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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:56 
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I honestly felt Kobolds & Cata had calmed aggro/tempo down a bit, especially with Priest having such powerful early game with cards such as Duskbreaker. And then you've got Warlock generating five million taunts and Doomguards early game(ish) with all their new Demon shenanigans.

My fear now is that Cubelock will run rampant, as fast/tempo decks were one of the few archetypes that could take them out, and even then not consistently.

Corridor Creeper needed nerfing though, ridiculous card.

Bonemare will still work in slow decks, it'll just stop being a viable 'high end' choice for fast/tempo decks.

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Next set of massive changes

https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/21534739

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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Quicker quests is a good thing, but to be honest, i'm way past the point where i can keep up with this. Also, unlike Eternal, the HS android app takes way too much space on my phone and runs too slow.

And they should have introduced ranking play for Arena already. At least we would get the feeling we were playing for something else than just cards and gold.


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Quite happy to see the back of Coldlight Oracle, mill decks are just incredibly unfun and annoying to play against. Destroying large chunks of your opponent's deck is a stunningly negative gameplan really.

Ice Block change kills Freeze Mage and other associated Mage decks that rely on the 'extra life' mechanic. I quite enjoy playing as Freeze Mage but must acknowledge I don't like playing against it at all.

I still play the game daily and keep up with my quests, but I'm not as into it as I used to be.

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Quite happy to see the back of Coldlight Oracle, mill decks are just incredibly unfun and annoying to play against. Destroying large chunks of your opponent's deck is a stunningly negative gameplan really.


And yet they added cards in the last time to kill the 'top' card on the opponents deck

https://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/62852-gnomeferatu

If your deciding that's a bad mechanic why make cards specifically for it ?

FYI i don't have any mill decks and have played against a lot of them recently (the Rogue deck with the weapon that retains its powers - the decks whole purpose seems to be get the weapon and burn it up quickly then redraw it quickly) - yes frustrating but i have had a lot of decks using coldlight as its the best card draw mechanic for a lot of classes


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:59 
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Quite happy to see the back of Coldlight Oracle, mill decks are just incredibly unfun and annoying to play against. Destroying large chunks of your opponent's deck is a stunningly negative gameplan really.


And yet they added cards in the last time to kill the 'top' card on the opponents deck

https://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/62852-gnomeferatu

If your deciding that's a bad mechanic why make cards specifically for it ?

FYI i don't have any mill decks and have played against a lot of them recently (the Rogue deck with the weapon that retains its powers - the decks whole purpose seems to be get the weapon and burn it up quickly then redraw it quickly) - yes frustrating but i have had a lot of decks using coldlight as its the best card draw mechanic for a lot of classes


I use to love running Mill decks on Magic:The Gathering just to see the opponents face when i made him draw 100 cards at once. Prosperity Bloom deck was amazing in this regard, but what's the point in doing it when you can't see your opponents face?


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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And yet they added cards in the last time to kill the 'top' card on the opponents deck

https://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/62852-gnomeferatu

If your deciding that's a bad mechanic why make cards specifically for it ?

FYI i don't have any mill decks and have played against a lot of them recently (the Rogue deck with the weapon that retains its powers - the decks whole purpose seems to be get the weapon and burn it up quickly then redraw it quickly) - yes frustrating but i have had a lot of decks using coldlight as its the best card draw mechanic for a lot of classes


Gnomeferatu only destroys one card, and there'll be a max of two of them getting played.

The issue with Coldlight is you can destroy chunks of an opponent's deck at a stroke, and it synergises so well with other Rogue cards such as Vanish, Shadowstep and Cheat Death.

For the record I'm not a big fan of Gnomeferatu either but it's a pretty crap card and very few folks run it.

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"Gnomeferatu" - eheh, sometimes i do miss this game after all.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 17:33 
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RuySan wrote:
An interesting outlook on the possibility of true F2P of the most popular card games:

https://rngeternal.com/2017/10/01/going ... t-to-play/

Unsurprisingly Eternal is the most generous while HS is the most stingy. Everytime i tried to get back at HS i just bounced back from how far i am in the expansion curve. It's getting into MTG levels of ridiculousness.

Eternal right now is really F2P, and way more fun.



