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Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Hnnngh, Sens Fortress is such a bitch!

Got half way in though and after picking up a few items and turning the stone wheel thing a few times to open up some of the walls I got hit by a rolling rock that had no right being there. Who the frig resets the machine?!

I'll be back tonight/tomorrow to crack this.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
It took me so long to get through the fortress that I reckon I could do it blindfolded by now.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Heh, yeah it certainly got commited to memory the first time round. At least this time I know where I'm going and what to expect but that boulder SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE :'(

Had another crack at Wolfy Sif last night and died. My technique worked well but my sword was only taking slivers off him (my great balls of fire missed half the time too, it shook my nerves and it rattled my brain).
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 13:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Zardoz wrote:
Hnnngh, Sens Fortress is such a bitch!

Got half way in though and after picking up a few items and turning the stone wheel thing a few times to open up some of the walls I got hit by a rolling rock that had no right being there. Who the frig resets the machine?!

I'll be back tonight/tomorrow to crack this.


There are places that reset the firing direction. Most notable is one that leads down to the gold serpent ring.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 16:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Right, I'll be more cautious next time.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 17:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Zardoz wrote:
Right, I'll be more cautious next time.

Listen out for the sound of the firing mechanism being rotated, should warn you.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 17:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
I was too busy listening to the cries of the snake men begging me for mercy.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
OK
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 16:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Got further into Sens Gaff last night, but got squished by a boulder again (completely my fault this time). Decided a change of scene was in order so I went into the Catacombs. Made excellent progress down there getting rid of loads of Necromancers and the Iron Golumn before purposfully falling down a thin floor but forgetting a Black Knight was there. :facepalm:

At least I've grabbed some booty and I'll soon be able to fix me up a Fire Claymoor when I meet the next Smith. :metul:
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 17:16 ]
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When I got the the fortress my guy could survive a squishing from a bolder (although I'd have to hit the pimp cup afterward). Have you got a sneaky ninja man?
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 17:56 ]
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Yeah, I can take a boulder if my health is full.
Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 19:04 ]
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What about in the game?
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:53 ]
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Fantastic session last night. Got to the bonfire in Sens Fortress and managed to kill every bastard up top including the Iron Gollum without dying. I did have a human Phantom (who got slapped silly) and the Knight Phantom with me for the Iron Gollum though.

Now I just need to the Archives opened so I can get to the DLC bit.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:35 ]
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I opened your mum's Archives last night.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:38 ]
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That must have a big old list, considering the amount of things that have been through her inbox.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:42 ]
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Your Mum's a DLC.

Dick Lovin' Criminal.

And you can prefix the Criminal with Smooth if you like, I insisted she removed all body hair since the crabs incident.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:15 ]
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I went through your mum's Darkroot Basin to reach the Depths.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:23 ]
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I Anor Londod all over your mums Quelaag's Domain.

Wait, what?
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:26 ]
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Pah, mine is geographically correct.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 13:00 ]
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Amazing Belms above.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 13:44 ]
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My tanky build means that I'm now happily clanking around Anor Londo in the Black Iron Armour set.

Swanky clanky.
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 22:09 ]
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If there ever was a sequence of events in a game before to drive me into the "Fuck you, this WILL NOT happen again" mode it was this:

I was hopping about Undead Burg, and there were several "If you need help, gimme a shout" things about. I ignored them, and concentrated on leveling up a few times. "i'm cool, I'm leveling up to make stabbywivvaspear better" I thought. On the next time around I got invaded, and killed, by an awesome player with lots of tactical knowhow.

Dark Souls offered me the help. I said "no". Dark Souls said "Fine, I offered. Deal with this".

Brilliant. It hates me, but I will defeat it.
Author:  MrPSB [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:11 ]
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PREPARE TO SPERM (OR THE FEMALE EQUIVALENT), Dark Souls 2 announced for X360, PS3 and PC!!!!!111

So it looks like either the quick, cheap and dirty PC port sold OK, or they can't be bothered being bombarded with really well written letters of protest from typewrite owners.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:22 ]
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I hope that's not the subtitle.

I couldn't tell if that video footage was live action or pre-rendered on my mobile. Still, SQUEE! Probably due 2015 or sommuts.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:25 ]
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I'd be happy with MOAR DLC. You hear me From? MORE DLC while we wait. Oh, and no easy mode for poofs, either. Just concentrate on making it awesome and hard.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:27 ]
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... like I said to you mum.

*ahem*

Oh, no ones around. Well the mum of the next person who posts.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:14 ]
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http://kotaku.com/5966786/here-is-dark- ... ut-trailer
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 13:17 ]
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Yeah, your mum, Bobby!

