PCVR

myp · **Posted:** Sun Apr 05, 2020 18:29

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

It’s definitely still in beta. I’ve had some glitches, usually caused by it getting stuck in some weird state, usually requiring either killing stuff in task manager or restating the Pc, the Quest, or both. But yeah - by and large it’s great and I don’t regret getting the Quest rather than the Rift S at all.

Tbh I have issues like that with my CV1. For example, I paused HLA and went out to the menu so I could take a screenshot of my very mature whiteboard content and when I went back in it was the generic white grid that you get when a game is loading. It was mirroring onto my monitor but I couldn’t get it working again without a reboot!

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32618

DavPaz wrote:

Gaz and Doc, 64 or 128?

64 for me.

I decided there wasn’t enough in the larger one to justify the extra £100. You lose maybe 7.5 Gb to system stuff. But most games I’ve looked at seem to be hundreds of megs or a few GB at most. The 64 Gb one goes a long way.

The 128 is so rarely in stock it basically doesn’t exist right now, mind.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

I know I'm talking to an audience of exactly one here (and that one, is me) but I managed to fix a persistent battery drain issue with the WMR controllers by dissembling and cleaning the battery contacts. Recodring for posterity.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsMR/comm ... d_results/

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

DavPaz wrote:

I've been pondering VR over that few days since having a go on the Dave's Vive (and after a conversation with DocG about the Google Daydream) and I reckon I can see where it's going. Here's my prediction of were we'll be in ooohh, 3 years.

- Self contained, wireless headset. All processing done on the unit itself. We all know that graphics chips are chewing along at an amazing rate, so how long before there's a mobile GPU that can do 90fps at 4k? Not long I reckon. The headset will need to more like a pair of specs. Think of those big old Asian-Grandma sunglasses that fit over other specs. Or Imax 3D glasses. Probably with built in headphones
- Courtesy screen tethering. Think Chromecast. Sync the technohat up to an HDMI dongle so others can watch.
- Full body tracking. Think Kinect. There was a moment when Curio was dodging his legs out of the way of lasers. Imagine if you *had* to. This might require more active cameras, but if they're similar to the the little satellites that the vive uses... it could work.
- Local mutiplayer. Self contained units and full body tracking means local multiplayer. Even if it's in another room.
- Some sort of glove controller. Even if it's only one hand. It would open up a world of puzzles.

There's my prediction. Remind me in 3 years to see if I was right, would you?

edit: I forgot haptics. Even a subtle feedback is awesome. The lightsabers humming in your hand was awesome

Hey look at this prediction stuff. I predicted the Quest!

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

Managed to get the kids to try something other than Job Simulator yesterday. We played Waltz of the Wizard.

Well, I say we played it, but it was mainly me as it was "a bit creepy". We had fun roaming around the maze in one of the subgames, but as soon as the 'scary knight' appeared around the corner all three of us shared a collective pants-shitting moment.

Back to Job Simulator!

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1035 ... Forces_VR/

Galaxy Forces VR now free on Steam

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16517

VTOL VR seems amazing so far:

Only just getting into it as you can see, but it's definitely the best flight sim type of thing I've come across and up there with the best VR experiences i've had. Made by a single developer as well.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

So Far Cry 3 in VR is now A Thing, albeit only in the sort of VR arcade places that a bunch of us played in Nottingham one time before the apocalypse:

https://www.engadget.com/far-cry-vr-div ... 23034.html

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

Well, that looks excellent

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:35

Oculus Quest 2 now available for pre-order. £299 for the 64GB version, £399 for 256GB.

Snapdragon XR2, a significant improvement on the 835 in the original Quest.

4K resolution (well, almost)

90hz refresh rate (available later in the year, pegged to 72 like the original Quest at the moment)

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:37

It has been an expensive week

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

The new consoles can wait, but I am SORELY tempted to get a Quest 2.

Where are we preordering from, cool kids?

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:47

This IS interesting! I don't have any VR stuff at the moment (apart from the Virtual Boy) so this could get me on that wagon.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16517

Do Facebook have rule like Sony for PS4/PS4 Pro where titles can be optimised but still need to run on the old headset? If not that seems like a mightly short useful lifespan for non-pc-owning Quest 1 buyers.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:34

DavPaz wrote:

The new consoles can wait, but I am SORELY tempted to get a Quest 2.

Where are we preordering from, cool kids?

I got mine from Oculus. Note that you can get a "good enough" link cable from Amazon for £13.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MZIPYPY/

GazChap · **Posted:** Mon Sep 21, 2020 19:25

I’ve also now preordered a Quest 2.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:34

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

GazChap wrote:

I’ve also now preordered a Quest 2.

Gaz! Sell me your Quest 1 for £100

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22197

DavPaz wrote:

GazChap wrote:

I’ve also now preordered a Quest 2.

Gaz! Sell me your Quest 1 for £100

No, sell it to me for £90!

GazChap · **Posted:** Tue Sep 22, 2020 18:45

£180 and we've got a deal

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

GazChap wrote:

£180 and we've got a deal

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22197

£80, final offer

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

GazChap wrote:

£180 and we've got a deal

£130?

