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 Post subject: Re: Steam
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 19:55 
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Due to someone mentioning a Steam sale I was over there having a poke around on my account. Out of the nineteen games on my wishlist at the moment sixteen of them are currently on sale. The numbers of emails I've had from Steam telling me about this: big fat fucking zero. Is they're notification functionality equally useless for everyone else or am I getting special treatment here? I think Saturnalian had mentioned having a similar experience at some point recently?


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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It certainly notifies me. Whether it notifies me about everything I can't say.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Bamba wrote:
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Elite: Dangerous Alpha 1.1 (added manually to Steam) ran absolutely perfectly.


That's interesting, I'd assumed it would only work with native Steam titles and didn't even try it with manually added stuff. Thinking about it though it makes sense as it's just a remote desktop connection of some kind* so there's no reason they couldn't mirror non-Steam stuff, especially when they already embed non-Steam games in the overlay (the thing you get if you hit Ctrl+Tab) if you launch then from the Steam.

*I know this because when I quit out of Portal 2 there was a moment when I got the full desktop of the host PC for a good five seconds before Steam cut the connection.


I didn't see this at the time, but I read on another forum that someone had managed to add Windows Explorer to their Steam library, and streaming that did indeed give them effectively an RDP connection to their desktop.

Also, no idea why I said I had problems with Arkham Asylum when it was actually Arkham Origins I was playing.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Elite: Dangerous Alpha 1.1 (added manually to Steam) ran absolutely perfectly.


That's interesting, I'd assumed it would only work with native Steam titles and didn't even try it with manually added stuff. Thinking about it though it makes sense as it's just a remote desktop connection of some kind* so there's no reason they couldn't mirror non-Steam stuff, especially when they already embed non-Steam games in the overlay (the thing you get if you hit Ctrl+Tab) if you launch then from the Steam.

*I know this because when I quit out of Portal 2 there was a moment when I got the full desktop of the host PC for a good five seconds before Steam cut the connection.


I didn't see this at the time, but I read on another forum that someone had managed to add Windows Explorer to their Steam library, and streaming that did indeed give them effectively an RDP connection to their desktop.

Also, no idea why I said I had problems with Arkham Asylum when it was actually Arkham Origins I was playing.


Presumably they'd just add it by the normal method you add non-Steam stuff to Steam. Steam's got no way of telling what's a game and what isn't so it pretty much just shows you all the exe's on your PC and lets you add them. And when you actually execute something it's not like it's going to know that you're using Explorer rather than just playing the most boring game on the planet so it makes sense it would work. I suppose it might filter the stuff you can add by excluding certain directories (i.e. the Windows folder) but you could probably work round that by stick a shortcut or full copy of the exe into Program Files or where ever.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Couldn't think of anywhere else to post this, but I guess it kinda fits into this topic. - Is there any way to speed up the download speed of Steam and Origin (mainly origin)?
I get about 1mb/s on Steam, and 300kb/s on Origin, yet when I'm downloading other things from other sources I often get up to 2mb/s.
Any ideas on how to speed it up a little?


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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I can get 12mb from Steam, so I don't think it's their fault.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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I think it depends on the game. I used to be able to download most games really fast, but Company of Heroes would crawl down at 50k/s or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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I managed to increase origin to about 1mb/s using something I found online.
(Puts Origin into "R&D Mode", so you're probably not really meant to - but, meh.)
I'm going to assume my internet is just rubbish and thats why Steam or Origin can't get above about 1mb/s.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Pod wrote:
I think it depends on the game. I used to be able to download most games really fast, but Company of Heroes would crawl down at 50k/s or something.


I don't believe that's true; Steam's a distribution platform (amongst other things of course), its not like each game is being downloaded from its developer's own website or anything. There are likely to be regionalised servers for download, and temporary issues that affect download speeds across the board on these servers, but the idea of download speeds being specific to individual games seems incredibly unlikely.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:59 
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Games will be spread across CDNs though, with certain games on certain servers, and if the one you're game is on its getting hammered, you might get a slow download.

I've never known it happen though, I must say.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Games will be spread across CDNs though, with certain games on certain servers, and if the one you're game is on its getting hammered, you might get a slow download.

