 1997 until the end of last season... then for unknown reasons, they dropped it without any warning. I now subscribe to the MLB.TV service via the official MLB.com website, so I can stream every game live (as I am doing right now with the Twins v Tigers game) or watch them all archived as live. It's a fantastic service, costs just under a tenner a month at current exchange rates, which may sound a lot but remember that baseball teams play damn near every day, so the choice and quantity you get for your money is staggeringly good. /advert

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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
The Rev Owen wrote:
I'm an Astros fan.

Bugger.

Ouch. Although they look good at times... just a lack of pitching holds them back, it's hard to be consistent without a strong pitching staff.

Gill> nobody, any more :( Channel 5 showed two games a week, Sunday nights and Wednesday nights, from 1997 until the end of last season... then for unknown reasons, they dropped it without any warning. I now subscribe to the MLB.TV service via the official MLB.com website, so I can stream every game live (as I am doing right now with the Twins v Tigers game) or watch them all archived as live. It's a fantastic service, costs just under a tenner a month at current exchange rates, which may sound a lot but remember that baseball teams play damn near every day, so the choice and quantity you get for your money is staggeringly good. /advert


If I was already a fan I wouldn't have a problem doing something like that but for me to take up a new sport...


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 Post subject: Re: Yankee rules hitball
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I went to see an Angels game, so by default I am an Angels fan. This was back when they were terrible, so I felt very lucky that they beat the Yankees.

I played Fantasy Baseball with some American friends for a couple of years and really got into the stats and players and stuff. I actually had Roy Halladay on my team, and he was nifty back then, which seems like forever ago. I also had Santana in his first season as a pro... he wasn't quite as good back then. Ah, I remember the halcyon days of having The Big Unit or whatever he was called pitching win after win after win. He must have retired by now, right?

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It's on ESPN.

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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Despite never having seen them play in the flesh (they were on the road the week I visited), I am an ardent Toronto Bluejays fan and have a major man-crush on Roy Halladay.


Are you just saying this to get into my underpants? Because it's working.

I really enjoyed playing it and watching when I was much younger, back in the years leading up to their double pennants. Then I found you entered the age of either not being bothered or being absolutely obsessed with every single stat and I chose to be not so bothered any more.

I've still got a big box of old baseball cards somewhere. I'm sure the gum would be just as brittle and unpleasant too after 20 years.

You need to get The Bigs 2, man. Turn off the 'guaranteed hit' style powerups and you're left with a very solid baseball game with a few jazzed up elements. For some reason the focus is on the 'become a legend' mode while the season mode is hidden away in a submenu but apart from that bit of lunacy I'm enjoying it a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee rules hitball
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Ah, I remember the halcyon days of having The Big Unit or whatever he was called pitching win after win after win. He must have retired by now, right?

Randy Johnson has bounced around a couple of teams and is now with the Giants... his season was cut very short this year after he got a shoulder injury while batting, bizarrely, and really at 45 or so he should be retiring... but he hasn't done so officially, and may very well not do. Jamie Moyer at Philadelphia is 46 now I think and is still pitching 8)

And yes, Roy Halladay has always been nasty... his consistency is what makes him one of the undeniable top 3 in the game, and I don't see that changing any time in the next 5 years at least, health permitting. It looks like he is throwing cannonballs sometimes, the way hitters don't seem to be able to hit the ball any harder than a weak trickle to the infielders.

Steve> I was waiting for you to chime in :p When you posted that picture a while back of you and the lady at the Rogers Centre, I wasn't just putting two and two together and working out where it was, I actually recognised it... I did do the stadium tour lolz, even though I didn't really understand the game at the time. FTR, I saw games at Old Yankee Stadium, Old Shea Stadium and Fenway last September when I went on my hollibops. And I'm still undecided on The Bigs... it just seems too arcade-y, and my attraction to the game is a very "purist" one. I get enough mileage out of Out Of The Park in a statty Champ Manager way to really need to baseball game, although I might give the demo another try, just for you :luv:

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee rules hitball
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You will get utterly trounced at first in The Bigs because you won't know how all the special moves and tricks work, fielding especially you have to be ridiculously fast and accurate (I tend to panic and hit X instead of Y and so throw to third instead of second) and the demo doesn't teach you any of this... the main game does but the manual doesn't tell you it does (while the tutorial game teaches you some, it's in a lot of the minigame modes that you learn how to do all the ridiculous catches and hits and such).

I persevered and more and more things will start to click with you, batting recently did and I ended up demolishing the Giants at home in the way that most other teams had been demolishing me at home up until then.

There are times you'll wish you could turn all the crap off and just play straight baseball (especially the Big Slam, which can turn a game around as the computer is very good at it) but then in its primary market 2K are also trying to sell MLB2k9 so you can see why that option isn't there.

But yeah, I remember my parents and I all dancing around our rec room after watching Joe Carter smash that homer out and win us the World Series.

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee rules hitball
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Shouldn't this thread be titled "Yankee rules rounders"?