Hashtag BURN!
Author:  Bamba [ Sat Dec 08, 2012 22:07 ]
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This is as good a place as any: I just started playing 3D Dot Game Heroes today (From Software's love letter* to the SNES version of Zelda) and you come across the 'From Cave' pretty early on which references Demon's Souls.



*By which I mean 'utterly shameless rip-off'.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
I have got to the DLC new area!

I am dead!

Hurrah!
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
I loaded this up again on Monday.

Ran around a bit and killed a few skellingtons. Was trying to get back to Capra Demon area, to give him another go with minimal armour so I could move more freely. Went past a tower that had a big knight at the top of it, and decided to go see if I could kill him.

Holy fucking shit this game has the worst camera angles of all time! The only way I could get up facing the right way was to have my view obscured by a massive wall. So I couldn't see him when he hit me. Despite having my shield up it staggered me straight away and he hit me one more time for the instakill.

It reminded me why I gave up on doing the Darkroot area. Effing walls obscuring the view just in time to die.

I can get that it's hard, and get that you need to die and boringly retrace your steps often, it's just the ridiculous cheap deaths due to the shoddy game engine that make this not worth it for me.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:25 ]
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Those knights are tough though to be fair.

The camera never stopped me from spanking them though.

Poof.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 13:53 ]
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Nor me. I imagine you weren't blocking, stupido! :kiss:

Hang on, that guy doesn't start moving until you're right up top. You know you can move the camera with the right stick? :kiss: :kiss:
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 14:13 ]
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I was woefully underprepared for my fight with Laurel and Hardy in Anor Londo last night.

Forgot the buggers can soak up spark damage. Luckily I had TWO phantoms helping me out so I actually had chance to reequip my pyro flame and toast the buggers.
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Also: Is it wrong that I quite enjoyed being killed by the Manticore in the DLC? It was just so nice seeing a new boss. :luv:
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 14:37 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Nor me. I imagine you weren't blocking, stupido! :kiss:

Hang on, that guy doesn't start moving until you're right up top. You know you can move the camera with the right stick? :kiss: :kiss:


I know you can. I was walking up the tower with my shield held up, and rotating the camera to try to ensure I could see him in time. As I was emerging, the camera decided to show me the inside of a wall. By the time it passed, he was swinging at me. The first blow hit my shield and staggered me; the second blow killed me before I had a chance to move or attempt to do anything.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 19:54 ]
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Sounds like a weird glitch. Ah well, stuff like this occassionally happens in most modern games. DS does struggle a little with tight corridors on occasion, mind. But then again I don't think I've seen a game that does a good camera in tight corridors; the camera always gets closer and closer to the character until it's almost in front.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Dec 12, 2012 19:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Zardoz wrote:
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Also: Is it wrong that I quite enjoyed being killed by the Manticore in the DLC? It was just so nice seeing a new boss. :luv:


Me too. It was quite exciting seeing what they've done - the fear of the unknown comes rushing back.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:24 ]
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Several attempts later and I beat him! Excellent battle too.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Realised there was a little higher ground on the far side near the exit so used that to my advantage


New area is pretty and scary.

Awesome.
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Just mashed through the Prison of Hope on Demon's and skewered the boss. I done rocked. And by "mashed through" I mean died umpteen times and took ages.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Sun Dec 16, 2012 16:41 ]
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Just got eaten by a fucking chest! Lol, amazing chest ahead! A fucking chest, all health gone in one go, FFS!
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Dec 16, 2012 17:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Bobbyaro wrote:
Just got eaten by a fucking chest! Lol, amazing chest ahead! A fucking chest, all health gone in one go, FFS!

I had that marked as a trap, so it it.

I wouldnt trust any xhest you meet from now on. Although not common, Mimics hit quite hard.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Dec 16, 2012 18:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
You can check if it's a fake by stabbing it. Do this with every chest from hereon in!
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 16, 2012 23:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Saturnalian wrote:
You can check if it's a fake by stabbing it. Do this with every chest from hereon in!

Do a two-handed leaping death lunge rather than a stab, though.

Mimic chests are never quite squarely-placed on the floor.
Author:  devilman [ Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:25 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
You can check if it's a fake by stabbing it. Do this with every chest from hereon in!

Do a two-handed leaping death lunge rather than a stab, though.

Mimic chests are never quite squarely-placed on the floor.


Plus they look slightly different -

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Attachment:
mimic.jpg
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 22:07 ]
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Ok, so since there's a release to fix mouse and keyboard on the PC version, I thought I'd give it a go to see whether the game works with such a control scheme.

