The best thing about the Wii is that it plays Gamecube games. I'm struggling to think of one plus point for the Wheeooo.

It hasn't been released yet. Not exactly fair to be judging it yet.

It hasn't been released yet. Not exactly fair to be judging it yet.

List them!

Games running in proper 1080p
Better graphics, framerates (I sound like ArseholeExasperation, don't I?)
More HDD space
Kinect 2 that works in proper-sized living rooms
Blu-ray for Xbox so that we don't have to have multiple discs
Quieter/cooler (or at least less prone to blowing up)
A better Playstation control pad

That's just off the top of my head. The Wii U seems to be a cross between a Wii and a 360 with a horrible looking single touch control pad.

The list is lacking "Good games" which is really the only thing that matters. I wouldn't buy on the basis of that. And is pretty much what the wii was missing for the most part.

The list is lacking "Good games" which is really the only thing that matters.

Oof. That's soured it a bit for me.

Seems expensive

Haven't you just paid £30 for a cable?

If only. The Wii had at least two good games I was interested in (Okami and Zelda) and I gave up part the way through both of them due to stupid, useless, waggly fucking motion controls. On any other platform good games is the defining factor no doubt; but Nintendo have managed to ensure that someone can make an otherwise excellent game...and it can still be a pile of unplayable toss due to the fucking Wiimote! Woo-hoo!

Lack of a sensor bar in the basic pack is farcical. Yes, they can easily be bought (and they are dirt cheap) but given that one is in the Premium pack AND the Basic and Premium packs in America, this is just penny pinching by Nintendo.

Not everyone has a Wii that they can nick the sensor bar from (when they realise that they need one and their basic pack doesn't have one).

It's certainly fair to say that they made it quite a bit harder to make good games, given they had to be designed for a really rather innaccurate and limited control system. I'm still not entirely convinced it wasn't doable - it's just that people noticed they didn't need to bother and made shitty mini game collections and fitness games instead.

Then again, I'm eyeing the next xbox with a certain amount of doubt currently.

You mean because of Kinect being built in? I'm not too worried about it, there'll undoubtedly be some shovelware produced because of it but the Xbox as a range of consoles simply isn't built on it the same way the Wii is so I think developers will carry on seeing it as a purely optional thing that same way they do now; whereas with the Wii everyone seems to think it's fucking illegal to make a game you don't waggle something around in or whatever. MS will push it no doubt, and it does have potential to be useful as the Wiimote does, but I don't think it'll come to define the platform or anything and as long as it doesn't then we'll keep getting proper 'normal' games I reckon.

Yeah, I totally agree with this. The fact that the motion controls were available didn't necessarily mean that developers had to weld them badly to every game under the sun...but they did, and that's what fucked it for me. Zelda had a couple of mechanics that made decent use of the Wiimote but there were still loads of places it made things harder than just an analogue stick and some buttons would have done and when your control system is a barrier to the user and game interfacing rather than a mostly invisible enabler then you've made an arse of it.

Has anyone tried playing a FPS with the Wiimote? The Conduit could have been an alright game but it was ruined by the controls. It was impossible to control.

Has anyone tried playing a FPS with the Wiimote? The Conduit could have been an alright game but it was ruined by the controls. It was impossible to control.

Metroid Prime 3 might as well have been a FPS; there seemed an awful lot of shooting, in first person.

It was tiring on the wrist when playing for long periods and not because of the waggling, flicking etc but because you have to point the controller at the screen at all times. You can take your hand off a normal controller for a moment but with MP3 you kind of fix your arm in a 'floating' position where you find that sweet spot for the pointer. You'll be surprised how easy it is to get cramp rigidly holding your wrist in a fixed position.

Plus MP3 was utter dogshit.

Mainly as I fear that most games are going to be painfully generic and take no risks whatsoever (Beyond whacking in some completely irrelevent kinect control, as was typical of sixaxis stuff in early PS3 games). To say nothing of the pay to win DLC that I fear we may see plenty of on all consoles. Hope I'm wrong.

I'm just going to assume Trousers is getting one, and go round for an evening on it.

I imagine the power consumption of the Wii-umote will provide adequate heating for a moderate sized house.

Being able to carry on playing on the super-o-pad when the missus arrives and demands the TV to watch (some crap with vampires/some crap with phony forensic investigations/some crap with wannabe superstars) is a great idea.

I'm surprised that Nintendo are promoting that so highly as a feature considering not all games will support it.

You mean that I won't 'be' 'the controller' in ALL my games with a Kinect?

Nintendo's next generation games console is almost certain to sell out immediately in the UK, with retail sources claiming that only 25,000 Wii U systems will be available on day one.

A retail source connected to the matter told CVG that the group does not have enough Wii U units to fulfill pre-orders.
The 25,000 figure they provided was then put to a distribution source working at a separate retailer, who said the number was "in line with our estimates".

However, a third source at another UK retail chain said his team was expecting the UK to receive "anything between 75,000 and 100,000 units during the launch period".

"What we don't know is whether this allocation will arrive on day one or be distributed across a number of weeks," he said.

Nintendo was unavailable for comment when approached by CVG.