GazChap · **Posted:** Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:53

DavPaz wrote:

GazChap wrote:

£180 and we've got a deal

£130?

Nah - it’s a 128GB one, they’re going for about £220 on fleaBay.

Not entirely convinced I want to sell it yet tbh, the kids have expressed an interest in VR so I’m considering it as a headset for them to use too

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

Fair enough. It was worth a punt

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:22

Just wait for Gaywood's legendary FOMO to kick in.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

I'm counting the days

myp · **Posted:** Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:46

I was tempted by the Index but it doesn’t seem to play well with iRacing at the moment without hacking, so I’m tempted by the HP Reverb G2. I’ll still have the Rift for room scale.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

Pretty sure the G2 does room scale, bud.

myp · **Posted:** Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:25

DavPaz wrote:

Pretty sure the G2 does room scale, bud.

Yeah but I’ll probably just get the headset only.

I’m trying to move away from Oculus anyway at some point. Deeper Facebook integration is coming in the next few years.

GazChap · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:13

MS Flight Simulator was updated to support VR yesterday.

Apparently even with a top-of-the-line CPU and the RTX 3080 people are struggling to get over 40 frames per second

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16517

Honestly not sure how. I don't have all that and it runs really well. However I do understand that trying to keep everything set high or ultra would be fucking idiotic.

myp · **Posted:** Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:49

GazChap wrote:

MS Flight Simulator was updated to support VR yesterday.

Apparently even with a top-of-the-line CPU and the RTX 3080 people are struggling to get over 40 frames per second

Same issue happened in iRacing back in 2015/16 when they enabled VR. Took a while until they optimised it.

TommyJ · **Joined:** 27th Nov, 2020 **Posts:** 9

All these inventions to escape from reality are both cool and strange at the same time. Yes, now, when not everyone can travel, it makes sense. But other times ... You have an entire planet to do something interesting. Expensive car racing simulators look especially strange to me. Many of these things are more expensive than you might think. The guys in Top Gear showed excellent how you can participate in real races with such a budget.
On the other hand, when you want to try a lot, modern computers and VR glasses allow you to try more on a tight budget.
Are there any good realistic games for those who want to feel like a space engineer?

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25423

TommyJ arriving in a thread:

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2021 18:35

Adrift is kinda Spacey.

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:49

Grim... wrote:

Just wait for Gaywood's legendary FOMO to kick in.

I suspect he’s planning on having his garden dug down to the Earth’s core to have a magma barbecue feature made. Amirite?

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jan 07, 2021 15:25

TommyJ wrote:

The guys in Top Gear showed excellent how you can participate in real races with such a budget.

For a day. Even the cheaper motorsports are incredibly expensive.

TommyJ wrote:

Are there any good realistic games for those who want to feel like a space engineer?

Kerbal Space Planet, obviously. Or - reaching a bit with this one admittedly - Space Engineers?

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4269

Mimi wrote:

TommyJ arriving in a thread:

love this

Dimrill · **Posted:** Thu Jan 07, 2021 15:53

https://store.steampowered.com/app/8646 ... Simulator/

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Jan 07, 2021 16:40

Johnny 5!

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:35

Grim... wrote:

TommyJ wrote:

The guys in Top Gear showed excellent how you can participate in real races with such a budget.

For a day. Even the cheaper motorsports are incredibly expensive.

TommyJ wrote:

Are there any good realistic games for those who want to feel like a space engineer?

Kerbal Space Planet, obviously. Or - reaching a bit with this one admittedly - Space Engineers?

Oh, on vr Vs real racing, bad obsession Motorsport have done a good series about it where they race in the city car cup.

Sir Taxalot · **Joined:** 5th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 4633

Mr Dave wrote:

Adrift is kinda Spacey.

Also kinda boring too tho

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

Only went and got me an Oculus Quest 2

GazChap · **Posted:** Sat Sep 04, 2021 19:36

DavPaz wrote:

Only went and got me an Oculus Quest 2

Good man.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

Air Link works really really well. Glad I didn't spend £80 on a fancy cable!

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

After a bit of observation I think i can see where the Elite Strap for the Q2 is flawed in it's design.

Where it connects to the mounting points on the headset, the plastic arms seem to be constantly twisted by about 5 or so degrees as the human head (even normal sized ones) get wider behind the eye sockets. I guess the original plastic wasn't great under the tearing force of constant torsion.

Just a theory

GazChap · **Posted:** Tue Sep 07, 2021 13:46

DavPaz wrote:

constantly twisted by about 5 or so degrees as the human head (even normal sized ones)

I love the fact that you either included that last bit because you anticipated jokes about it, or (and actually I guess this one is a bit of a pisser) you're used to the idea that you have a ginormous* bonce and just consider it a part of you now.

* when it isn't even really that big

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38374

A little from column A...

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16517

We should have a bonce-off. I have to buy either L or XL hats and often find that one size fits all doesn't fit. As for those paper hats in crackers, forget it but I don't mind that so much.

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