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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 23:21 
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CLEGANEBOWL was epic though.

Remember when the Hound realised the futility of the cycle of violence and lived a simple life as a builder and farmer for a season and appeared to be one of the characters who can learn and grow from his experiences? What happened to that guy’s story? “Guy returns to violence that kills him” could a valid ending but... why did he do it? He was driven back to it, reluctantly, after the people he was living with were killed. But then the reluctance vanished without trace and he was right back to the same character we started with.


Nah, piss on that. It was an obvious case of him trying to be someone else in a futile attempt at escaping his own nature.

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I have mixed feelings. Most of them are "why is everyone suddenly a massive twat".


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So, err, how many kids were called Daenerys over the past few years? That going to be awkward.

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I agree with Doc G. It was pants. All of the character element has gone, and now it's just 45 minutes of deeply repetitive fighting and ZOMG WHAT A SURPRISE plot "twists".

Bullshit.



Still, all that being said, it's probably better than where Martin has been heading with the books (although he'll likely die before he finishes them, the lazy bastard).

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While we’re on the subject of “I see where we were going with this story but we got there via the laziest writing”: what the hell happened with Arya? Eight years we’ve been watching her transform into an implacable assassin, watching her soul leech away as she becomes colder and colder. Wondering if this is it for her or if she can turn it around, remember what it is to be human and to defined by more than war and hatred (as I type this I think she might serve as a decent metaphor for the whole of Westeros.)

And when eight years of relentlessly ratcheting pressure on her came to a close, what was the dramatic culmination? The Hound said “don’t” and she said “okay” and skipped off. Thirty seconds and we’re done with that story.


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Stop watching the radio edit ;)

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No to be fair, it wasn't all fighting. About 35 minutes of it was tedious brooding and signposted PLOT TWISTS.

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Hmmm... I can't be the only one who failed to realise that Varys and the little girl at the start were attempting to poison Dany, can I?


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Hmmm... I can't be the only one who failed to realise that Varys and the little girl at the start were attempting to poison Dany, can I?


No, I didn't

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Hmmm... I can't be the only one who failed to realise that Varys and the little girl at the start were attempting to poison Dany, can I?


No, I didn't

"She's not eating"
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While we’re on the subject of “I see where we were going with this story but we got there via the laziest writing”: what the hell happened with Arya? Eight years we’ve been watching her transform into an implacable assassin, watching her soul leech away as she becomes colder and colder. Wondering if this is it for her or if she can turn it around, remember what it is to be human and to defined by more than war and hatred (as I type this I think she might serve as a decent metaphor for the whole of Westeros.)

And when eight years of relentlessly ratcheting pressure on her came to a close, what was the dramatic culmination? The Hound said “don’t” and she said “okay” and skipped off. Thirty seconds and we’re done with that story.

She's going to kill Dany. You know it to be true. Jon's not a murderer


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Apart from that time he murdered someone by chopping his head off.


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She's going to kill Dany. You know it to be true.
Not saying you're wrong, but if so, what was the point of the scene this week with the Hound paternalistically growling "don't choose this life, girl"?

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My ending prediction: face-off between Jon and Daenerys. Daenerys tells Drogon to burn Jon. Drogon refuses and sides with Jon. This final rejection and betrayal either drives Daenerys over the edge into insanity and someone (Jon or Arya being likely candidates) have to kill her [2]. Or she has a moment of clarity, recognises she is turning into her father, and kills herself to escape madness. Jon tells Drogon to melt the Iron Throne [1], finally breaking the wheel. He institutes some sort of ruling coalition of the leaders of the great houses. Sansa or Tyrion for "prime minister" of that.

[1] the carnage at the Red Keep has helpfully destroyed the throne room but left the throne in the open air, so they can get a dragon to it.
[2] as in, she rushes at them with a dagger or something.


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AND ANOTHER THING

The entire face-off scene between Daenerys and Cersei last week.

(a) why didn't Cersei just kill Daenerys there and then? I cannot believe, after all we've seen from her, that she suddenly grew some respect for the rules of parlay. Those fuck-off great big crossbows could have killed Daenerys's inner circle at a stroke. (The only answer I can see is: because the plot demanded it, and consistent characterisation be damned.)

(b) why did Cersei kill Missandei? As long as she was alive, she was a useful pawn to keep alongside her as a shield against sudden dragon attack, or to further threaten with torture. Think about how less likely Daenerys would have been to rampage through the keep if her best friend was still in there. I cannot reconcile this behaviour with the plotting, calculating, clever Cersei we watched for years, who would surely never spend this valuable opportunity for so little gain. (Again, I think the answer is: because the plot demanded it. Both to ramp up pressure on Daenerys and to make Greyworm tag along on her heel turn.)


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I loved the episode.

Thought Jaime’s ending was perfect.

Enjoyed Dany flipping as she had lost everything she ever wanted.

Thought CLEGANEBOWL was brilliant.

Thought Arya turning back was fine. She’s not suicidal, and Sandor made it very clear that nobody was getting out of the keep alive. She still has the struggle within her, but she wants to live, and her family is still the most important thing in the world to her.

Euron’s ending was slightly anticlimactic, but he did have a perfect final line; egotistical to the very end.

