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Think of all the crisps you can buy with that £60.

You don’t even need an oven to eat crisps. Sell it, and use the proceeds to buy pies, con people out of mo ru using stunt pies and buy more crisps.

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When I was redecorating the sitting room late last year I noticed what looked for all the world like rising damp on an internal wall, which appeared mysteriously post decorating. I initially thought we'd accidentally pierced a radiator pipe screwing in the skirting, but on investigation and removal of all the blown render there was no pipe to be seen and the wall was solid brick anyway. I treated the wall with damp rods and left it to dry out over Christmas. During that period, more evidence of damp appeared around the front door and in the downstairs shower room, all affected areas close to one another. I thought "shit" we've got a leak somewhere in the water main, somewhere near the front of the house and it's likely to be buried in concrete somewhere.

Yesterday, I did some poking around all the exposed pipework I could find and finally removed the panelling at the back of the toilet in the downstairs shower room — it has a concealed cistern. Lo and behold, the tarbeck valve on the loo was blown and every time you flushed the loo, the valve pissed water all over the floor, which had been seeping through the cement and climbing up the walls when it reached them. I put new flooring down when I renovated the sitting room last year, which was glued down on top of the vinyl/marmoleum/lino floor that was already down throughout the ground floor, so the water was seeping under this to the walls and then rising up. Fortunately, other than some slight cosmetic damage to a couple of walls near the loo, there doesn't appear to be any lasting damage.

I fixed the toilet today, which fortunately had an isolation valve on the feed pipe so I didn't have to switch the water off.

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When I was redecorating the sitting room late last year I noticed what looked for all the world like rising damp on an internal wall, which appeared mysteriously post decorating. I initially thought we'd accidentally pierced a radiator pipe screwing in the skirting, but on investigation and removal of all the blown render there was no pipe to be seen and the wall was solid brick anyway. I treated the wall with damp rods and left it to dry out over Christmas. During that period, more evidence of damp appeared around the front door and in the downstairs shower room, all affected areas close to one another. I thought "shit" we've got a leak somewhere in the water main, somewhere near the front of the house and it's likely to be buried in concrete somewhere.

Yesterday, I did some poking around all the exposed pipework I could find and finally removed the panelling at the back of the toilet in the downstairs shower room — it has a concealed cistern. Lo and behold, the tarbeck valve on the loo was blown and every time you flushed the loo, the valve pissed water all over the floor, which had been seeping through the cement and climbing up the walls when it reached them. I put new flooring down when I renovated the sitting room last year, which was glued down on top of the vinyl/marmoleum/lino floor that was already down throughout the ground floor, so the water was seeping under this to the walls and then rising up. Fortunately, other than some slight cosmetic damage to a couple of walls near the loo, there doesn't appear to be any lasting damage.

I fixed the toilet today, which fortunately had an isolation valve on the feed pipe so I didn't have to switch the water off.


That’s a no, then?

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I thought this was going to be like when I thought there was damp in the bedroom of our old place in Whitley Bay, until I realised it was the lamp and window making a shadow where a clock would stand. It was only after a couple of weeks I noticed the damp patch moved ever so slightly over the course of the day.

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Snapman! Is there anything you can’t do?


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When I was redecorating the sitting room late last year I noticed what looked for all the world like rising damp on an internal wall, which appeared mysteriously post decorating. I initially thought we'd accidentally pierced a radiator pipe screwing in the skirting, but on investigation and removal of all the blown render there was no pipe to be seen and the wall was solid brick anyway. I treated the wall with damp rods and left it to dry out over Christmas. During that period, more evidence of damp appeared around the front door and in the downstairs shower room, all affected areas close to one another. I thought "shit" we've got a leak somewhere in the water main, somewhere near the front of the house and it's likely to be buried in concrete somewhere.

Yesterday, I did some poking around all the exposed pipework I could find and finally removed the panelling at the back of the toilet in the downstairs shower room — it has a concealed cistern. Lo and behold, the tarbeck valve on the loo was blown and every time you flushed the loo, the valve pissed water all over the floor, which had been seeping through the cement and climbing up the walls when it reached them. I put new flooring down when I renovated the sitting room last year, which was glued down on top of the vinyl/marmoleum/lino floor that was already down throughout the ground floor, so the water was seeping under this to the walls and then rising up. Fortunately, other than some slight cosmetic damage to a couple of walls near the loo, there doesn't appear to be any lasting damage.

