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Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed May 30, 2012 23:41 ]
Post subject:  Cyberpunk 2077

Okay, so CD Projekt, makers of the Witcher games, are apparently making a computer RPG of the old Cyberpunk 2020 pen and paper RPG.

I hope they don't update the style of the thing, it should be 80s-wires-everywhere-where-everyone-has-ridiculous-hair-and-big-leopard-print-guns style CP.

Oh, Trauma Team! They've got to be in it! And cyber-psychos! And rockers! And Solos!

Author:  metalangel [ Wed May 30, 2012 23:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Oooh, and it has a ridiculous timeline of riots and megacorporations!

*notes for work tomorrow*

Image

In the meantime, why not play Technobabylon?

Author:  WTB [ Thu May 31, 2012 0:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Well here's your leopard print:

http://i.minus.com/ikc0g3gyQOFrw.bmp

That's the only piece of concept art they released, apparently.

And here's what they promise:

http://www.abload.de/img/ib0zlje1nq0dq1uc7hu.png

They're one of the top top developers out there at the minute if you ask me. They play by their own rules, they've made a bundle off the Witcher games (they can take their time on this and give it some love), and they treat their customers with respect (for example, they updated the PC version of Witcher 2 in-line with the console version for free). This will probably be very good.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu May 31, 2012 8:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

PSYCHED.

Although I'm even more psyched for Shadowrun Returns: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/161 ... un-returns

Author:  Cras [ Thu May 31, 2012 8:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Really? Because the only shadowrun attempt to date has been appalling. I still think Necromunda is ideal IP for something like this.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu May 31, 2012 9:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Craster wrote:
Really? Because the only shadowrun attempt to date has been appalling.
1) I adored the pen&paper game. I still have fifty or so sourcebooks in my attic.

2) You're wrong, because you've forgotten the really good SNES game.

Author:  Cras [ Thu May 31, 2012 9:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Ah - I've already told WTB that all Nintendo games are shit. I can't back down on that now.

Author:  metalangel [ Thu May 31, 2012 10:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Craster wrote:
Ah - I've already told WTB that all Nintendo games are shit. I can't back down on that now.


Don't worry, there's also the completely different Sega version that most people didn't know existed, and... er... apparently a Sega CD version that even I didn't know existed!

Author:  WTB [ Thu May 31, 2012 12:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Craster wrote:
Ah - I've already told WTB that all Nintendo games are shit. I can't back down on that now.



:D

Author:  Rodafowa [ Thu May 31, 2012 12:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
PSYCHED.

Although I'm even more psyched for Shadowrun Returns: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/161 ... un-returns

This.

Chummer. Or choomba.

Pleased to see that there will be a character creator. Fingers crossed that the totally impractical roles from the pen and paper game will be in, because I always found the Rocker class completely hilarious.

Author:  Morte [ Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Shadowrun Returns is out on Steam this week. Turn Based Goodness.

/Crosses fingers and mutters "Please be good, please be good"


http://harebrained-schemes.com/shadowru ... n-returns/

Author:  Morte [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 16:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Oooo, sounds like a winner

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/07 ... n-returns/

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 17:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

It's reviewing very well. 12 hour main campaign is a thumbs up from me -- I might actually finish it. I'll be ordering it later via Steam for Mac. I'd consider the iPad version but I want to see the level editor.

Although discussing Shadowrun in the Cyberpunk 2020 thread is confusing me.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Mon Jun 11, 2018 17:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

CD Projekt Red went disturbingly quiet on their Cyberpunk game... But now they've released a trailer: and the aesthetic is definitely "the 80s but in the future" which excites me terribly!

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Aug 27, 2018 20:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

The hype train is real


Author:  Pundabaya [ Mon Aug 27, 2018 23:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Awww yeah!

Author:  LewieP [ Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

2077.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Aug 28, 2018 21:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

I am quite excited.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Yes please.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

The first post in this thread dates back to 2012 and the game is still years away from completion. Gulp.

Author:  markg [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

I read something that says it is fully playable from start to finish whatever that means. Maybe that's just the main storyline and they want to spend more time filling it out with more stuff.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

But there's also this:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018 ... t-about-it

Quote:
What platforms will Cyberpunk come out on?

Patrick Mills: The game will be coming out on Xbox One, PS4 and PC. At the moment.


I am not alone in reading that "at the moment" hedge as meaning "but it might slip to the next generation of consoles and/or it might ship cross-gen." It's difficult to imagine even the relatively mighty Xbox One X having the level of graphical detail that's in that gameplay video, which clearly came off a fire-breathing PC.

Author:  myp [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Or maybe it'll come to Switch too!

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The first post in this thread dates back to 2012 and the game is still years away from completion. Gulp.

This isn't the Star Citizen thread. GODDDDDDDDD.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 18:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2020

LewieP wrote:
2077.



I believe I made this thread before the title was known. In 2012. Before the initial teaser trailer.

In fact....*changes the title to reflect the important information as arguably the fact it is based on seminal RPG Cyberpunk 2020 is more Important than the mere title. Also outside chance that they'll have to change the title of the game because the release date is too close to 2077*

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 19:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Game based on Cyberpunk 2020

Don't be a dick. This is a thread about the CRPG, which is unambiguously called 2077.

Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Aug 29, 2018 19:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Game based on Cyberpunk 2020

I’ve not played the first one.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 13:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Delayed until September. Also

Quote:
As part of a CD Projekt Red press conference following Cyberpunk 2077's five-month delay, the Polish developer confirmed that it will be asking its employees to work extra long hours to finish the much-anticipated role-playing game ahead of its scheduled release in September.