I've never known it happen though, I must say.


It definitely used to happen all the time with Company of Heroes. I suspect that's because when the COH devs changed a single file Steam would redownload the entire 3GB game :/ And there was something messed up with the expansions, so all 3 would download. I imagine whichever content server supported that publisher doing COH just got hammered every time they put out a patch.

ps: Dimrill broke my steam. He sent an offline trade request and before I could see it cancelled it (presumably he traded with someone else). But now Steam keeps telling me there's a trade available, and I can't make it go away :(

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:16 
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The current sale is killing me :D So far i have bought

The Stanley Parable
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Dark Souls : Prepare to Die edition
Saints Row IV
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For a sum total of around £35


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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If you don't already have it, I would recommend running this plugin for your browser
http://www.enhancedsteam.com/


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Why haven't you bought Kerbal Space Program? What's wrong with you?!

I have enhanced steam -- I installed it the day before the sale. Once the sale started I stopped noticing it's effects, at least on the front page ;(

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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I've only purchased Gunpoint so far. I see that the next choice vote includes Kentucky Route Zero for 50% off though so fingers crossed that comes up.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:37 
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I've only purchased Gunpoint so far. I see that the next choice vote includes Kentucky Route Zero for 50% off though so fingers crossed that comes up.


All of :this: .


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Why haven't you bought Kerbal Space Program? What's wrong with you?!

I have enhanced steam -- I installed it the day before the sale. Once the sale started I stopped noticing it's effects, at least on the front page ;(


Because it wasn't on sale when I posted :D
Fixed that though, so add that to the list!


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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If you don't already have it, I would recommend running this plugin for your browser
http://www.enhancedsteam.com/


I nearly bought LEGO Marvel Super Heroes again and it didn't warn me :( I already have it in my inventory. Even changing the options to "highlight Items stored as gift" it doesn't warn me.... It tags Batman as being in my inventory though, but that's via a tiny brown tag on the thumbnail, not on the item's page.

Actually -- it seems to thimk "item on wishlist" is a more important thing to alert you about than "already in inventory"...

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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:shrug: it works fine for me on the default settings! All the games on the sale screen that I already have are highlighted green.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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:shrug: it works fine for me on the default settings! All the games on the sale screen that I already have are highlighted green.


Yeah it does that -- it doesn't properly highlight them brown if they're in my inventory :/

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Actually -- it seems to thimk "item on wishlist" is a more important thing to alert you about than "already in inventory"...


Well, yeah; shouldn't you already know if you've bought something before or not?


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Bamba wrote:
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Actually -- it seems to thimk "item on wishlist" is a more important thing to alert you about than "already in inventory"...


Well, yeah; shouldn't you already know if you've bought something before or not?

Ha! I've got around 200 games on Steam, and I doubt I've played 100 of them. So no.

Which probably means I shouldn't be buying anything else, anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Actually -- it seems to thimk "item on wishlist" is a more important thing to alert you about than "already in inventory"...


Well, yeah; shouldn't you already know if you've bought something before or not?

Ha! I've got around 200 games on Steam, and I doubt I've played 100 of them. So no.


Not having played something doesn't mean you can't know whether you own it or not though; although I take your point about large Steam libraries making that harder. That said, if you use the Wishlist 'correctly' (i.e. add stuff on it you want and take shit off it once you've bought it) surely that takes care of it? Certainly it makes something being on your wishlist a more important piece of info than whether you already own a game, which is mostly the point I was making in response to Pod.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Amatuer.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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My stats mostly stem from bundles; the majority of my Steam collection was 'bought' with no intention of ever playing any of them. I think I've got about ten games or so on there that I actually want to play and haven't yet and I'm steadily moving through them so it's not much of an actual backlog.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Typically for me, it's not recognising my steamID or a customID or whateverthefuck , so I can't play this.

I've got 22 games though, if that helps. Sure it does.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Typically for me, it's not recognising my steamID or a customID or whateverthefuck , so I can't play this.

I've got 22 games though, if that helps. Sure it does.


