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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 12:54 
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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Nope, it's definitely on.

Then I'm out of ideas/can't be arsed.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Fair enough, I'm sure it'll sort itself out. At least I've discovered you can turn avatars on from looking at your photo...


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 13:12 
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At least I've discovered you can turn avatars on from looking at your photo...


I've never changed any settings relating to that and they display on my phone as well. I noticed there's a "Display Flash animations" settings, maybe that controls the YouTube stuff?

Have you basically been buggering about in the board options and managed to switch all this stuff off?


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 13:18 
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I've just had a look and everything is on except signatures. Sometimes the youtube videos show up and sometimes they don't. It's not a big deal.

Anyhoo don't derail the thread with this shit when we could make Zio feel guilty about spending £100 on a Beta.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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I sometimes don't get the embedded videos showing on the mobile skin.

BUT, if I press the space where they should be, the video plays the sound while still leaving a white space.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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...meanwhile, in the next thread...


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Anyhoo don't derail the thread with this shit when we could make Zio feel guilty about spending £100 on a Beta.


£85. ;)

I decided to give it a whirl on my MacBook Pro last night too, via BootCamp. It's a much more modest machine, a dual-core i5 at 2.4GHz, 8GB RAM and Intel Iris integrated graphics. Still runs really well, albeit nowhere near as smooth as it does on my PC. But still, it seems like a genuine technical achievement, and we're talking about a game still in Alpha.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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If you gave them money and now you're playing it, it's been released.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:00 
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I have given them money (not as much as Zio), but I have not yet got the game. It hasn't been released to me!

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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The beta fee is on top of any pledge you've given them.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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I have given them money (not as much as Zio), but I have not yet got the game. It hasn't been released to me!

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Sure it has - you can buy it if you want.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:24 
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The beta fee is on top of any pledge you've given them.


Yeah, I have the basic beta package, I did not pay for the premium beta or the alpha packages (I do not have a pc that could play it at the moment, so there would be no point)

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:27 
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As for what's been released so far, I've been following the progress in the email updates they send out. From what I understand, they are very limited in what you can do, with each release focusing on one aspect of gameplay (just combat, or just trading etc).

I think it's fair to say that the FULL GAME has not been released yet!

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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The beta fee is on top of any pledge you've given them.


Yeah, I have the basic beta package, I did not pay for the premium beta or the alpha packages (I do not have a pc that could play it at the moment, so there would be no point)

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No, you misunderstand. The beta Zio is playing is nothing to do with a pledge package. He's pledged. Now he's paid an EXTRA £85 to be able to play this beta.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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I think it's fair to say that the FULL GAME has not been released yet!

Where do you draw the line, though - if a dev intends to keep releasing updates (like CS:GO, for example, or maybe Minecraft) then how do we know when to spend our monies?

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:40 
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Cras wrote:
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The beta fee is on top of any pledge you've given them.


Yeah, I have the basic beta package, I did not pay for the premium beta or the alpha packages (I do not have a pc that could play it at the moment, so there would be no point)

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No, you misunderstand. The beta Zio is playing is nothing to do with a pledge package. He's pledged. Now he's paid an EXTRA £85 to be able to play this beta.


Yeah I know this. However, my understanding is that anyone that paid for the alpha package at pledge level would have had access to these releases.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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If you think it's bad that Zio paid £85 to get the beta, I'd better not tell you how much I paid to get into the alpha ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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If you think it's bad that Zio paid £85 to get the beta, I'd better not tell you how much I paid to get into the alpha ;)


:DD

Besides which, that £85 gives me every beta release from now on, the full game when that happens and every expansion pack. And it's fucking Elite IV! No amount of naysaying will ever convince me I've done the wrong thing here - I've waited nearly 20 years to play this game.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 13:20 
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I get all the expansion packs (my main reason for paying more than a normal game) too, entry into the proper beta release, and my choice of any of the starter planets/ships.

I also get the physical map and a T-shirt!

I paid more than enough for that imo!

