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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:19 
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I always have enough single player games that I'm unlikely to play again that freeing up space is easy.
500 GB is tough, especially when you share your PS4 with someone else. Our games-we-often-play-online working set must be 2-300 GB, right? GTA is 65-70 GB alone I think.

I suspect 1 TB is reasonable though. I've never deleted anything since putting in my 2 TB drive a year or so ago, so I probably over-ordered a little bit.


Traditionally I'd have precisely one game installed at any given time so even 500GB was overkill. With the advent of PSVR though I keep everything installed for the sake of other people coming round to play with it, but even at that I'm still nowhere near hitting the 1TB limit.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:21 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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I always have enough single player games that I'm unlikely to play again that freeing up space is easy.
500 GB is tough, especially when you share your PS4 with someone else. Our games-we-often-play-online working set must be 2-300 GB, right? GTA is 65-70 GB alone I think.

I suspect 1 TB is reasonable though. I've never deleted anything since putting in my 2 TB drive a year or so ago, so I probably over-ordered a little bit.


TBH GTA is the only big one, the others are fine. I can usually have 2 or 3 SP games installed and still have space for updates.

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:26 
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I left the 1TB drive in my Pro.


Where's the fun in that? :p

Once I said I didn't want to transfer over all the PS Plus games I've played for 30 seconds, there wasn't a whole lot to transfer between consoles.

Same. Which is why I left the 1TB drive in my Pro ;)

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:35 
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Ok, I have about 400 gig free, so I'll leave it now, and it can be a problem for future-Joans.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 13:51 
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Isn't everything saved in the cloud anyway? I know that on the Xbox One, you can just sign in with your username and password and it will download everything for you including saves, the layout of your home screen and the association with which games you need to download. Doesn't the PS4 have this?

Something that is very definitely not backed up is savegames for any guest accounts ie. people without their own PS+ accounts.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:58 
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Super-sampling mode coming to PS4 Pro with the next firmware update:

https://blog.us.playstation.com/2018/02 ... ware-5-50/

Assuming I'm reading it right, it means that any game which has a 4K mode available can have that turned on then sampled down to 1080p so you get a visual improvement even on a non-4K set. Although, as noted in the link, a lot of games offer this anyway as part of their Pro feature set so I'm not sure how much difference this will make. Also, if you have this switched on at system level will it over-ride the per game settings you choose i.e. if I choose in a given game to leverage the Pro horsepower to get 60FPS instead of more shinies then how does that interact with the system-level super-sampling choice?


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:51 
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Looks like Ikaruga is coming to PS4 at some point.

I have a love/hate relationship with that bastard shoot-em-up because that bloody fourth level.

I mean, come on, would you look at this shit... https://youtu.be/iPx-oznzdTs


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:07 
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It's very very good.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:11 
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Looks like Ikaruga is coming to PS4 at some point.

I have a love/hate relationship with that bastard shoot-em-up because that bloody fourth level.

I mean, come on, would you look at this shit... https://youtu.be/iPx-oznzdTs


Looks easy.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 18:28 
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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 18:33 
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Not buying it again, aslong as my xbox works. And my dreamcast works. And my cube works...

Buy it once, shame on you. Buy it four times, shame on me.

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:25 
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Not buying it again, aslong as my xbox works. And my dreamcast works. And my cube works...


You could buy it again on Steam, you know


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:16 
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We've owned two PS4s for all of five minutes and we've had our first incomprehensible-to-normal-people DRM screwup.

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All my special guns are gone in FC5!
I logged in as you and yours were there.


This is because when setting up the Pro I made it my primary console, and the special guns pre-order bonus DLC is registered to me, so she could no longer access it under her gamertag on the older PS4. Sigh.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:19 
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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:26 
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Would games purchased from PSN have the same issue?

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:29 
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Would games purchased from PSN have the same issue?

Yes. They work for the user who buys them on any PS4, and they work for anyone else on that user's primary PS4, but they don't work anywhere else. This is one important way in which disks are better if you have multiple PS4s.

The obvious counter example is: MrsDoc and I could co-op Far Cry 5 with a single digital purchase.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:33 
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But only if you'd left your old PS4 as primary, right?

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
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Cras wrote:
But only if you'd left your old PS4 as primary, right?


Or if she used the new one and you used the old one

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:35 
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But only if you'd left your old PS4 as primary, right?


Or if she used the new one and you used the old one

Yes, it would only work for one arrangement, but it would work. Note also you can change your primary freely (which is how we sorted out her issue today, I moved my primary back to my old PS4.)


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
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In fact it suggests that there's no reason for the PS4 you normally use to be your primary one.

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:39 
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In fact it suggests that there's no reason for the PS4 you normally use to be your primary one.

No. Most likely config in new house is my primary PS4 is in the living room and my PS4 in the mancave [1] is the secondary. But that's still limiting -- MrsDoc can't play much in there, should she want to.

[1] watch me somehow end up buying somewhere without a mancave now.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 13:57 
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PS4 in the mancave [1] is the secondary. But that's still limiting -- MrsDoc can't play much in there, should she want to.

[1] watch me somehow end up buying somewhere without a mancave now.


Accessed through a perfectly round door like a porthole, painted green, with a shiny yellow brass knob in the exact middle, is it?

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 14:11 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Would games purchased from PSN have the same issue?

Yes. They work for the user who buys them on any PS4, and they work for anyone else on that user's primary PS4, but they don't work anywhere else. This is one important way in which disks are better if you have multiple PS4s.

This is not true. My downloaded games work fine for The Grimlet on both of my PS4s.

Having to manually sync the saves to the cloud is annoying, though.

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 14:13 
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Grim... wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Would games purchased from PSN have the same issue?

Yes. They work for the user who buys them on any PS4, and they work for anyone else on that user's primary PS4, but they don't work anywhere else. This is one important way in which disks are better if you have multiple PS4s.

This is not true. My downloaded games work fine on both of my PS4s.

And you would be the user who purchased them. As I said. They won't work for other PSN accounts. Doesn't Grimlet just use your account?


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 14:14 
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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 14:16 
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Fuck your ninja edit. Also, I don't believe you.

http://manuals.playstation.net/document ... ation.html

Quote:
Activate your PS4™ system as your primary system, using your Sony Entertainment Network account. Activating your system enables these features:

Anyone who uses your primary PS4™ system can use applications you purchase from PlayStation™Store.


Also this literally happened to MrsDoc just hours ago.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
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I will test it on Saturday, if I remember.

Also, I'm aware we're having this conversation twice ;)

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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 18:08 
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Grim... wrote:
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Yes. They work for the user who buys them on any PS4, and they work for anyone else on that user's primary PS4, but they don't work anywhere else. This is one important way in which disks are better if you have multiple PS4s.

This is not true. My downloaded games work fine for The Grimlet on both of my PS4s.

We solved this mystery. Grim was wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: PS4 confirmed
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 22:10 
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