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Author:  Squirt [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 16:57 ]
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Oooh, shiny. I like.


Urge... to.. buy... dice... rising...

Author:  Tmuk [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 16:58 ]
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Last time I painted a miniature (about 10 years ago) I used undercoat spray and it was shit. Gave a horrible textured surface effect and smothered the really fine details.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:01 ]
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Tmuk wrote:
Last time I painted a miniature (about 10 years ago) I used undercoat spray and it was shit. Gave a horrible textured surface effect and smothered the really fine details.


Oh, it used to be awful. Now it's superb.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:14 ]
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What are the W40k PC games like?

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:17 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
What are the W40k PC games like?


Dawn of War is brilliant.

What I'd really like is a game that let you pick armies properly, and then set to against the AI, but they won't release a game like that because it would cut into their tabletop sales (which are massively more expensive profitable).

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:28 ]
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That sucks.

I thought that's how they would be. I can understand their thinking why they chose to do this but I think if the game reflected the table top version it would attract more sales for them, no?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:30 ]
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Is there not a fan-based online solution?

Author:  Morte [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 17:34 ]
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Many years ago they released Final Liberation which was based on the Titan scale rules but which was limited to Ork vs Imperials (but it was still fu with the Ork Titans).

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 18:19 ]
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Oh my!

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 18:50 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Is there not a fan-based online solution?


No, because GW are massively litigious.

Morte wrote:
Many years ago they released Final Liberation which was based on the Titan scale rules but which was limited to Ork vs Imperials (but it was still fu with the Ork Titans).


And it was a brilliant, brilliant game. Unfortunately it was buggy as shit (the fliers used to crash the game 9 times out of 10), and quite limited in scope. Particularly as if you fought against the computer, the AI would choose exactly the same shit army every single time.

Author:  Sinister Minister [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 19:40 ]
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There was also Chaos Gate, the turn based strategy / tactics one which myself and a friend played to death but everyone else hated.

It was actually quite playable two player if you took one or more squads each (overlapping fire, support weapons and so on).

I suspect though that I may have donned the rose-tinted nostalgia goggles.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 20:37 ]
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Wahay! Found my plague marines!

Image

Author:  tossrStu [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 20:47 ]
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Squirt wrote:
Oooh, shiny. I like.


Urge... to.. buy... dice... rising...


Quick! Roll 1D20 against willpower to resist!

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 20:50 ]
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Jesus, That was a bit of a rude awakening. 'Yeah lets paint a Space Marine' says Pundy. 'Oh no, he's forgotten how to paint! FORGOTTEN HOW TO PAINT!!!!' shouts the crowd.
Well, it has been ten years, and I did choose a horribly ambitious colour scheme, but I didn't expect it to be that bad. Took me fucking HOURS to do, too (mostly fixing up mistakes). He's not bad, really... just not that great.

I think I'll try something simpler on my next marine.

As to undercoat sprays... they work, but are overkill for a ten man experimental squad type thing. I'd rather save the money till I'm sure I'm getting back into it proper, loike.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 21:00 ]
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Games Workshop eBay store is quite a bit cheaper than their mailorder business :S

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 21:35 ]
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SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

All of you SHUT UP NOW

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:25 ]
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richardgaywood wrote:
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

All of you SHUT UP NOW


Theres only one thing I can say to that....


mmmm, http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/miniature-gallery/14/... Terminators

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:30 ]
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Did I hear super-heavy tanks mentioned? No??? Are you sure?

Cos here comes the Baneblade!

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120105023&orignav=10

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:31 ]
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mmmm, http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/dgterm.htm ... Deathguard Terminators

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:34 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
mmmm, http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/dgterm.htm ... Deathguard Terminators


ooh... they are nice!

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:36 ]
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http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/weterm.htm World Eater ones too... HNNGHH!

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:37 ]
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they look cool too, but I don't particularly like World Eaters

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:39 ]
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http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/dgpa.htm deathguard plague marines.... £20... can I afford 20 quid? HhrhrmrmrmmrmrmrrmrGHNGNGNNHGHH!

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:42 ]
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YOU ARE ALL BASTARDS

Man, I'd forgotten how freaking cool WH4K is. Why are Games Workshop such money grabbing profiteering cunts?

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:44 ]
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A quick search for "sprue" on eBay reveals a whole new world of cheapy goodness. The only difference is that you don't get the cardboard boxes they're normally packaged in.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:46 ]
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Those DeathGuards look a cunt to paint.

Ork Deff Dread!

Author:  NervousPete [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 0:14 ]
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Hmm, after flicking through the website and a quick gander at wikis, I reckon that if I were to play this now I'd be The Tau, as I like their Iain M Banks vibe. If I were to play that is. Which I shall resist. Phew.

The Tau, eh? Like the Necrons and Dark Eldar, they weren't around in my day, oh no.

