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 Post subject: Re: The pointless emulation thread - fruit machines
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 17:31 
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According to the Scottish guy who sounds anything but cheerful the skill shots are a lot harder on the emulator due to a slight delay between you hitting the key and it stopping.

I am surprised you didn't use that excuse as well :)

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They're definitely harder in the emulator although I don't think there's any emulator lag involved, it's a combination of many things to my mind, the lack of a physical machine and buttons, PC monitor instead of traditional bulbs, less 'travel' for the skillstop itself (i.e. a monitor is a lot smaller than a real machine), but also of course just being the best part of 30 years older than I was when I used to be shit hot at skillstops.....


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Forgot I had this in the garage old school 1950's gambling


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More fun than £100 jackpot AWPS :D


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£350+ out of a '£70 jackpot' AWP.....



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Will you be uploading the GAM & Ram files for it?


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£350+ out of a '£70 jackpot' AWP.....


Will you be uploading the GAM & Ram files for it?


I can whack them up over at DIF if you want, it wasn't a particularly exotic autoplay but I guess it'll save you whacking a couple of grand through it.


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Online casino wagering insanity.

The time I took on a £122,000 WR at Tropica. Reupload with a new intro and outro.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 15:59 
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Bloody hell, that Cops 'n Robbers thraping was an eye-opener, and no mistake. What the hell was the hopper size on these things; would they not simply go IOU paying out £300+ banks? (I'm assuming that much of the cash you staked to "buy" the third invincible board, which was a long time coming, would've gone down the back and into the cashbox?)

Man, and I used to think dead as dodo £15 JPMs were bad...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/nhttp://www.bbc.co ... s-43455480

Gambling Commission has said that FOBT should have a maximum £30 stake for all none slot games

Also, said that slots should be no more than £2 a spin

Looks like this is something the government will consider not necessarily implement, they could go for a lower stake.

GC also recommend that there is proper control such as session limits with a block on game play once the limits have been reached

This will kick the bookies profits for sure as most of it comes from £100 roulette and £50 slot games


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Fuck the bookies. Evil exploitative, life ruining industry


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:31 
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The casino play through bonus was an epic achievement I think and great to watch.

I should perhaps give these types of videos a miss in future though as I am starting to feel the urge to try my own experiments.

There still seem to be some very generous bonuses offered by some of the myriad of casino websites.

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Considering the bookies go on about gambling being fun and entertaining, it does rather seem at odds with them gouging their heaviest and most addicted gamblers for as much as possible. I have no sympathy whatsoever if measures are brought in to curb their profits from these machines.

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“Fun” = £50 per spin. Fifty quid every 3 seconds.

Could these shysters be any more transparently malign? This has been going on for years!

The online Casinos can GTFF as far as I’m concerned as well; for me, they’re in precisely the same category as bookies infesting every decaying street corner. Yup, the terrible social consequences of Labour’s great deregulation of the gambling ‘industry’ are now, all too painfully, clear to see.

I guess we’ll chalk that one up as “unforeseeable” too, right?

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The casino play through bonus was an epic achievement I think and great to watch.

I should perhaps give these types of videos a miss in future though as I am starting to feel the urge to try my own experiments.

There still seem to be some very generous bonuses offered by some of the myriad of casino websites.


Yes it was one of my better efforts, it wasn't so much the cash as the intellectual exercise in beating what everyone was telling me was an unbeatable bonus, even if it did take me pretty much an entire weekend to wager the £122K. (I mean, not non-stop, I still slept and went out swimming with the family on the Saturday afternoon and suchlike, but if I was in the house, The Back Nine was running.)

I'm starting to consider logging into my old 3Dice account to see if my VIP status is still the same, as all their VIP bonuses were nicely EV+. Would make for a decent session and some fresh content for the channel...... :o

I could pipe the output to my new telly and have the world's biggest slot machine :DD


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The online Casinos can GTFF as far as I’m concerned as well; for me, they’re in precisely the same category as bookies infesting every decaying street corner. Yup, the terrible social consequences of Labour’s great deregulation of the gambling ‘industry’ are now, all too painfully, clear to see.


