It's crap.

We all went back to Battlefield 4.

If you have a 4k screen get a 1x. 4k on it is marvellous from 15-20ft away seriously at that distance it looks every bit as good as a £1000 GPU spitting it out.

It's crap.

We all went back to Battlefield 4.

I think you'd struggle to tell 480p apart from 4k at 20 feet.

It's a 55" TV man. I can tell the difference between 4k and 1080p, as 4k has practically no jagglies at all. 1080p glistens and sparkles with the rough edges. I guess I could put up with it though, if I was playing a game I really liked. What did surprise me was how I couldn't even tell I was playing at sub 30 FPS, over the 70 I play at on PC. Then again I have never been a "60 FPS or die" sort of person as I tend to like slower paced games so for me that part of it doesn't matter.

I think you'd struggle to tell 480p apart from 4k at 20 feet.

How big is the living room in the cottage? Those SNES games looked great on that TV from outside the front window.

I want to say 60".

I want to say 60".

How big is the living room in the cottage? Those SNES games looked great on that TV from outside the front window.

(GOLD!)

That is how it is. Up on a fireplace, and I am about 2ft forward of my playing position. I can tell the difference between 1080p and 4k.

If you have a 4k screen get a 1x. 4k on it is marvellous from 15-20ft away

I don't think it is that simple when we're talking about videogame graphics. I get what John is saying about jaggies being far more noticeable at 1080p and can believe that the sorts of shimmering effects that aliasing can create would still be apparent from further away than you would be able to discern any difference in a film or a photograph displayed at 4K. Certainly these effects don't all simply disappear when I walk across the room from my 42" 1080 TV.

It's possible the image quality is better in other ways at 4K as well, for example Forza Horizon 4 has more effects turned on in 4K mode than 1080 mode. That sort of thing would be visible from across the room.

It's not just down to the raw pixel count.

That's interesting, you see, I didn't think the Xbox One pad was as 'solid' as the 360 pad but there you go.

That's interesting, you see, I didn't think the Xbox One pad was as 'solid' as the 360 pad but there you go.

Also, you'll want to plug it in before Christmas as it'll have a shit load of updating to do. If you're not a live subscriber too, you'll have some free games to download as well.

Can't be having the 'kids' waiting on Christmas day, can we?

FIFTY FUCKING DAYS.

There's only so much fun you can have with a Fire Stick

And the roughly 500 bazillion pounds worth of other gaming stuff you have lying around the place.

The XB1X (Xbix from now on) was delivered over the weekend. Sadly, as I've designated it a 'family Christmas present' I can't break it out and play with it for FIFTY FUCKING DAYS. What a numpty.

You could have brung it here!

Quick question, seasoned users...

The kids have local, non-live gamertags on the 360. I'd like to move them over to the Xbix without having to join them to Xbox Live. Anyone know if this is even possible?

Have their gamer tags ever been online?

Then you might struggle. Is the console connected online at all?

What happens when you log in here with their details? Do they have emails associated with them?

https://account.microsoft.com/

Yeah, looks that way. Do they need them or could they start afresh?

Yeah, I agree. I'm not sure but you could always sign up for Xbox live for a month, upload the profiles there and then you should be able to download them to the Xbox One... I think?!?

They still do the family account so you'd be able to look after them.

https://account.microsoft.com/family/

Worth a try although, I have no experience of it myself.