Hi.

There is a reason why it is set to one vote per person, mathematically speaking.

If people were to be allowed, say two votes each, and there were, for example three entries, A, B and C.

If ten people think of A as their favourite and C as their second favourite, and so vote A & C, and ten people think B as their favourite and C as the second favourite and so vote B & C, then A receives ten votes, B receives ten votes, and C wins with 20 votes, despite nobody actually thinking it is the best picture.

I know that is a rather simplistic example, but I learned at school that it is an unfair way of polling to find a favourite.

The other fair way to do it would be as Dimrill suggests, with a Eurovision style points system. I'd be happy to do this, but we wouldn't be able to have an actual integrated poll, as although you can set polls to have X number selectable options, you cannot set an order of preference as far as I know.

As i'm fucking glroious and stuff of thnking about the eurovision voting stuff n shit, that one.

I like the 3 vote eurovision thing. I'm a bit less keen on the lack of anonymousness.

I think one vote is perfectly adequate.

Perhaps we could PM our votes to Mimi. Our voting would still be mostly anonymous, and Mimi would find it easier to collate the votes from a PM than from a thread where it would be intermixed with Chatter and Banter.

What are other people's opinions on this?

I vote for PMing votes.

In the Eurovision styleee?

In the Eurovision styleee?

Do we need to have funny accents and wear silly clothes while sending the PM?

Maybe something like this:

I think one vote is fine though - there's bound to be a few to attract no votes but that doesn't mean that their photo was bad, just that people preferred the others. It's not as if there are prizes at stake - it should just be a bit of fun.

Actually, maybe PMing me the votes is a good idea - it would make announcing the winner more exciting, that's for sure. What do people think of this?

Euro-vision-style voting by the end of the day, if you want it.

The mighty codehammer swings again!

Can we please do it with a drag-and-drop rearrangable list, blah blah blah

It does. I'm still a bit bemused that the actual photo's aren't stored by the forum, TBH.

All of that is a lump of piss, tbh

(except for the pony, although my ma probably has a couple of Welsh Sec. D's for sale, I'll ask her if you want).

Euro-vision-style voting by the end of the day, if you want it.

Right, I hesitate to suggest this, 'cos I know a lot of effort and thought has been put into the way this is run, but I'm getting a sense of overkill, slightly?

What's the plugin structure like? Are you hacking straight into it or is there a reasonable API?

for a start I think nynfortoo would just be the permanent judge

I really like the idea of the voting being from the whole forum, and not just the winner of the last competition;
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and secondly I think with something this subjective I don't think it should be down to just one person to pick the winner.

I also like the fact that the submissions are anonymous; I think knowing who had taken each shot would have coloured my voting.

So I hope the process won't be too complicated.
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That's no bad thing in my book, and it's heartwarming that everyone holds the community in such high regard.

t used to the other way. The judge explains *why* they liked your photo, rather than simply "you won the outcome of the voting process". It's a bit more personal is all, and you get a different set of criteria every month, which keeps it fun (and actually makes it less likely for the same type of photo or person to repeatedly win).

I honestly have never understood that bit. I think people are grown up enough to vote based on aesthetic criteria rather than who they do/don't like. Especially as there is no prize. Really.

Yes indeed. It does seem like a fair bit of work for someone to implement though. But if it really will be as painless as you say then fair enough, I'll give it a try

I think Kalmar meant that the person who wins chooses the next picture subject, not the next winner.

Right, I hesitate to suggest this, 'cos I know a lot of effort and thought has been put into the way this is run, but I'm getting a sense of overkill, slightly?

To explain, I occasionally take part in photo competitions on other forums. Even won on a couple of occasions.

The rules are simple:
The organiser picks a topic and specifies any conditions. People post their photos. The organiser picks a winner and maybe a runner up or two. Then the winner becomes the new organiser. Repeat once a month in a new thread, and that's it.

Perhaps it's just me but I find that a much more amenable system, especially as I'm essentially lazy and don't like jumping through extra hoops.

I just like how the photo contest has grown into something that appears to be now something of a forum institution.

There are a couple of reasons why I do not think this is a good idea. Firstly, maybe the winner does not want to have to put forward the time and effort (and it does take both) to organise it, so perhaps won't bother to take part.

If you are 'essentially lazy' then this would make no sense.

Secondly, I think people enjoy voting, it gives them reason to look at each and every photo properly and as people asked for an anonymous vote in the interest of fairness it would seem strange to retract back to just one person's vote having any worth. I think people enjoy the voting as part of the process. I do.

One third thing - It might as people have already mentioned end up as only a few people becoming judges and setting the topic each time, and I think this would detract from the community spirit f the photography contest.

You mean like a photo clique of some sort? Well, it's just a bit of fun after all and I'd like to think better of people than that.
If anything I think it has better community spirit to give everyone a chance at running it.

I think he was just having a little joke about the clique thing, Meems...

I do agree with you though that if the winenr gets to choose, it's entirely possible that the mantle could be passed between a group of people not through any collusion but through them being the better photographers. I quite enjoyed picking a topic, as I'm sure did everyone before and after me, so it's nice to get chance to do it even if you're not any good.

I'd hate to be the person adding up those votes manually.

I'd hate to be the person adding up those votes manually.