I decided to take a look at Eternal on reading your post.

39 gaming hours later you could say that I like it. Thanks for the tip, so much fun and unlike Hearthstone nothing drives me to the point of insanity (so far).

Also have a really card large collection already and only purchased the single player adventures (because I was impatient).

You can tell it is heavily influenced by Hearthstone but they took all the annoying stuff out and added some better stuff. Still missing a global emote block though sadly.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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Nemmie wrote:
RuySan wrote:
An interesting outlook on the possibility of true F2P of the most popular card games:

https://rngeternal.com/2017/10/01/going ... t-to-play/

Unsurprisingly Eternal is the most generous while HS is the most stingy. Everytime i tried to get back at HS i just bounced back from how far i am in the expansion curve. It's getting into MTG levels of ridiculousness.

Eternal right now is really F2P, and way more fun.



I decided to take a look at Eternal on reading your post.

39 gaming hours later you could say that I like it. Thanks for the tip, so much fun and unlike Hearthstone nothing drives me to the point of insanity (so far).

Also have a really card large collection already and only purchased the single player adventures (because I was impatient).

You can tell it is heavily influenced by Hearthstone but they took all the annoying stuff out and added some better stuff. Still missing a global emote block though sadly.


I already gotten more people into it. I may be annoying but the game doesn't have a big publisher behind it and doesn't get much coverage. But it has a very healthy player count, so i suppose it's mostly through word of mouth. The game is also very generous in giving out packs.

I love drafting, which is much closer to MTG, and so much better than HS's arena.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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The thing for me is that I'm just so heavily invested in Hearthstone in terms of time and money, that I'd find it a massive wrench to move to something else, and I don't want to have to try to 'maintain' two CCGs at the same time.

I've been successfully freeloading the game for several expansions now, and my card collection is mostly 'complete' insofar as I have pretty much all the cards I want and can play any deck I want. (That said I've had to skip a couple of archetypes this expansion, that horrible fucking Demon Warlock deck that's soul-destroying to play against spring to mind, and I'm missing four (!) legendaries for that deck anyway.)

I spent all my gold on packs at the start of the current expansion so it'll be interesting to see how much I've managed to accumulate by the time the next one launches, but even right now I have 6150 gold so if the expansion dropped tomorrow I could get 61 free packs. (I suspect they'll be announcing it pretty soon, I'm estimating I'll have around 7500 gold by the time it launches, TBH I don't get the argument that Hearthstone is 'stingy' with packs, you just need to keep on top of your quests and Tavern Brawls and keep an eye on any other goodies, everyone got three free packs a couple of days ago, for example.)

That Eternal does look pretty good though.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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The thing about Eternal is that in a week I have 70% of the cards and I have only bought two single player adventures with real money. (£7 each)

They throw packs and cards at you. For instance for each win you are granted a card and for every three wins you get a bonus (more gold, better card, free pack)

Make the jump while it is easy, you won't regret it.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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The thing for me is that I'm just so heavily invested in Hearthstone in terms of time and money, that I'd find it a massive wrench to move to something else, and I don't want to have to try to 'maintain' two CCGs at the same time.

I've been successfully freeloading the game for several expansions now, and my card collection is mostly 'complete' insofar as I have pretty much all the cards I want and can play any deck I want. (That said I've had to skip a couple of archetypes this expansion, that horrible fucking Demon Warlock deck that's soul-destroying to play against spring to mind, and I'm missing four (!) legendaries for that deck anyway.)

I spent all my gold on packs at the start of the current expansion so it'll be interesting to see how much I've managed to accumulate by the time the next one launches, but even right now I have 6150 gold so if the expansion dropped tomorrow I could get 61 free packs. (I suspect they'll be announcing it pretty soon, I'm estimating I'll have around 7500 gold by the time it launches, TBH I don't get the argument that Hearthstone is 'stingy' with packs, you just need to keep on top of your quests and Tavern Brawls and keep an eye on any other goodies, everyone got three free packs a couple of days ago, for example.)

That Eternal does look pretty good though.