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Euron’s ending was slightly anticlimactic, but he did have a perfect final line; egotistical to the very end.

We didn't see him die, though. That makes me GAME OF THRONES SUSPICIOUS.

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Euron’s ending was slightly anticlimactic, but he did have a perfect final line; egotistical to the very end.

We didn't see him die, though. That makes me GAME OF THRONES SUSPICIOUS.


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Euron’s ending was slightly anticlimactic, but he did have a perfect final line; egotistical to the very end.

We didn't see him die, though. That makes me GAME OF THRONES SUSPICIOUS.

AND THERE WAS A BOTE RITE THEIR!


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(a) why didn't Cersei just kill Daenerys there and then? I cannot believe, after all we've seen from her, that she suddenly grew some respect for the rules of parlay. Those fuck-off great big crossbows could have killed Daenerys's inner circle at a stroke. (The only answer I can see is: because the plot demanded it, and consistent characterisation be damned.)

Your boy Grim... posited that after the episode.

I can only conclude that they were saving the crack shots for the dragon attack.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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She's going to kill Dany. You know it to be true.
Not saying you're wrong, but if so, what was the point of the scene this week with the Hound paternalistically growling "don't choose this life, girl"?

Because after that she saw loads of innocent die at the hands of a mad dragon lady and the Dothraki went pretty murdery.

And she got knocked on the head a bit too.

And dusty. So dusty.

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I really enjoyed watching it despite the sloppy writing. Some great visuals.

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This whole massacre of King’s Landing has got to be from George, init?

I can’t wait for next episode when Dany and Jon have a word and she’s like “Blimey, that got a bit crazy didn’t it?”


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This whole massacre of King’s Landing has got to be from George, init?

I can’t wait for next episode when Dany and Jon have a word and she’s like “Blimey, that got a bit crazy didn’t it?”


She flies in and is "great work, team!" And tries to Hi5 everyone

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This whole massacre of King’s Landing has got to be from George, init?

I can’t wait for next episode when Dany and Jon have a word and she’s like “Blimey, that got a bit crazy didn’t it?”


She flies in and is "great work, team!" And tries to Hi5 everyone


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MaliA wrote:
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This whole massacre of King’s Landing has got to be from George, init?

I can’t wait for next episode when Dany and Jon have a word and she’s like “Blimey, that got a bit crazy didn’t it?”


She flies in and is "great work, team!" And tries to Hi5 everyone

And Grey Worm responds enthusiastically.

"Fuck yeah! Killed me some Lannisters!"


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MaliA wrote:
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This whole massacre of King’s Landing has got to be from George, init?

I can’t wait for next episode when Dany and Jon have a word and she’s like “Blimey, that got a bit crazy didn’t it?”


She flies in and is "great work, team!" And tries to Hi5 everyone

And Grey Worm responds enthusiastically.

"Fuck yeah! Killed me some Lannisters!"


"They sent my girl straight back to Hollyoaks, so I sent them to Warrington IKEA"

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
(a) why didn't Cersei just kill Daenerys there and then? I cannot believe, after all we've seen from her, that she suddenly grew some respect for the rules of parlay. Those fuck-off great big crossbows could have killed Daenerys's inner circle at a stroke. (The only answer I can see is: because the plot demanded it, and consistent characterisation be damned.)

Your boy Grim... posited that after the episode.

I can only conclude that they were saving the crack shots for the dragon attack.

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I think that was just a visuals thing. They’re supposed to be just out of arrow range. Obviously if you account for the Scorpions they would have to be further back, but then it would take Tyrion fucking ages to walk to the wall, and Dany wouldn’t be able to hear Missandei telling her to burn the city down.

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Stop making excuses.
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Stop making excuses.
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It was ace. You just have no joy in your heart.

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I think that was just a visuals thing. They’re supposed to be just out of arrow range. Obviously if you account for the Scorpions they would have to be further back, but then it would take Tyrion fucking ages to walk to the wall, and Dany wouldn’t be able to hear Missandei telling her to burn the city down.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
I think that was just a visuals thing. They’re supposed to be just out of arrow range. Obviously if you account for the Scorpions they would have to be further back, but then it would take Tyrion fucking ages to walk to the wall, and Dany wouldn’t be able to hear Missandei telling her to burn the city down.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of your furious fanwanking.

Only DocG properly references his insults :)


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Only DocG is patronising enough to think the rest of us don't understand the words he uses :)

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Only DocG is patronising enough to think the rest of us don't understand the words he uses :)

I think we all know that is far from true

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Only DocG is patronising enough to think the rest of us don't understand the words he uses :)
oh, I dunno. I have a pretty good vocabulary and I had never heard the term before. I pretty much guessed what it meant before looking it up. Also, he’s a scientist. Citation is his 2nd middle name.

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Only DocG is patronising enough to think the rest of us don't understand the words he uses :)

I think we all know that is far from true

I mean, I guess it could have been an accident.

[edit] Wait, I'm an idiot :D

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She totally planned it waaay before the "crying on the wall" bit after torching the navy, and the scorpions, when she told grey worm "you'll know my signal".

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Well that's nonsense. Her signal was torching the golden company, at which point everyone charged, completely according to plan. Then, after they had won, she went mental and cooked a city of innocents for no apparent reason.

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen.

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