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It isn't a bad idea.
Physics is clearly broken here. there should be a draught, as the temperature differential between upstairs and downstairs islarge enough to make it work. But it isn't. Or this bourgouise thermometer I have doesn't work.

Are...are you trying to cool your house through convection?

Yes, I am. I'm all out of ideas. Apart from one.


I've opened the fridge door and am currently confused by the results.

I was parked under a tree today and the leaves were falling onto the car like it was a windy autumn day, what's that all about on a still august day then?

Fridge door open -> Fridge works harder -> Heat exchanger on the back of the fridge PUMPS OUT MORE HEAT INTO YOUR HOUSE.

The tree is shedding because it's not getting enough water.

Now a balmy 37c/99f where I am sitting. I have a electronic laser spot temp reader (for measuring my vivarium) so I can measure exactly how bastard hot it is in here.

Bubba Smith has died.

First Tackleberry, now Hightower.

Pish. Amateur.

I've never played a videogame. I don't even have a computer!

I know that, I was being silly. However, I'm not understanding your incredulity at cooling through convection.

We just go and sit in the room with aircon.

I just ordered the film version of Dead or Alive from amazon. For £1.54. And Super for £6. Shut up, crime. And teh SEGA games for the XBox, as I want the fishing game.

You don't need an Xbox: just get some string, a sharp bit of metal, and an infant to hand the rod over to if a licence inspector appears.

Inspector Morse to regenerate: Oxford's murder rate to rise.

Isn't the Sydney collar bomb hoax victim a little young for fake boobs? I know I should have picked up more than that from the story, but still.

Be very careful. I'm watching both of you.

Well - let's try this:

Did it work?

Cras - of course convection dosen't lower the temperature of the vessel in which it's occurring, but the movement of air gives a cooling effect, so he's not being as physics-ignorant as you usually are, grenade boy.

It's not a closed system! if he opens the windows at the top of the house, hotter air flows out of there and draws in cooler air through the door on the ground floor. It's a simple and well understood process, called passive ventilation, and has been employed in building design since forever.

Oh, I'm not denying the science is correct. I'm denying that the layout of the house, combined with the temperature differential, and the amount of flow, would actually produce any appreciable effect in your average house.

There was a 5% drop in temperature.

Was that before or after the sun went down?

Yeah, that was my second point, which I wrote in invisible typeface.

Even if it was a closed system, Cras was wrong, was my point - because I think what he was getting at was that convection is just movement of air, not cooling, despite the fact that air movement over a person causes them to feel cooler. So he's doubly wrong.

Compared to a closed up room with an unshaded south facing window? Huge difference.

Though subjectively you might not feel any cooler if the outside temperature is too hot anyway, especially if you've been running about opening windows. But it does work.

Wrong how exactly? I didn't dispute convection, I disputed whether Mali's house would feel any cooler.

Last night the upstairs of my house was 4 degrees warmer than the downstairs.

Which is good news otherwise I probably wouldn't have slept at all.

Hey, nerds.

(a) wrong because it would cool the air in the house, as it's bringing in cooler air from outside;

(b) wrong because the movement of air makes you feel cooler, even in a closed system, otherwise desk fans woudn't work; and

(c) wrong because your face.

Such little cooler air as to be virtually unnoticeable



If he was standing on the stairs, directly in the path of air flow, I might allow a barely noticeable cooling effect. Not if you're sitting in the front room though.




Well, quite.

For enhanced cooling, set up a hose to spray a very fine mist of water in the vicinity of the open back door. The evaporation will knock several degrees off (very noticeable on hot and dry days) before the air is drawn into the house.
A combination of that and shading all sun facing windows and you'd be a lot more comfortable.

Anyway, it's currently 14 deg C here and raining.

Just removed his blog from Reader. His populist 'bring back the noose' campaign has pissed me off no end, and it's about time I stopped reading his infantile stuff anyway.

Anyone campaigning to bring back hanging needs to be arrested on trumped up charges by a corrupt police officer and then hanged.

Quite. And there is something contradictory about people who spend their time campaigning that the state is evil and useless trusting the same authorities to hang the right person.

S'up?

Am I going to have to get my stabbin' knives out and hunt down some bitches for daring to do this?

Remorse.

I'm agree with this. She would never do that, it's just not her character.

FTFM

(Incidentally, I've heard good things about a stage production featuring Colin Baker as the eponymous inspector)

You monster.

Oh, so electricity is OK to drive our cars but evil when used for aircon? THIS IS JUST A HYPOCRITICAL GREEN CONSPIRACY

Disingenuous. Everyone knows that air conditioning runs on the tears of orphans and baby seals.

You can power it by connecting a dynamo to a ceiling fan

Please regale us with more tales of corner shelves.

I was being slightly ironic BUT! Aircon use as a band-aid for poor building design or use is a real source of energy wastage.
Especially when you have badly specced systems underperforming or people leaving windows open and letting the cold out, and all that.
Not to mention the refrigerant effects on the atmostphere (although that improved these days).

I wasn't even aware that this was bubbling along in the background. I'm only pleased that it's the silly season, and those MPs making comments appear to struggle to have thoughts of their own.

Oh, very much silly season stuff (as well as attentions seeking by Paul StainesGuido). Can never happen anyway due to our treaty obligations, and would be a hell of waste of Parliamentary time.

No doubt my in laws will have things to say on the matter later on.

The new Humble Indie Bundle 3 is quite excellent value now they're chucking in the previous Indie Bundle's contents if you pay "more than the current average."

I've still not even played anything out of the Indie Frozenbyte Bundle I bought. Hrm.

Ask him if it should be brought back for convicted drug dealers and drink drivers.

And bankrupts. Especially, if a person was a convicted drink driver, a convicted drug dealer and a bankrupt.

I'm sure his response would be most enlightening.