I know how you feel, and i also know many people who couldn't move on to other games because of all the time they've invested in one (usually WoW or Fifa). If it stops being fun what's the point? Besides, Eternal is very generous that you can play both that and HS.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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Times you get cards in Eternal

When you level up from playing cards of a certain type.
When you beat someone (every third win you get a larger reward)
From daily tasks
Any cards drafted in the two different draft type tournaments (one versus PC and one versus people) are added to your collection.
From adventures (can be bought with gold which is also given very generously)
From going through the levels of each of the various modes
Free theme decks every few days which you also get to keep permanently.
From the one player gauntlet mode (vs progressively harder AI until you lose or win the gauntlet)

There might be more but as you can tell Eternal is accessible to all and the more you play the faster your collection fills up!

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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One thing that I love about Eternal is events. HS is all about boring laddering, and not even Arena has a ranking system. In eternal, every now and then there's events, with special prizes and rules, that run for 4-5 days with final rankings. Tavern Brawl from HS doesn't even compare to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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New expansion announced

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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I'll give the next expansion a decent crack of the whip but TBH if the power-level of certain decks and the utter helplessness of playing against them if you have the wrong deck for the matchup continues, I may go elsewhere. (Eternal looks interesting.)

I've actually moved to Wild in Hearthstone recently, to get a greater variety of decks to play against.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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So the pre-purchase offer is up now and I've currently got enough gold for £45 worth of cards. (They're offering 70 packs for £44.99, as 50 packs plus 20 'bonus' packs. I have 7000 gold which buys 70 packs.)

The expansion isn't here yet so I'll basically be talking about £50 worth of free cards by the time it launches. (I still reckon I'll 7500+ gold by launch date.)

I spent all my gold on packs for the last expansion, so this is now a good example of how many free packs you can earn between expansions just by doing daily quests.

75 packs should be about right TBH to get a decent spread of cards and enough dust to craft missing cards, depending on how blatantly arseholeish Billzard decide to be in making key cards for the best archetypes epic or legendary quality, which they were proper cunty on with the last expansion - so we'll see.

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So here's where I ended up on expansion launch day, a total of 89 free packs including packs earned on the bonus quest days leading up to the release, and 3 packs for logging in on release day.

Real world value of about £90.

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10 legendaries in 89 packs, including a reasonable chunk of the good ones. On average luck I should have only got 5, can't complain about that.

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10 legendaries in 89 packs, including a reasonable chunk of the good ones. On average luck I should have only got 5, can't complain about that.


I was on last night and kept getting popups at the bottom about all the legendaries you were opening (given the timing you either had 2 in one pack or 2 in consecutive packs).

I had about 20 packs for gold / the freebies and got 2 legiondaries the priest one that sets all your minions attack and health to the same and the clone one that duplicates a card in your opponents deck.

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I got four legendaries in five packs, it was tremendously exciting.

Did pretty well on the epics too, and have ended up with over 10,000 dust so looking pretty good to get myself set up nicely in the new expansion. I'll wait for the meta to settle a bit before getting my crafting hat on though.

The game is a total freeroll with a bit of discipline on daily quests.

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New expansion seems pretty good so far, the meta has been really well shaken up by the rotation of three sets of cards out of Standard format, and of course the new set rotating in.

Currently enjoying playing Even Cards Only Shaman, and BAKU FACE HUNTER which is dirty as fuck but got a quest done very quickly yesterday.

Haven't had to craft much so far but needed a legendary for BAKU FACE HUNTER (Baku himself) and two epics for Even Cards Only Shaman (Corpsetaker, which somehow I got none of in 89 packs).

I've played this game every day for over four years :nerd:

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Most of my decks lost a lot of basic cards so i ditched all my pre made stuff and the only one i'm playing right now is a varient of 'big' Priest.

Basically only a few 'big' spells and a few cards to do stuff for them - the 6 minion summon card (so it draws a spell and then summons a creature of the same mana) , and the 8 minion card that pulls a spell and casts it randomly

I did have a deck like this i was using before with Cthun cards in there but those are all gone - the echo is an interesting feature but i feel i've hardly touched any of the new features on here.

Had a very very strange game against a shamen using one of the new cards that replayed all battlecrys and he played another minion first that doubled them which just gave a few minutes of very random things going off multiple times but at the end of it all i was still standing so hit him in the face :-)


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Pretty impressive although I suspect they're playing with the 'Rank 5 Cushion' there as I can't imagine that deck to be consistent. (i.e. If they lose they can't drop below Rank 5.)

