And I was expecting at least one answer to my question.
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| Author: | devilman [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:39 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: Is that when you get 7 up? Or something about re-entry? |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:43 ] |
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Is it when you get cocked by 100 bad men? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:44 ] |
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Is it about being bummed on a small bus between the airport and the plane. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:49 ] |
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Is it when you're a poorly funded government lass with problematic ablative shielding on your undercarriage? |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:58 ] |
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Is it a niche badminton fetish? |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:59 ] |
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Curiosity wrote: Is it a niche badminton fetish? I've already done that one. DURRR! |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue May 29, 2012 9:59 ] |
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Dimrill wrote: Is it when you get cocked by 100 bad men? Curiosity wrote: Is it a niche badminton fetish? Fail. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:00 ] |
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I'm not reading one atrociously laboured pun. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:01 ] |
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Then you're definitely on the wrong forum. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:08 ] |
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And I was expecting at least one answer to my question.
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:08 ] |
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WTB wrote: And I was expecting at least one answer to my question. Then you're definitely on the wrong forum. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:15 ] |
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Is it about flying on the space shuttle? #statingthingsobviouslywithoutoneiotaofmirth |
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| Author: | Slightly Green [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:16 ] |
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WTB wrote: And I was expecting at least one answer to my question. What question? |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:17 ] |
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WTB wrote: And I was expecting at least one answer to my question. It's because he's an annoying prick, and it's a shit book. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:18 ] |
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It's a great book, shut your cake hole! |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:22 ] |
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WTB wrote: And I was expecting at least one answer to my question. Okay. "The South" is an incredibly vague answer. Akin to asking your neighbour where the nearest chippy is and getting "Britain" as the answer. Also not all birds migrate to the same place. Here we get Barnacle geese from Iceland/Greenland/North America, Arctic Terns from Antarctica, Swallows and Shrikes from Africa, etc etc. Fecking loads of them. Asking where a particular bird migrates to is a valid question. You are hearing me talk. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:23 ] |
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WTB wrote: It's a great book, shut your cake hole! What's good about it? I just didn't understand why it was considered so marvellous. For me it's just an annoying, whining kid going around being miserable, offering no more a view on the world than any one of a million emo blogs. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:26 ] |
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Dimrill wrote: WTB wrote: And I was expecting at least one answer to my question. Okay. "The South" is an incredibly vague answer. Akin to asking your neighbour where the nearest chippy is and getting "Britain" as the answer. Also not all birds migrate to the same place. Here we get Barnacle geese from Iceland/Greenland/North America, Arctic Terns from Antarctica, Swallows and Shrikes from Africa, etc etc. Fecking loads of them. Asking where a particular bird migrates too is a valid question. You are hearing me talk. Wooooo! |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:27 ] |
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Curiosity wrote: WTB wrote: It's a great book, shut your cake hole! What's good about it? I just didn't understand why it was considered so marvellous. For me it's just an annoying, whining kid going around being miserable, offering no more a view on the world than any one of a million emo blogs. That's just bollocks. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:34 ] |
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Curiosity wrote: WTB wrote: It's a great book, shut your cake hole! What's good about it? I just didn't understand why it was considered so marvellous. For me it's just an annoying, whining kid going around being miserable, offering no more a view on the world than any one of a million emo blogs. I concur. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:36 ] |
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WTB wrote: Curiosity wrote: WTB wrote: It's a great book, shut your cake hole! What's good about it? I just didn't understand why it was considered so marvellous. For me it's just an annoying, whining kid going around being miserable, offering no more a view on the world than any one of a million emo blogs. That's just bollocks. Thank you for your detailed and considered answer. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:36 ] |