Author:  Dimrill [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 0:17 ]
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Man O War had just come out when I stopped the first time. Then I got into painting again about 6 or so years ago for about 6 months, and seemingly now again :S

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 0:24 ]
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I'll definitely be getting some Tau at some point. As I've said, I'm just going to paint stuff that appeals to me, rather than try to collect an army (Though I'm hoping for a Blood Bowl tabletop re-release off the back of this new game, so I can resurrect my Orc team)

After the (disappointing) attempt today, I'm going to do 4 more of my marines as random colour schemes, then put together a combat squad of the one I like the most. Next, I think it'll have to be... bright green! I also quite fancy trying to do a camo'd up marine, as used to exist way, way back in the mists of time.

Man O War was ace, but you can't even get the miniatures for it, because they wore out the moulds.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 0:29 ]
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Oh Mr Chris. You've made the forum explode in one giant nerdgasm.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:03 ]
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:this:

Man alive, my inner spod is creaming over the Nurgle stuff.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:40 ]
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I like the imperial Guard. Can you still 'be' them?

Author:  Tmuk [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:18 ]
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Yeah, of course, you can 'be' whichever chapter you like.
I used to have Dark Angels, they we're piss easy to paint and highlight. So talking of Space Marines, which do you prefer - old school, Rogue Trader 'Beak-y' marines or the more modern varient?

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:45 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
Man O War had just come out when I stopped the first time.

"Fighting, fighting, fighting the world! I've been fighting the world [power chord * 6]."

Author:  Derek Joists [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:40 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
Man O War had just come out when I stopped the first time.

"Fighting, fighting, fighting the world! I've been fighting the world [power chord * 6]."


Manowar rule! And are in no way gay or dumb.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:48 ]
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Oh, I still have a soft spot for the Mark VI 'Corvus' Armour (or as it's affectionately known... Womble armour) and the new plastics still include this variant! (yay!).

Some of the new Imperial Guard stuff is excellent, if you like tanks. (See Baneblade)

Current list of armies in 40K:

Space Marines
Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Daemons
Tau (little dudes in anime-esque battlesuits)
Eldar
Dark Eldar (evil Eldar, not as many troop types as Eldar, lots of spikes etc)
Orks (WAAAAAAAAARGHHH!)
Necrons (ugh)
Sisters of Battle/ Witch-hunters (ultra religious types, with some BDSM undertones)
Imperial Guard (tanks n' cannon fodder)
Tyranids (icky biological weapons, with everyone's favourite close combat monsters, the Genestealers)

Squats got eaten by the Tyranids, and I'm not sure whether the Tyranid army lists allow you to field Genestealer cults. I haven't see any specific miniatures for them.

Author:  Dimrill [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:54 ]
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I just found some of my old lead wombles :) Also some pre-slotta fantasy battle orcs.

Author:  Bluecup [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:10 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
Necrons (ugh)


I liked the Necrons. My own little Terminator army (as in the "hasta la vista, baby" Terminators).

Can this thread be locked please, it's far to dangerous. :nerd:

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:15 ]
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I really don't like the style of the Necron minis. Plus they're too 'special' stats wise. They're a bit of a gimmick army. But the main reason is that I don't like the aesthetics. I can't think of one miniature that I like from their range.

Author:  Bluecup [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:23 ]
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I agree, they are a gimmick but I wanted the army from those flash-forward bits in the Teminator movie's stomping over the barren wast ground. I stayed away from the Flayed Ones and C'Tan and kept with the rank and file warriors and destroyers.

I also had an ork army but I don't think I every won a single game with them.

Author:  Rodafowa [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:24 ]
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Womble armour is nice, but the Mark VII Death's Head-y type is better.

I liked painting the Epic stuff because you could get really nice results with a tiny bit of technical know-how and, weirdly, a steady hand wasn't as important as it is with 25mm minatures.

I've got a Deathwing Terminator detachment in my cabinet at home, along with one of the old-style "flying church" dropships, a company of Imperial Guard Shadowswords and a couple of Warlord titans, one with a chainsaw head and funky fire-control tower fitted.

Author:  Dimrill [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:29 ]
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Roda, see those Forgeworld WH40K scale titans??!?! COR! PHWOARRR! 550 quid though :S

Author:  Rodafowa [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 13:40 ]
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COR BLIMEY!

The Eldar ones are gorgeous. I always loved the Eldar titan design.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 14:13 ]
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Please stop, I can't take much more.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 14:18 ]
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Look at that beautiful bastard.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/greatunclean.htm

90 squid though *faints*

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 14:18 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
Space Marines
Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Daemons
Tau (little dudes in anime-esque battlesuits)
Eldar
Dark Eldar (evil Eldar, not as many troop types as Eldar, lots of spikes etc)
Necrons (ugh)
Sisters of Battle/ Witch-hunters (ultra religious types, with some BDSM undertones)
Imperial Guard (tanks n' cannon fodder)
Tyranids (icky biological weapons, with everyone's favourite close combat monsters, the Genestealers)


What happened to Orks?

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 14:22 ]
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Grim... wrote:
What happened to Orks?


Oh, for Fucks sake! *punches self in face*

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 14:22 ]
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Er, whoops? What did I say?

(Is it Orcs?)

Author:  NervousPete [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 14:27 ]
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New Dawn of War 2 screenshots up on Eurogamer.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=130352

Oooh!

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 14:28 ]
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That looks fit. I love the screenshot of Warlords that has just snuck in there.

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