I fixed the toilet today, which fortunately had an isolation valve on the feed pipe so I didn't have to switch the water off.


That’s a no, then?


There are plenty of things I can't do :) But most DIY stuff, property maintenance I can do and if I don't know quite how, I do research. Very little of it is that difficult. Some things are proper crafts, such as plastering, and I'll always get a pro' in if it's anything bigger than a patching job. I'll also defer to friends who are qualified in plumbing or electrickery if the job is complicated/dangerous, but domestically that covers only two things, like putting a new boiler in or wiring up new consumer units. You also need to be certificated to do this work. The rest I can do.

I play no musical instruments, I speak no other languages, I can't fly a plane or a helicopter, I can't sing... there's more, but I suspect you didn't want a list ;)

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Actually, a comprehensive list is great. It’ll help us all feel a bit better about ourselves.

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I thought this was going to be like when I thought there was damp in the bedroom of our old place in Whitley Bay, until I realised it was the lamp and window making a shadow where a clock would stand. It was only after a couple of weeks I noticed the damp patch moved ever so slightly over the course of the day.


Heh. I deal with a lot of people who mistake condensation for damp. Don't think I've ever had to deal with a shadow being mistaken for damp. I've become a bloody expert at differentiating between the two, largely to do with our house being built in the 50s, having no cavity wall and being semi-detached. Humidity in most houses is much higher than it should be and it does cause problems if it goes unchecked, including health issues due to mold spores

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Actually, a comprehensive list is great. It’ll help us all feel a bit better about ourselves.

You're a great mum and a great knitter and a very warm hearted lovely person. Two of those I can't do and one of them isn't my place to say, but I suspect even my close friends would never call me "warm" hearted ;)

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I suspect even my close friends would never call me "warm" hearted ;)

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Fucking plastering, man. At some point during plastering school you're taught the secret of slop that will stay firm on your hawk, turn to warm butter on a trowel and then glue itself to the wall like fucking epoxy.

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I suspect even my close friends would never call me "warm" hearted ;)

Oh, you have your moments.

:this: :) :luv:

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Fucking plastering, man. At some point during plastering school you're taught the secret of slop that will stay firm on your hawk and then turn to warm butter on a trowel and then glue itself to the wall like fucking epoxy.


Like I said, it's a proper craft and really fucking hard to do well. Or at least, it requires a lot of training.

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I suspect even my close friends would never call me "warm" hearted ;)

Oh, you have your moments.

:this: :) :luv:

Steady on! It's not even my birthday until tomorrow!

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Fucking plastering, man. At some point during plastering school you're taught the secret of slop that will stay firm on your hawk and then turn to warm butter on a trowel and then glue itself to the wall like fucking epoxy.


Like I said, it's a proper craft and really fucking hard to do well. Or at least, it requires a lot of training.

No, there's a secret.

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Fucking plastering, man. At some point during plastering school you're taught the secret of slop that will stay firm on your hawk and then turn to warm butter on a trowel and then glue itself to the wall like fucking epoxy.


Like I said, it's a proper craft and really fucking hard to do well. Or at least, it requires a lot of training.

No, there's a secret.

Which is?

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I don't know, they tell you at plastering school.


Not exactly true. You can also lip read Bill Murray whispering it to Scarlett Johansson in Lost in Translation.


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I don't know, they tell you at plastering school.


Not exactly true. You can also lip read Bill Murray whispering it to Scarlett Johansson in Lost in Translation.

"Jizz in the mix"


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Right?! The slop is either like water or sand - there's no in-between.

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How's your games room coming on?

Grim... Have you got me on ignore? :(

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How's your games room coming on?

Grim... Have you got me on ignore? :(

Yes.

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The games room progress has somewhat stalled, due to my wife not wanting to JUST GET ON AND SELL HER CHAIRS FFS but I did move a cupboard and put up some bias lighting.

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I put some usb powered LEDs behind my TV for a similar effect. Looks good man


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I like it. Lighting first, consoles second. Good work.

I have some lights that I think I need to make better use of. You've just given me some inspiration.


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I put some usb powered LEDs behind my TV for a similar effect. Looks good man

That's what I've used.