No. No it does not.

To say nothing of the other 'fixes' they've put in to make it more a PC game like which, yeah, somewhat ruin the balance and the tension.

On the other hand, I've started a game as a dirty Zardoz. It's rather fun being quite so weak. (And it amused me that I had got myself rather well equipped and well placed and had unlocked the firelink->Undead parish shortcut without ever visiting Undead burg. So yeah, I'm not in favour of limiting the games options in the early game.)
Author:  TheCookie197 [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 21:32 ]
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I got loads of amazon vouchers, and as the 'prepare to die edition' is £18, I'm considering buying it. Is it worth it? Is it good enough for the price?
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sat Dec 29, 2012 23:21 ]
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Cookie197 wrote:
I got loads of amazon vouchers, and as the 'prepare to die edition' is £18, I'm considering buying it. Is it worth it? Is it good enough for the price?

Depends - Do you like games which require a certain amount of learning and experimentation to progress, and which hand your arse to you on a platter if you have not yet acquired the skills required (because you're almost certainly not going to have them to begin with)?

Can you cope with a game which is utterly unforgiving of mistakes? For example - No reverting to previous saves. Many actions cannot be undone and some have somewhat unfortunate consequences (e.g. attack an NPC). Easy to "lose" all the progress you've made.*although given that progress here is often more what you've learned than what you've earned, it's not so big a deal when you get your head around it.

Do you like games which reward exploration and investigation, and don't just put everything you need (including such things as plot) in front of you without said exploring.

Can you cope with a few rough edges in games which haven't received as large a budget as many AAA games?

If yes to all of the above: Buy it. It's really rather special indeed, and easily worth full price. Twice.

If no, then probably not worth so much.
Author:  Four_Candles [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 19:59 ]
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Just bought Dark Souls (PC version) with a Steam code (bought from Amazon.com for me by my brother in the US) and getting the fucking thing to work is like pulling fucking teeth.

Can you tell that I'm fucking annoyed? Damn right I am after farting around with this Windows Live POS for the past 3 fucking hours.

First, why is this fucking Windows Live shit required to play the fucking thing? Had to sign up with MicroShit, etc.

Secondly, even with Windows fucking Live installed the fucking thing just starts in a Window telling me to press the start button - which doesn't do a fucking thing.

So I do a bit of Googling and someone recommends uninstalling the Windows Live crap - which I do and now of course the game won't start at all.

So I try and separately re-download and re-install "microsoft games for windows live marketplace" - but that then says that it can't install.

For crying out loud.

Do I really need all this Microsoft Windows Live shit to play one damn game?

So, what to do?

Any ideas please?

Please excuse this irate message - I'm bloody annoyed!
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 20:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Windows 7?

You do need GFWL (it will crash without) as it handles various core functions, mainly multiplayer, unless someones hacked it to make it a non-requirement.

Talking of hacks: Highly recommended

And by start button, do you mean you plugged in a 360 pad, and pressed said button? (IF so, was the pad plugged in before starting the game)
Author:  Four_Candles [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 21:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Mr Dave wrote:
Windows 7?

You do need GFWL (it will crash without) as it handles various core functions, mainly multiplayer, unless someones hacked it to make it a non-requirement.


So it's even required if I want to play single player?

Quote:
Talking of hacks: Highly recommended


Thanks, will try that once I get the sodding game working.

Quote:
And by start button, do you mean you plugged in a 360 pad, and pressed said button? (IF so, was the pad plugged in before starting the game)


The pad (a wireless Xbox 360 pad for the PC) was already switched on before I started the game. All buttons working too (I tested them via the pad's Windows properties).
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Mar 31, 2013 22:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Dark Souls
Four_Candles wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Windows 7?

You do need GFWL (it will crash without) as it handles various core functions, mainly multiplayer, unless someones hacked it to make it a non-requirement.


So it's even required if I want to play single player?

Yeah - while multiplayer is the headline thing it does, it's far from the only thing.
On windows 7, you should be able to just use the live redistributable that came with Dark Souls, on 8 it's a bit more complicated.

Quote:
Quote:
And by start button, do you mean you plugged in a 360 pad, and pressed said button? (IF so, was the pad plugged in before starting the game)


The pad (a wireless Xbox 360 pad for the PC) was already switched on before I started the game. All buttons working too (I tested them via the pad's Windows properties).

Naively written input code leads to this problem in many games (Despite being important, this is often the area given to the new recruits...) but it is fixable
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questio ... o-die-edit
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