I wouldn't put online casinos in the same bucket as bookies, online slots are a lot less immediate than FOBTs in the bookies, and they don't proliferate in town centres (specifically less well off places) and have a negative impact on the whole area.

I'm not saying they're a 'good thing', but there are degrees of undesirability in this scenario IMO. I'd definitely get all advertising for online casinos off telly though, and other media outlets.


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I'd definitely get all advertising for online casinos off telly though, and other media outlets.


I'd certainly approve of that. Right now, I'm self-excluded from pretty much all of the well-known online casinos, and plenty more obscure ones, but back when I was watching more football, I'd sometimes see gambling sponsorship for one I'd not heard of and that would plant the seed in my head again.

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 Post subject: Re: The pointless emulation thread - fruit machines
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Bit of a distasteful new fruit machine, called 'TOP TRAMPS'.

Has feature names such as 'Under and Odour', 'Spare Change', Shooting Up', 'Hot Soup', 'Wino Lot' and 'Kicking Pigeons'.

Artwork contains images of tramps called 'Scabby Abby', 'Special Pete' and 'Crack Charlie'.

Effortlessly making fun of homelessness, alcoholism and drug addiction in one tidy package.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 18:27 
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Those pictures are the right way round on my computer.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 21:23 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:35 
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I am loving the comment sections on your videos. There is generally someone who knows a better emptier or exploit but never willing to share it.

Too many Dr Who watchers who must believe in timey wimey stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 13:17 
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Watched them both this morning. Cheers. Very enlightening. And yeah, you made loads of mistakes dude. Holding wins, etc. I think that is why it puckered up the first time around.

The only emptier I ever saw was a bug in the program code. I just had a brain fart.. Everyone's a winner? MPU4, yellow cab, lottery ticket.. My mate got a lottery ticket and it stuck on paying jackpots. IIRC about £230 came out before the attendant came and switched it off. But that, AFAIK was just a freak. Typical he got "screwed' though (well, depends on how much £230 from £1 is getting screwed). They did accuse him of cheating too, but I was not having any of that. We didn't even know what emptiers were.

I've been watching all of your vids. I've not subbed or commented for the obvious reasons. But I get you in my news feed every day :)

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Yes but that's the whole point, the video showed how I learned how to do the method properly during its run time, and yet I had people jumping down my throat in the comments saying 'I've just watched the first £6 and you're doing it totally wrong'. (Before the runtime of the video had even elapsed from me publishing it.)

Many of those who did watch the whole thing then claimed it wasn't a method at all, that I was just taking the streak pot, and that I'd basically fabricated the entire thing.

Two videos later where I take nearly £400 out of a £10 jackpot machine appears to have silenced that noise, at least.

There's someone out there who appears to take a bizarre pleasure in disliking my videos, like, I'll do an upload of a video that's over an hour long, and within 3 minutes he/she has given it a dislike.


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Well let's face it after what we have both witnessed in the past 18 years you can hardly be surprised dude. It was only about five years ago that DS got all weird on FF threatening to post things from 10 years before. There's messed up people involved with fruit machines you can't really be surprised that one of them is holding a grudge..

That is why I got out. Like, totally got out. Deleted all of the means of contact I had with every one and just walked. And I am glad I did. It was all such a fruitless (pardon the pun) waste of my time. You spend literally five days of your life, 15 hours a day, to create something for people to slag off. Ridiculous. The levels of entitlement were just unbounded.

I just lurk in the shadows now. I have played the new MFME but literally for minutes rather than weeks. IIRC I played Homer's Meltdown for a bit, then loaded up some of my old ones and that's it. Doing things for myself seems to be much more enjoyable than spending the best part of a decade giving to others and sacrificing my own. Yeah, no thanks.