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My bath re-sealing went OK, if anyone cares ;) bit of a blob in one corner where there was quite a lot to fill and I got carried away but apart from that it's mostly smooth and even. Here's a terrible / boring photo: https://www.instagram.com/p/BdyOEqahGUf/

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I put some usb powered LEDs behind my TV for a similar effect. Looks good man

That's what I've used.

That's looking really good!

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My bath re-sealing went OK, if anyone cares ;) bit of a blob in one corner where there was quite a lot to fill and I got carried away but apart from that it's mostly smooth and even. Here's a terrible / boring photo: https://www.instagram.com/p/BdyOEqahGUf/

That looks really neat Jem - good work!

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My bath re-sealing went OK, if anyone cares ;) bit of a blob in one corner where there was quite a lot to fill and I got carried away but apart from that it's mostly smooth and even. Here's a terrible / boring photo: https://www.instagram.com/p/BdyOEqahGUf/

That looks really neat Jem - good work!

Thanks Jazzy :D It's made a surprising amount of difference to the bathroom, actually (well, that and a good clean :DD )

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Super work, Jem!

Can I ask what the round thing is? At first I thought it was a bar of soap, but now it looks like a button. Do you have some kind of ‘fun’ button on your bath? Lights, bubbles....

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My bath re-sealing went OK, if anyone cares ;) bit of a blob in one corner where there was quite a lot to fill and I got carried away but apart from that it's mostly smooth and even. Here's a terrible / boring photo: https://www.instagram.com/p/BdyOEqahGUf/

That looks really neat Jem - good work!

Thanks Jazzy :D It's made a surprising amount of difference to the bathroom, actually (well, that and a good clean :DD )


Yup, one of the biggest and best things you can do is a deep clean. Good work, especially when I know you are so busy already. :)

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Super work, Jem!

Can I ask what the round thing is? At first I thought it was a bar of soap, but now it looks like a button. Do you have some kind of ‘fun’ button on your bath? Lights, bubbles....

We have a spa bath thing - it was in when I bought the place. I have used it once in 6.5 years :DD

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Can I ask what the round thing is? At first I thought it was a bar of soap, but now it looks like a button. Do you have some kind of ‘fun’ button on your bath? Lights, bubbles....

We have a spa bath thing - it was in when I bought the place. I have used it once in 6.5 years :DD

We have one of those in our new place. Let's see how that goes! :D

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Kitcheb and Di in room emptied now and we await wall smashing and new. This is our kitchen/dining room/drawing room for next 4 weeks:

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I'm trying to persuade my wife to do this and I told her 2 weeks! Is 4 weeks a standard time for this or do you have other works going on as well?


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I'm trying to persuade my wife to do this and I told her 2 weeks! Is 4 weeks a standard time for this or do you have other works going on as well?


4 quotes had timescales of 3-4 weeks. Week 1 is structural building work, week 2 is plastering and running services, week 3 is interior decorating and week 4 is fitting kitchen.

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How much have you been quoted for it, dude? If we manage to get into this new house Jem's gonna be looking to do some wall smashing and kitchen refitting etc.


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I'm trying to persuade my wife to do this and I told her 2 weeks! Is 4 weeks a standard time for this or do you have other works going on as well?


4 quotes had timescales of 3-4 weeks. Week 1 is structural building work, week 2 is plastering and running services, week 3 is interior decorating and week 4 is fitting kitchen.

There will be a gap while you wait for the plaster to dry, but after that it only takes a couple of days to do the decorating and again to fit the kitchen (depending on type).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:40 
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Kitchen and Dining room emptied now and we await wall smashing and new kitchen. This is our kitchen/dining room/drawing room for next 4 weeks:


I'm trying to persuade my wife to do this and I told her 2 weeks! Is 4 weeks a standard time for this or do you have other works going on as well?


4 quotes had timescales of 3-4 weeks. Week 1 is structural building work, week 2 is plastering and running services, week 3 is interior decorating and week 4 is fitting kitchen.



Ah ok, the wall I would remove is plasterboard and none structural, the floor will need to taken out in the kitchen and redone as the levels are all over the place.

Had forgotten about plaster drying so I will revise my estimate to 4 weeks to be safe.

How are you planning to cook for the next month?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 21:48 
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