I'm enjoying playing EVEN SHAMAN as it seems to have a very good match up against BAKU FACE HUNTER which is a seriously dirty face deck which gives the Hunter hero power 3 damage to face for 2 mana.

EVEN SHAMAN gets the hero power reduced to 1 mana so you can always get a totem out on Turn 1 if nothing else, and it often manages to control down the Hunter from there. Plus it has some Lifesteal cards as well which can help to counteract the BAKU FACE HUNTER hero power.


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After looking at various decks last night i recreated by Rogue quest one with a few of the new cards in to swap out for old stuff - a few games (at the level 20 mark) and it does look like you can get the 5 minions out by turn 5 and then get your crystal core online to hit them in the face for lots

It does at least give me another deck to play other than priest - i do have dust to make a few more of the missing legendaries but i'll need to decide what ones to create (the Warrior quest one with the Odd power up minion also looks interesting)


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
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Hey things seem a little unballanced after the last update - should we carefully tweak one or two cards and see if we can settle things down ?
No lets ignore it for a month then nerf a bunch of cards all at once !

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As daft as it sounds, and despite having been playing the game for nearly 4 1/2 years, I've only ever had one normal Kirin Tor Mage, and one golden Kirin Tor Mage. (Both of which I got out of packs fairly early on in my Hearthstone career.)

Kirin Tor Mage is a card from the 'classic' set, i.e. it's been in the game for all of those 4 1/2 years, and can still be crafted freely, or opened in a classic pack.

However, since I had one normal and one golden, I had the two required to put into a deck. (Yes I could have just disenchanted the golden, and then used the 100 dust to craft a normal, but I thought I'd see how it long it'd take to get the other normal.)

After doing the Tavern Brawl this week, (which awards a classic pack), I finally got the second Kirin Tor Mage, so I was able to disenchant the golden, get the 100 dust (and keep it!), and have two matching normal Kirin Tor Mages in my Mage decks that utilise them. (There's no difference between a golden and normal in terms of how good they are, goldens just look fancier.)

Just seems odd that I can get a 'new' classic card after 4 1/2 years of play, and after having opened some 300 classic packs or more. (And just a basic rare card, at that.)

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Next expansion announced for an August 7th release, with a couple of pre-purchase bundle offers at £45 and £70 (!).

I reckon I'll have about 8000 gold by then so it'll be another freeroll expansion for me.

Keeping up with daily quests but that's about it TBH, not tending to get massively involved now that the PS4 is taking up most of my videogame time, although Hearthstone is still a nice option for a 10-30 minute session here and there.

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98 free packs, not too shabby.

Would cost just over £100 if bought with REAL CASH MONIES.

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Motherfucker!

I like playing Tempo Mage decks, this hurts.

(Although it's probably needed TBH, since there are so many cheap spells in the game now.)

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Apparently PC Gamer just leaked some details on the new expansion: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/co ... _leak_the/

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It's not really much of a leak when they release the things like clockwork and everything is based on WoW type stuff, and it's due next month anyway.

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I don't understand what those folks are getting excited about, is what I'm saying, Blizzard are probably going to tell everyone at Blizzcon anyway.

In fact, I can EXCLUSIVELY LEAK that there will be a theme for the expansion couched in Warcraft lore, and that Blizzard are going to be total cunts about making key cards for all the new archetypes Epic or Legendary rarity so that they make big piles of cash. *


* Even I can't keep up with all the decks I want to play now, as they're so blatantly walling stuff off behind the rarities in a way they didn't in the past.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 17:05 
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Hearthstone is crap, I saw a Youtube video saying that it takes too long to build decks and the animations are too fast. Despite all the many videos saying how good it is I choose to believe this one as it reinforces my worldview.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 17:59 
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That's the spirit! I hereby promote you to Hearthly Initiate Level 1.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:19 
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Six free packs if you log in today! Also an enriched period of quests which offer an extra 500 gold on top of normal quests.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone thread
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 19:36 
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Having diligently saved gold for the last four months I've managed 92 free packs for the new expansion this time.

Would cost £100 in real cash.

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