What an impressive amount of research they are doing to make a game set in a hypercapitalist hellascape hellscape!

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 13:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

A hellascape sounds pretty cool.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 13:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Holla to the hella

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 16:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Fuck's sake.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 16:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

I have half an idea that we won't actually see it released.

Author:  Bamba [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 16:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Pundabaya wrote:
I have half an idea that we won't actually see it released.


So your theory is that they're going to work for years on their big new game and then just not release it? I'd put that half-idea back until it becomes a full idea because right now it doesn't make a lick of sense.

Author:  markg [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 17:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

I guess he means that it might be in some state of development hell and it'll never actually get finished. I don't think so, though. I think it's just an ambitious game of the sort that's prone to having a lot of bugs to chase down.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 17:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Pushing a game back six months with two months to go to the original release date isn't a great look, and stinks of "fuuuck fuuuck, we don't actually have a game! we have a few disparate levels but it doesn't hang together at all, and the plot's a fucking mess!". If they have to push it back further it also falls into the "but... what's the point of releasing it on current gen consoles?" trap. So either we get a Destiny 1/Anthem style "rip it to bits and jam it back together into kind of a working game" and hope to fix it later (which worked with Destiny, less so with Anthem) or it keeps slipping.

I hope it's just squashing bugs, but if it was that, why didn't they push it back earlier?

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Jan 17, 2020 18:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Perhaps they thought they'd be able to squash all the bugs in time.

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Bamba wrote:
So your theory is that they're going to work for years on their big new game and then just not release it?

Plenty of games get half-built and never released. Fable Legends is a good recent example, Silent Hills a few years ago, Star Craft: Ghost before that.

And Star Citizen at some point in the future ;)

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

So that's going to be six months of hellish crunch for the developers, on top of what they've probably already gone through.

The head of the studio is basically admitting as much.

Author:  Bamba [ Sat Jan 18, 2020 13:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
So your theory is that they're going to work for years on their big new game and then just not release it?

Plenty of games get half-built and never released. Fable Legends is a good recent example, Silent Hills a few years ago, Star Craft: Ghost before that.

And Star Citizen at some point in the future ;)


I can't speak to your other examples--though the fact that I've never heard of them didn't say much good about them--but Silent Hills never made it much past the teaser stage and was cancelled due to internal politics. This game has no such internecine issues and was very close to it's original actual release date so that's a really poor comparison.

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Jan 18, 2020 14:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

We don't have any idea what state of development Silent Hills was at, but it was three years "old" when it all fell apart.

And it's a perfectly good example of "big games get cancelled".

Surprised you never heard of StarCraft: Ghost, though.

Author:  Bamba [ Sun Jan 19, 2020 0:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

My point was that SH getting cancelled was under pretty unique circumstances which I don't believe can really get generalized to other games ('big' or otherwise). And certainly none of it's hassles apply here. Either way, given how close to release this was and the stuff we've seen of it thus far and the pedigree of the studio for making complex RPG games; to come out with "it's going to get cancelled!" versus "it just needs more polishing" comes across like a conspiracy theory. Could it be true? I mean, sure. Is it likely given the information we currently have? God no.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

I would certainly be very surprised.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Most people will have finished Final Fantasy by then so won't have to make the choice between the two game so that should shift a couple million more units, as that is out in April time I think.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Jan 19, 2020 15:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

That, Doom 2 and RE3make all come out around April, so I'm glad this has moved.

Author:  MaliA [ Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

I have a non-pro PS4. Is the (up to) jump toward PS5 worth the buying a console do we think, or is sooner, better? Or why not both?

Author:  Bamba [ Sat Jun 06, 2020 15:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

MaliA wrote:
I have a non-pro PS4. Is the (up to) jump toward PS5 worth the buying a console do we think, or is sooner, better? Or why not both?


Could you restate your question in a way that makes actual sense?

Author:  MaliA [ Sat Jun 06, 2020 15:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Bamba wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I have a non-pro PS4. Is the (up to) jump toward PS5 worth the buying a console do we think, or is sooner, better? Or why not both?


Could you restate your question in a way that makes actual sense?


Should I wait and buy on next gen, or is the gap too small to make it worth the outlay compared to my non pro PS4? Or shall I get it, and also get it on PS5?

Author:  markg [ Sat Jun 06, 2020 15:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Personally I'd wait, reckon it'll be loads better on the PS5.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jun 06, 2020 15:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

Also: none of us have any real idea, and we won’t until a week+ after launch when Digital Foundry do their thing. It seems quite possibly it’ll be a system killer and either run like a bag of shit or be badly cut back on PS4. But we don’t know.

It’s also possible that PS4 cross gen games might get free upgrades to the PS5 version. Microsoft have such a scheme for Xbox. Sony might follow suit.

Author:  Bamba [ Sat Jun 06, 2020 17:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Cyberpunk 2077

The loading times alone will be an argument to get it on the PS5 with it's SSD to my mind; it's a very safe assumption to make that they'll be shit loads quicker on the new console. Plus you should get 60FPS out of it on the new console whereas I would very much expect it to be 30 on the even the PS4 Pro. Although those are just slightly wild assumptions on my part of course and ultimately it depends how much you're desperate to play it sooner rather than later. I don't much care about games the instant they're released so am more than happy to wait and get the superior experience.

ETA: I'd be very sceptical of its performance on the base PS4 and if that's what you've got then personally I'd advise waiting until you upgrade to the next gen.

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