What about good games that could only exist by using VR?

I can think of examples that could be improved by VR, but can't think of any "VR Only" games.

I hope it dies on its arse. But then I don't want VR, or other stupid gimmicks. I just want good games

Well we don't know yet. That's how new hardware works. There weren't many games using analogue sticks in 1990 either, but that doesn't make the analogue stick a gimmick.

They weren't a new concept at all, they just became more popular from the PS1 era onwards.

There weren't many games using analogue sticks in 1990 either

Much like how Gamergaters think creating diverse games for all sorts of different demographics will stop their boobs n' splosions games being made.

HOLY SHIT IS THAT A THING?!

/signs up

I played the Tomb Raider reboot in 3D without buying anything 'honkingly expensive', I just plugged my PC into my 3D TV and it just worked. Frankly it looked fucking amazing and I wish more games supported it.

You were playing one of them last night you buffoon!

VR is an old technology too. It died on its arse the last time, and I don't see how they've actually sorted out the issues that scuppered it the last time. (Looking like a prick, massive headaches, not remotely working for people with relatively minor vision issues). I mean, looking like a prick has been enough to scupper home 3D tv on its own.

That's all a load of nonsense surely? The stuff about VR and 3D.

That's all a load of nonsense surely? The stuff about VR and 3D.

Nobody looks good in 3D specs. Not even me.

Quite.

The difference between old VR and new VR is that this time it's fucking incredible.

Can I ask a silly question? So this Rift thing, yeah? That's not the question, by the way. This Rift thing do you "see" in "3D" or is it like the Google box thing where it just sorta tracks your movements? That was the question.

Apart from you still have to wear a computer on your head with a load of wires coming out of it, still look really daft, are still incapable of sharing the experience with anyone else around you in any meaningful sense, and are still being the most anti-social arseface in the general vicinity.

It's like those Tomy-Tronic 3D things, but with better graphics.

I'm sure OR rift is fantastic technology, but I can't see it gaining any sort of mainstream traction whilst the user is required to lock themselves out from the rest of the world to use it.

I played the Tomb Raider reboot in 3D without buying anything 'honkingly expensive', I just plugged my PC into my 3D TV and it just worked. Frankly it looked fucking amazing and I wish more games supported it.

Can I ask a silly question? So this Rift thing, yeah? That's not the question, by the way. This Rift thing do you "see" in "3D" or is it like the Google box thing where it just sorta tracks your movements? That was the question.

Really? how did you do that?

I say that because the only way I could find to get my Nvidia GPUs to work in 3D on a TV was to buy Nvidia's app for $35 or so

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-overview.html

And when installed you find out it's locked to 24 FPS, completely and totally ruining the experience.

If there's another way I would be interested to hear it?

When mentioning prices I was talking about when it released. A 120hz monitor cost over three times as much as a regular 1080p 60hz one. Now? lol they can't even give it away.

I've no idea why you needed [...] some special monitor

I've no idea why you needed an app and some special monitor, I just HDMId my PC (some relatively crappy AMD card) to the TV as it always is and choose 3D from the game's options. Done. I don't even know what refresh rate my TV is, not convinced it's 120Hz though.

If you're running active 3D

Would a rollercoaster ride be long enough to cause those sorts of problems? I mean if rollercoasters went on for as long as most VR experiences do then people would probably be vomiting regardless.

Yes, VR motion sickness can come on in seconds in my experience. One bad disconnect between brain and body is all it takes if you are susceptible.

Would a rollercoaster ride be long enough to cause those sorts of problems? I mean if rollercoasters went on for as long as most VR experiences do then people would probably be vomiting regardless.

I've found that getting older has made me a lot more sensitive to things like motion sickness, feelings of nausea, headaches from flashing lights, eye strain etc.

VR does sound quite exciting but I fear I may be too old by the time it gets good...

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