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A whining kid "going around being miserable"? Are you sure you read the book? |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:38 ] |
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Curiosity wrote: WTB wrote: Curiosity wrote: WTB wrote: It's a great book, shut your cake hole! What's good about it? I just didn't understand why it was considered so marvellous. For me it's just an annoying, whining kid going around being miserable, offering no more a view on the world than any one of a million emo blogs. That's just bollocks. Thank you for your detailed and considered answer. No offence, but I wouldn't call your summary detailed and considered either. I put as much effort into my response as you apparently did reading the book! |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:39 ] |
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WTB wrote: A whining kid "going around being miserable"? Are you sure you read the book? Caulfield is a doleful idiot that repeatedly fails to see, or grasp, the opportunities in front of him He acts like a petulant and spoiled child. He's a hateful character for these reasons. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:40 ] |
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Tess d'Urberville was a whiny little cow as well. I was pleased when she swung. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:41 ] |
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MaliA wrote: WTB wrote: A whining kid "going around being miserable"? Are you sure you read the book? Caulfield is a doleful idiot that repeatedly fails to see, or grasp, the opportunities in front of him He acts like a petulant and spoiled child. He's a hateful character for these reasons. That's the entire fucking point! He's desperately holding onto childhood and its innocence. He doesn't go around "whinging", though. That's not even accurate. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:43 ] |
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WTB wrote: MaliA wrote: WTB wrote: A whining kid "going around being miserable"? Are you sure you read the book? Caulfield is a doleful idiot that repeatedly fails to see, or grasp, the opportunities in front of him He acts like a petulant and spoiled child. He's a hateful character for these reasons. That's the entire fucking point! He's desperately holding onto childhood and its innocence. He doesn't go around "whinging", though. That's not even accurate. Yes he does. "Phoney this" and phoney that" whilst deciding he is cleverer than everyone and spending his school money on booze and a hooker whilst clomping around the city being a knob to everyone. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:44 ] |
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I wish you'd stop going on about it, Jonny. Just let it go. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:44 ] |
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Do you feel like killing John Lennon yet? |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:45 ] |
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I'll let it go. I'll let it go. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:55 ] |
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Which elements did you find particularly powerful? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:56 ] |
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Adamantium. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 10:59 ] |
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WTB wrote: MaliA wrote: WTB wrote: A whining kid "going around being miserable"? Are you sure you read the book? Caulfield is a doleful idiot that repeatedly fails to see, or grasp, the opportunities in front of him He acts like a petulant and spoiled child. He's a hateful character for these reasons. That's the entire fucking point! He's desperately holding onto childhood and its innocence. He doesn't go around "whinging", though. That's not even accurate. It has been 15 years since I read it, but that's certainly the impression that I have of it. He seems to hate everything and moans about it all the time, despite him having a decent life (from what I remember). The whole book just annoyed me, as he was an idiot who thought he was clever, and I just wanted to hit him with an axe as he went on and on being a miserably whining little bitch. Man the fuck up, Holden! |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:02 ] |
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Nowadays, he'd probably like the Decemberists, take an acoustic guitar to the park, sit under a tree and play Jack Johnson covers as he's "deep" and doesn't need this "modern life, man" whilst sipping a Peruvian lager, the sort of girls who promise everything but never put out flocking around him. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:05 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Which elements did you find particularly powerful? That's a bit of a leading question. I don't necessarily have to find something "powerful" for it to be good. Besides, I don't think it's particularly spectacular myself in truth. But it's a good book exploring some interesting themes about adolescence - the feeling of losing your childhood and heading into the real world, loneliness, etc. To call it "shit" and "emo" is just ridiculous. It's a modern classic. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:08 ] |