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 Post subject: Re: Yankee rules hitball
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End of an Era wrote:
Shouldn't this thread be titled "Yankee rules rounders"?

It was titled to mesh with the "Yankee rules throwball" thread.

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Never got on with baseball...love American Football, and can watch basketball, and would watch Ice Hockey if it was ever on, but baseball?

It doesn't help that all the stats are obtuse. RBI? ERA? Don't know what they mean... Gridiron's stats are laughably simple in comparison... well, apart from QB Rating... but thats easy enough to understand, its just the formula they use for working it out is horribly complex.


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 Post subject: Re: Yankee rules hitball
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The Rev Owen wrote:
I bought a car off an ex-Blue Jays pitcher once.

BJ Ryan tried to sell me a car once... I was tempted, but he couldn't close the deal.

Everyone: that was a very funny joke.

Pundabaya> the stats themselves aren't that complicated, but they do talk entirely in acronyms that you are expected to understand, and it takes some exposure to the game for the penny to drop as to what RBI and ERA and the like stand for and therefore mean (Runs Batted In and Earned Run Average, in case anyone is wondering).

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I don't have room in my life for two games involving bat and ball. The only American 'sports' I really like are IndyCar and NASCAR.

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myp wrote:
I don't have room in my life for two games involving bat and ball

Neither do I, that's why the only cricket I pay any attention to nowadays is England Test matches.

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I get free tickets to matches at Trent Bridge, so I'd rather watch live sport than follow one on the internet. ;)

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You're lying anyway... you like wrestling too :p

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That's not a sport. :P

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I find baseball painfully slow whenever I catch it on TV. I do, however, love the basketball, and on Tuesday I'm going to the O2 to see the Jazz vs the Bulls! Fuck yeah!

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Grim... wrote:
I find baseball painfully slow whenever I catch it on TV. I do, however, love the basketball, and on Tuesday I'm going to the O2 to see the Jazz vs the Bulls! Fuck yeah!

Is that an exhibition, or a regular season game? I really don't follow basketball at all, although I almost got into it in Vegas when the Lakers were playing the Magic and the owner of the Lakers joined in our private H.O.R.S.E. game :D

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i hate watching basketball (too many points), but love watching the slowness of baseball and reading the old stories. Last month i went to see Holland v Venezuela at the baseball worldcup in Haarlem, great atmosphere (3500 men), lovely game, you could get very close.
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c) you can't support the yankees, can you

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c) you can't support the yankees, can you

You can, but you can't look at yourself in the mirror any more.

I quite like the Mets, I have semi-adopted them as my NL team after having a great night at Shea during their last September choking fit... they lost to the Cubs in extra innings after somehow failing to get the winning run home in the bottom of the 9th despite a lead-off triple :S It made me weep a little for the actual Mets fans. Unfortunately they have just had too many injuries this season to be that entertaining to watch, so I have largely ignored them, which is a shame... a team with Reyes, Wright, Beltran and Delgado (and Santana on the mound) is always good to watch.

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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I find baseball painfully slow whenever I catch it on TV. I do, however, love the basketball, and on Tuesday I'm going to the O2 to see the Jazz vs the Bulls! Fuck yeah!

Is that an exhibition, or a regular season game?

I don't know, to be honest.

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Why the hate for the Yankees? Is it because chavs wear their hats?

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I'll take the Yankees over the Mets any day of the week.

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myp wrote:
Why the hate for the Yankees? Is it because chavs wear their hats?

They're the baseball equivalent of Man U, aren't they?

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myp wrote:
Why the hate for the Yankees? Is it because chavs wear their hats?

Partly. That is a symptom though, not the problem itself. It is basically because they have twice as big a payroll as any other club in major league baseball, so can afford to splash out on all the star players when they are out of contract; they are essentially seen as the face of "big business" in what is a very traditional game. So they distort the game somewhat with their purchasing power (at least there are a few teams at it in the Premier League), and it doesn't help that they have a rude and generally dislikeable owner. And New Yorkers themselves can be a little pushy and disagreeable, and this "New York" attitude tends to be typified and exaggerated amongst Yankee fans (both personal and anecdotal experience back me up here).

However, while all of that is true, I will concede that the primary motivation for the Yankee hatred is simply jealousy, since they have been the most successful club of recent years... the biggest Yankee hating is found among Mets fans (local rivalry) and Red Sox fans (biggest rivals in the division), and is a lot milder elsewhere, so meh. Personally, it is the imbalance caused by the spending power that makes me hate them, in the same way I find the Premier League pretty abhorent now. But different people will have different bug bears about them.

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You need to get The Bigs 2, man. Turn off the 'guaranteed hit' style powerups and you're left with a very solid baseball game with a few jazzed up elements. For some reason the focus is on the 'become a legend' mode while the season mode is hidden away in a submenu but apart from that bit of lunacy I'm enjoying it a lot.

The main problem with The Bigs 2 is that you can't give yourself a mullet. What the fuck is the point of a baseball game in which you can't have a fucking mullet?

Also: it made me start referring to myself in the third person as "Big Dog", but that's a feature not a bug.

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