I really couldn't justify paying for early beta access (even if I had a PC to play the game on) unless I won the lottery or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Hyperspace, supercruise and docking in the new Alpha 4.0.

Terrible video quality, but this game is beautiful.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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I do think it's very clever how they've handled instancing, what with how the frame shift drive works and all that, but from what I've seen, the load times need some work. It's in Alpha though, so there's plenty of time for Frontier to sort all that out though.

So very excited! Roll on the end of the month when I get to join in with this!


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Wait! You spent £100 on a game that isn't finished that you can't play until June?

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 23:40 
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W.T.F.

I assume this is eventually going to be released retail, having been made so that it works, for a lot less than you paid?

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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yes, Zio has paid for early access esentially. I imagine in any Multiplayer game, having more experience in a game is going to be advantageous. Also some people pay a premium for an earlier experience.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Why the hell am I being single out? GazChap is on the the bloody Alpha!


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 19:53 
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Is Zio made of monies? Think he needs to sit down with a nice level headed chap to help him get back on the straight and narrow.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Zio wrote:
Why the hell am I being single out? GazChap is on the the bloody Alpha!


Do you not read the car thread? Gazchap making poor purchasing decisions is a given :D


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Gazchap making poor purchasing decisions is a given :D

Not a poor purchasing decision, I'm loving every minute of it.

Video of combat, docking, repairs and outfitting:



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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Got to say, that "combat" has put me right off this.

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It doesn't help that I'm a shitty combat pilot.


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It doesn't help that I'm a shitty combat pilot.

I think even the shittiest combat pilot can fly in a straight line and shot straight ahead.

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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True :P To be fair to the game, the place I was at is basically just a "farming" area designed for easy kills so you can get money.

Other parts of the game have NPC pilots that have crazy good AI that I've not managed to beat yet.

And of course other players will have all sorts of tricks up their sleeves.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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The good thing about waiting until it's actually released is that I won't have thrown a ridiculous amount of money at it before finding out if it's any good.

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The good thing about waiting until it's actually released is that I won't have thrown a ridiculous amount of money at it before finding out if it's any good.

This.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Got to say, that "combat" has put me right off this.


The beta I'm on doesn't start till the 30th, but the combat demo that I have for the time being is really good, and certainly more involved than GazChap's video there. I've never tried filming a game in progress from my PC before, but maybe I'll give it a go tonight if I get time.


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I so would be spending money on this if I though I'd have time to enjoy the beta.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Premium Beta is now available for a 'mere' hundred quid ........

http://elite.frontier.co.uk/

Too much for my wallet I'm afraid, but us poor folks can at least enjoy this new Anaconda vid until the final, much cheaper release:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewo-6WVZaIU


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Christ - they're going to make more money if they never release it.

Platinum Gamma Edition only £199!

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Well they have to release it, considering how many have already paid for the £20/£30/£35 (depending on when you pledged or pre-ordered) final game.

It's really fucking difficult at the moment, BTW. Like, proper hard! I'm starting to realise now that the main tactic to employ when attacked whilst you're still in the starting ship is to run as fast as you can whilst making random movement to try to dodge fire - because you can't beat anything at all with the shitty starting weapons. And docking: it's a cunt. The videos I'd been watching made it look so simple, but simple it is not!


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Well they have to release it, considering how many have already paid for the £20/£30/£35 (depending on when you pledged or pre-ordered) final game.

Contractually, the only have to release it once, er, it's shipped. The transaction doesn't count as finalised until then.

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This business model is great for the developer but terrible for the consumer.

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It's good where it means that games can get funded which otherwise might not.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:02 
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I also don't see how the consumer suffers?

Those that want to pay a "normal" price for the game, can do that. They wouldn't have had access to alphas and betas of a "normal" game, and they haven't got access to it with this game.

However, anyone who wants to pay more to get a sneak peak, to practice their docking, or whatever, they can do that too.

I really don't see the issue.

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What if the company goes bust and the game doesn't get released?

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 Post subject: Re: Elite
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Then you get nothing. As was clearly explained to you before you put any money down.


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 Post subject: Re: Elite
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 14:58 
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