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Curiosity wrote: WTB wrote: MaliA wrote: WTB wrote: A whining kid "going around being miserable"? Are you sure you read the book? Caulfield is a doleful idiot that repeatedly fails to see, or grasp, the opportunities in front of him He acts like a petulant and spoiled child. He's a hateful character for these reasons. That's the entire fucking point! He's desperately holding onto childhood and its innocence. He doesn't go around "whinging", though. That's not even accurate. It has been 15 years since I read it, but that's certainly the impression that I have of it. He seems to hate everything and moans about it all the time, despite him having a decent life (from what I remember). The whole book just annoyed me, as he was an idiot who thought he was clever, and I just wanted to hit him with an axe as he went on and on being a miserably whining little bitch. Man the fuck up, Holden! I think you ought to read it again, or at least stop talking about it! 15 years is a long time. He doesn't moan about stuff at all. He just describes things like any narrator. Seems you're misremembering or something. Besides, he's a classic unreliable narrator. You're supposed to recognise that he's not as smart as he claims to be. You're supposed to find holes in his arguments and rationalisation. You're supposed to do that and work out what the author is trying to say, not get annoyed at the "he thinks he's so clever" fictional frigging character. He has failed out of a number of schools and is in the process of failing out of another. Of course he isn't as clever as he thinks he is. The novel practically draws you a diagram to the fact. It's not supposed to wind you up! |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:12 ] |
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It's not the worst book in the world, but it's certainly not a classic for me. It pales in comparison to the likes of 'To Kill a Mockingbird', '1984' or 'Brave New World'. In terms of calling it 'emo', I think that's a fair assessment. In the modern world he'd probably be considered emo. He moans and whines a lot, he is self-absorbed, is not half as smart and deep as he thinks he is, etc etc. There are other novels considered to be classics that I am not find of, but in those cases I tend to be able to work out why it is regarded so highly. I found 'The Great Gatsby' to be very dull, and again full of people I didn't care to read about, but it is very beautifully written. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:14 ] |
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Heh, in a BBC article, Finlo Rohrer wrote that some readers may dislike the self-obsessed central character and 'too much whining'. He does say phony and crumby a lot, doesn't he? |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:16 ] |
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WTB wrote: I'll let it go. I'll let it go. JahonneyLOL |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:16 ] |
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He does, yeah! And also, that's much better than what you said before. Nobody likes the same books - I just though "shit and emo" was a bit of a rubbish description of your opinion of the book. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:20 ] |
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WTB wrote: He does, yeah! And also, that's much better than what you said before. Nobody likes the same books - I just though "shit and emo" was a bit of a rubbish description of your opinion of the book. Well, I was holding back on writing more as I wasn't certain a civilised debate was going to break out from the surrounding flippancy. 
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| Author: | myp [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:22 ] |
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Yawnerama, Jonster. Isn't it about time you stopped banging on about this? Gawd. |
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| Author: | Wullie [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:29 ] |
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The Last Salmon Man wrote: Yawnerama, Jonster. Isn't it about time you stopped banging on about this? Gawd. Aye, shush you emo shit 
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:31 ] |
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I think "emo" is running close to "troll" for the "most abused word on the forum" award. But then I do have a remarkably high (I'm informed) emo tolerance. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:48 ] |
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Grim... wrote: I think "emo" is running close to "troll" for the "most abused word on the forum" award. But then I do have a remarkably high (I'm informed) emo tolerance. Some time in the past you posted a counter which looked through eveyones posts and totalled up the number of times they posted a specific word - however apart from someone winning by realising that Malc signed every post of his 'Malc' I cant remember anything else to search for to find it .... |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:54 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Zone One by Colson Whitehead I'll be getting those, ta.Did you read it, Dimmers? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:55 ] |
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Grim... wrote: I think "emo" is running close to "troll" for the "most abused word on the forum" award. http://man-the-fuck-up.co.uk |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:57 ] |
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Quite. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:58 ] |
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zaphod79 wrote: Grim... wrote: I think "emo" is running close to "troll" for the "most abused word on the forum" award. But then I do have a remarkably high (I'm informed) emo tolerance. Some time in the past you posted a counter which looked through eveyones posts and totalled up the number of times they posted a specific word - however apart from someone winning by realising that Malc signed every post of his 'Malc' I cant remember anything else to search for to find it .... Hmm. I think that started with Gaywood saying something about Nikachu going to Spain, and Nikachu retorting about bobble heads, and then Gaywood giving up numbers... I think I've thought of a specific word, hang on... [edit]Pow! |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Tue May 29, 2012 11:58 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Zardoz wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Zone One by Colson Whitehead I'll be getting those, ta.Did you read it, Dimmers? I got distracted by new Warhammer novels. I will do, though. |
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