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 Post subject: Re: Game Of Thrones (TV)
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 22:07 
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 Post subject: Re: Game Of Thrones (TV)
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 22:31 
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I always wondered about the risks people took in naming children after characters with as get unfinished plots. A bit of a risk.

Also, am I the only person who doesn’t like the character of Arya? She just seems like a bit of a smart arse, and seems driven not for good or some overarching morals, but very personal revenge. Yes, she’s had a few good choreographed stunts, but I don’t like her very much. Or her sister. I used to like Danaerys but now she’s gone evil, her friend who is now dead. I don’t think I actually like anybody any more. Jon Snow seems nice, but I find it hard to believe he’s somehow alive when he just stands around surprised by everything.

I’ve run out of people to cheer for.

I actually found a lot of this episode very difficult to watch and turned away for about 1/3 of it.

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 Post subject: Re: Game Of Thrones (TV)
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Arya is fucking great. Except when she's just dodging buildings.

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Aarghh is a personal favourite as she is driven by revenge and hatred and that is the best kind of motivation.

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 Post subject: Re: Game Of Thrones (TV)
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Well that's nonsense. Her signal was torching the golden company, at which point everyone charged, completely according to plan. Then, after they had won, she went mental and cooked a city of innocents for no apparent reason.

So no, not in any way cooked up in advance.


No, that was the other signal. She directed the "wait for the sign" just at grey worm.

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 Post subject: Re: Game Of Thrones (TV)
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Arya is fucking great. Except when she's just dodging buildings.

Why is she great, though? I don’t know why people think she’s a great character and nobody seems to explain why they like her.

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Yes. The sign was the destruction of the Golden Company. You can tell that was the sign because it was the point at which Grey Worm stopped waiting and charged the city. He waited. Sign. He attacked.

Then the Lannisters surrendered. Then she went mental.

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Aarghh is a personal favourite as she is driven by revenge and hatred and that is the best kind of motivation.

Well, that’s why I don’t like her. Also she just seems a bit of a wise arse. I think the best bit about her was her relationship with the big guy with the burns.

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Arya is fucking great. Except when she's just dodging buildings.

Why is she great, though? I don’t know why people think she’s a great character and nobody hiseems to explain why they like her.


She got unbelievably shat on for three series straight. Her response to this was to decide that she wasn't having it any more, and she would find away of dealing with all these awful people on her own. And she was a 14 year old girl in a society that tells 14 year old girls they are worth nothing until they can be married off to someone.

And yes, her relationship with The Hound was character-defining for both of them.

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Also she’s a bad-ass.

As is Sansa, in a different way. Don’t mess with the remaining Stark kids.

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I don’t buy any of that. She didn’t seek to make anything right in a wider context. She didn’t want to kill those people because it would make a difference to the world or other people, she just wanted revenge. If she’d targeted the people that were using evil to control then far fewer people would have died. Being a ‘badass’ isn’t necessarily a good trait unless you use it for good.

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Ultimately, she's the baddie. The best thing the show has done is made us root for the Big Bad for 8 years, before making us hate her in the end. Stretched over more episodes, it would have been masterful


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Ultimately, she's the baddie. The best thing the show has done is made us root for the Big Bad for 8 years, before making us hate her in the end. Stretched over more episodes, it would have been masterful

Arya or Danaerys?

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Mimi wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Ultimately, she's the baddie. The best thing the show has done is made us root for the Big Bad for 8 years, before making us hate her in the end. Stretched over more episodes, it would have been masterful

Arya or Danaerys?


Danny V I think he means. Aarghh has become aargh, and has sorted her own stuff out as best she can to survive and found a niche. A face wearing, stabby niche, but it is a dying

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Regarding Danny V she is lady Macbeth in many ways, in that her attempts to rise to the top in such a biased will be thwarted by the ambitions of the men around her and then the narrative arcs against her. Hers is a tragedy

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I once wrote a 25 page essay analysing the decline in Lady MacBeth’s moral character throughout the play and let me say: wtf she’s not the protagonist Mali


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I once wrote a 25 page essay analysing the decline in Lady MacBeth’s moral character throughout the play and let me say: wtf she’s not the protagonist Mali


Gaslighted by the patriarchy, mate.

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As does Rikishi running over Austin.


See also: Austin turning heel and joining Triple H, who ordered Rikishi to run over Austin and Austin had previously tried to (wrestling) murder with a forklift.

Oh and the whole Higher Power thing, where Vince turned face to team up with Austin to combat the Corporate Ministry, and then immediately turned heel again to reveal that , yes he was the Higher Power that controlled the Corporate Ministry, despite the fact that it was impossible for that to be the case.


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 Post subject: Re: Game Of Thrones (TV)
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This is an excellent analysis of the shift in writing that GoT has had since they ran out of book content to base it on. I hadn’t thought of this angle but it makes a good case.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... f-thrones/


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