Just be careful mate. You and I? we forgive and mostly forget. Mostly because we are not completely deranged and thus have a limiter and levels of morals and respectability. But there are many people involved in that whole thing that do not have limitations. Jesus. phone calls to my boss trying to get me sacked, stalking, getting some one to pretend they were interested in buying my car to get my address? unfuckingbelievable.

It all seemed OK then but not now.

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On that last point I should say that before I always used to post on forums and everywhere else with my name - I was me and did not care who knew who I was

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 Post subject: Re: The pointless emulation thread - fruit machines
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Well let's face it after what we have both witnessed in the past 18 years you can hardly be surprised dude. It was only about five years ago that DS got all weird on FF threatening to post things from 10 years before. There's messed up people involved with fruit machines you can't really be surprised that one of them is holding a grudge..

That is why I got out. Like, totally got out. Deleted all of the means of contact I had with every one and just walked. And I am glad I did. It was all such a fruitless (pardon the pun) waste of my time. You spend literally five days of your life, 15 hours a day, to create something for people to slag off. Ridiculous. The levels of entitlement were just unbounded.

I just lurk in the shadows now. I have played the new MFME but literally for minutes rather than weeks. IIRC I played Homer's Meltdown for a bit, then loaded up some of my old ones and that's it. Doing things for myself seems to be much more enjoyable than spending the best part of a decade giving to others and sacrificing my own. Yeah, no thanks.

Just be careful mate. You and I? we forgive and mostly forget. Mostly because we are not completely deranged and thus have a limiter and levels of morals and respectability. But there are many people involved in that whole thing that do not have limitations. Jesus. phone calls to my boss trying to get me sacked, stalking, getting some one to pretend they were interested in buying my car to get my address? unfuckingbelievable.

It all seemed OK then but not now.


It's a lot calmer now than it was in the days of FF don't you think? I'm not really involved too much so could be wrong I guess!


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It's a lot calmer now than it was in the days of FF don't you think? I'm not really involved too much so could be wrong I guess!


To be completely honest (and I am, I have no reason to lie) I check in on the forums every 3 months or so. I just check to see if Step 'n' Skip has been released really. I have grabbed a couple of machines but they just bore me very quickly. So in all honesty I would really have no idea even if something was going on (like the last few wars, I've stayed well clear).

I know a few things that have happened to the people involved since 2006, and some of their lives have improved I would say and some not. I also heard that Tim (Bugs Bunny) had died. I don't know how much truth is in that so take it with a pinch of salt but yeah, apparently he is no longer with us, which would explain his absence really. I got told that in a Skype convo a few years ago. Which made me want to stay away from it even more.

But now that Chris is being open and honest I guess every one else can too, and there really is nothing left to argue over, leak, hide, etc. I bet you a million quid though if I returned there would be murder within a month.

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I don't really play the emulator. I downloaded a few layouts and tried out the autoplay but that was it really.

Fruit Emu seems like an almost friendly place (although newbies are still treated very badly by some). Desert Island Fruits is a great resource and friendly.

Wizard interacting with everyone really makes a difference to how the scene feels, but it is a lot smaller than it used to be and it is a lot easier to have a harmonious environment when there are less people involved.

Love the videos though, keep them coming :)

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Something of a tribute to one of FME's finest layout designers.

FEAT Tony from RLMS, the man with the world's most thankless job.



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A drunken Hearthly takes on an SWP (Skill With Prizes) machine he hasn't played in anger for the best part of 25 years.

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The Rifle Range is supposed to be like that dude. It would be too easy otherwise. It's like a sniper rifle in game, constantly moving away from you.

I never won a dime out of this thing, but man I loved it any way. So much fun.

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The Rifle Range is supposed to be like that dude. It would be too easy otherwise. It's like a sniper rifle in game, constantly moving away from you.