It times out a lot

go to here http://steamdb.info/calculator/ and stick in your steamID - if you cant get it then go to here : http://steamidfinder.com/ stick in your steam ID and it'll give you one of the other methods of viewing it (typically a long number string) which you could try instead.

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As with Bamba I have a number of bundles - I also have a number of games where I've already played it on another system but buy the steam version cheap so that when the other system is gone I can go back and still play it (I've re-bought a lot of my favorite 360 games on Steam)


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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When I buy things of of Steam I don't "buy them for myself", which would cause them to be added to my steam library. Instead I simply turn them into giftables which sit in my inventory. Only then if I want to actually play them do I activate them. This way when I buy a load of shit from a sale and later realise I don't want them I trade the games away and try and get something I do want.

And my wishlist is full of random crap I added purely so that steam would stop asking me about it.

I just unticked the "highlight for wishlist" option and now it's at least highlighting things on the front page that are already in my inventory.

That calculator isn't working for my profile right now (:(), but using that is for noobs. NO TRUE REAL HARDCORE ULTRA GAMER wouldn't not track their spending #gid=0" class="postlink">via a spreadsheet. (Thuogh I haven't updated it in a while... and LEGO Marvel isn't even on there!)

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Pod wrote:
When I buy things of of Steam I don't "buy them for myself", which would cause them to be added to my steam library. Instead I simply turn them into giftables which sit in my inventory. Only then if I want to actually play them do I activate them. This way when I buy a load of shit from a sale and later realise I don't want them I trade the games away and try and get something I do want.

And my wishlist is full of random crap I added purely so that steam would stop asking me about it.


I don't think you can reasonably expect the service to deal with this situation. Well, you can, but you'll be disappointed; and rightly so.


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Pod wrote:
[*]Hours spent: 2,005.3h[/list]
I do not beat Zaphod :(


8) I think you might just beat everyone there.

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Really quite suprised I've the amount I've not played is only 53%, I expected it to be a lot more.
And how can my Steam account be worth £1348.30? Is that including the normal steam price for things I got in bundles?


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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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You scrolled past a big old itemised list of costs to get to the bit you copy and pasted.

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Thank fuck we have Zaphod and Pod here. There's a reason why I stay the fuck away from my PC when there's a Steam sale on:

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Bamba wrote:

I don't think you can reasonably expect the service to deal with this situation. Well, you can, but you'll be disappointed; and rightly so.


It has options to do exactly this! It's just the programmers of it thought that something in your wishlist trumps something in your inventory, even though one of them represents "what I have" and one "what I want".

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[*]Hours spent: 2,005.3h[/list]
I do not beat Zaphod :(


8) I think you might just beat everyone there.

My Steam Profile (from SteamDB)

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  • Games not played: 74 (53%)
  • Hours spent: 481.0h

Really quite suprised I've the amount I've not played is only 53%, I expected it to be a lot more.
And how can my Steam account be worth £1348.30? Is that including the normal steam price for things I got in bundles?


Looking at the "completed" thread I'm sure other people must easily rank up waaaaaaaay more gaming hours than I do, they simply don't do it via Steam :P Plus, I've had that account for a long time.... on the other hand, I've easily put bazillions of hours in games not on Steam (e.g. KSP).

Like Grim said, look at the list! But it's basically market price, not what you paid for.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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I'll be having some KRZ then.


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Add Pixel Pirates, Next Car Game and Kerbal Space Programme to the list!


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You played one game a lot?

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It *might* be football manager related! :)
I have 519 hours on FM13, 431 on FM11, 151 hours on civ4.

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 Post subject: Re: Steam
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Damage so far in this sale:

Castle Crashers
Call of Juarez: Gunslinger
Steamworld Dig
Brothers: A tale of two sons

Quick, is Sleeping Dogs worth it? (4€ that is)


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I played Sleeping Dogs for about an hour and it seemed ok in a generic open world kinda way.
It didn't raise itself to the top of my play list though.


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I love Sleeping Dogs.

I wish you'd just let it lie.

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I've made about a fiver in trading card sales this week.
Admittedly i've spent about £60 in the sale so far, but that doesn't count...


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I have spent £2.99 so far. I think I've reached Peak Steam.

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