I never won a dime out of this thing, but man I loved it any way. So much fun.


Yes if you watch the video to the end I basically say I've got my head around it all again, TBH I was really quite squiffy on the initial runs, then I played it again with a clear head the next day :)

It's definitely not quite the same in an emulated environment though, even using a trackball. However a large part of my shitness on the early runs was down to (1) Being pissed and (2) Being desperately out of practice.


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Oh OK man sorry I was in a hurry this morning (bringing my Dianoga PC, Steelcase chair and Apple Cinema display to mum's for my bolt hole) and didn't have time to watch the whole thing.

Also, IIRC, it gets more wonky the more it pays out. IE - the jittering gets so hard you won't hit the back side of a barn door.

I've got a feeling that the ahole that sited the one I used to play set it to uber hard. I never won anything out of it, but it was fantastic fun to play either when you were bladdered or you had met a holiday girl and were playing it together :) Many happy memories :)

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First deposit to an online casino in four years.....

Here I examine the controversial slot 'BONANZA' by Big Time Gaming and express my opinions on it.

PLEASE NOTE - There is a commentary maths error at 26m57s and 28m11s, the correct figure is £9,600,000 and not £9,960,000. I only noticed this after I'd finished editing the video together, rendered it out, and kicked off the upload. (Small sherries had been consumed at the time of filming.)



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Some of my conclusions about the slot were INCORRECT.

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Last night's beer infused encounter..... (Many snakebites, specifically.)



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Inspired by a few of your most recent vids, I have been playing the fruit machines on kwiff (app)

The coins system confuses me and also the various stake options. I just thought I had won £9 on a low stake but actually I won £90 on £1.50 a go.

I think I should retire gracefully at this point :D

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Some seriously shady behaviour in a new online slot.



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I don't normally watch your videos (nothing personal, I just don't need exposure to slots as I'm struggling on that front at the moment), but I was just doing some work on a friend's laptop so had your video on in the background. I'm certainly not a fan of that feature-buying though, although I'd probably end up dropping my stake to the absolute minimum so that 50x wasn't so much of a hit.

When you refer to the advice given in the help text, it doesn't necessarily say the best tactic is to gamble up to 24, just to gamble, so I don't know how much of a difference it would make if you always stopped at 12 or 16. It did look a rather dull slot though, so no danger of me playing it anyway.

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The RTP (Return To Player) is actually highest if you do nothing except buy features and then gamble as far as you can.

So on 20p per spin (the minimum stake) it costs £10 to buy a feature, which you can lose in a few seconds on a spin of the free spins gamble wheel.

At £1 per spin (£50 feature buy) I lost over £3000 of demo money in about 90 minutes playing like this. It makes the slot massively volatile so you're either going to win big or lose your shirt. Very quickly.


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My point was that the help text doesn't say to gamble as far as you can with the spins, just to gamble, so I wondered if there might be a kind of sweet spot of spins to collect.

I see that someone else did their own little study on the payout rates of 100 features.

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The help file says 'The optimal strategy is to ALWAYS spin the feature gamble wheel'.

(My emphasis.)

It also makes it clear that the RTP is higher when buying the feature and gives a range of T-RTP, taking those two things together you are best off always buying the feature and always gambling as far as possible. Played like this the slot is massively volatile and will take you apart in no time whatsoever if it goes wrong.

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Here is some Eastenders.

Includes poignant tale of gambling addiction in the 'Jackanory' section.

00:00 - 05:55 = Intro
05:55 - 19:34 = Jackanory with Degsy Degworth
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 18:05 
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 Post subject: Re: The pointless emulation thread - fruit machines
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 18:42 
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REAL MONEY GAMBLOR.

I bought 20 features on the slot 'White Rabbit' at £20 a pop.

This is what happened.



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 Post subject: Re: The pointless emulation thread - fruit machines
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 18:12 
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More splendid old Crystal Maze action.



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