Rasslin'

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2012 14:44

Dimrill wrote:

For balance, I think there'd be a similar furore if a Brazilian wrestler went over to the States and desecrated "old glory".

And they'd be just as mental.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Curiosity wrote:

People commit crimes all the bloody time in WWE.

Such as? Every time they go on about there being an 'assault' in the ring, it's not actually a crime, because a) both parties have signed off on it, and b) it's staged.

You're confusing something that appears to be a crime with something that actually is a crime. Jericho kicking that flag was a criminal offense in Brazil, whether he was acting a bad guy role or not.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2012 19:13

Excellent blog post is excellent.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2012 19:25

Craster wrote:

Curiosity wrote:

People commit crimes all the bloody time in WWE.

Such as? Every time they go on about there being an 'assault' in the ring, it's not actually a crime, because a) both parties have signed off on it, and b) it's staged.

You're confusing something that appears to be a crime with something that actually is a crime. Jericho kicking that flag was a criminal offense in Brazil, whether he was acting a bad guy role or not.

I'm not confusing anything with anything. Crimes outside of the ring, running people down with cars, blatantly corrupt people in charge of a publicly traded company, assassination attempts, etc etc. All are 'crimes', and they stage them all the time.

That kicking a flag can actually be a crime is both hilarious and horribly repulsive, especially in one of the murder capitals of the world. That is one part of what I am saying.

The second is that WWE is staged. It is utterly illogical for any fan to get incensed about the actual person performing their role and want them suspended; it's the same as a person getting mad at a soap opera actor because his character killed someone. I am fully aware that kicking a flag is a 'real' offence, but as I said before, if it was filmed for TV somewhere I am sure they wouldn't prosecute the actor. Maybe they should have got dispensation or something. That doesn't change my mind that it's an utterly ridiculous thing to threaten to charge someone with.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Curiosity wrote:

I'm not confusing anything with anything. Crimes outside of the ring, running people down with cars, blatantly corrupt people in charge of a publicly traded company, assassination attempts, etc etc. All are 'crimes', and they stage them all the time.

Correct. Key word being 'stage'.

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That kicking a flag can actually be a crime is both hilarious and horribly repulsive, especially in one of the murder capitals of the world. That is one part of what I am saying.

Sure. But you said "people commit crimes all the time in WWE". What I'm saying is that no, they don't. Kicking a flag is a crime in Brazil. That wasn't staged - he actually did commit the crime. The fact that it's a moronic law doesn't change the fact that it's a law.

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if it was filmed for TV somewhere I am sure they wouldn't prosecute the actor. Maybe they should have got dispensation or something. That doesn't change my mind that it's an utterly ridiculous thing to threaten to charge someone with.

I'm struggling with that comparison, solely because I can't think of anything that's a crime in this country that you would actually do for real, rather than faking, while filming. I'll keep thinking.

Derek The Halls · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3742

I agree with Curiosity.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

I agree with Craster.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2012 19:50

Craster wrote:

Sure. But you said "people commit crimes all the time in WWE". What I'm saying is that no, they don't. Kicking a flag is a crime in Brazil. That wasn't staged - he actually did commit the crime. The fact that it's a moronic law doesn't change the fact that it's a law.

I don't dispute that at all. It's a stupid law. My ire is directed towards the law, and the people offended by such a thing (the reports I read said that the crowd were hostile, more than they would be for a heel act).

In terms of things you can do that are real crimes, in the context of TV... racism, incitement to riot, etc. Having a racist character air their views could be considered to be somewhere in that area.

Alternatively, you could go to anywhere something is censored and do that.

I know it was an actual crime. It's still fucking ridiculous.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

I entirely agree that the law is an ass. But you said Brazil thinks wrestling is real. And I'm not about to stand idly by while someone casts into doubt Brazil's ability to determine the legitimacy of its grapz!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2012 21:01

Again, purely from reading a report shortly after it happened, it said that people were up in arms about it. If they were, then they can't distinguish it. If they think the actual man hates Brazil and wants to kick the flag, and not just because he's a heel, then they are big sillies.

If, however, the reports were wrong, and nobody got at all upset and it was just a jobs worth police type forcing it while nobody in the arena cared, then fair play to 'em.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Wasn't someone fired in the last couple of years for dissing the troops in America?

People are patriotic; silly, sadly.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2012 21:08

throughsilver wrote:

Wasn't someone fired in the last couple of years for dissing the troops in America?

People are patriotic; silly, sadly.

Finlay left after okaying Miz to interrupt the National Anthem.

People are silly.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2012 22:55

DerekFME wrote:

I agree with Curiosity.

throughsilver wrote:

I agree with Craster.

Looks like we should have ourselves a tag match! I'll ref.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2012 15:22

Craster wrote:

I'm struggling with that comparison, solely because I can't think of anything that's a crime in this country that you would actually do for real, rather than faking, while filming. I'll keep thinking.

Smoking indoors, but there's a part written into the law to make it okay if you're "staging a performance".

Okay, here's a better one - promoting racial hatred, or whatever it's called. Someone playing a racist person spouting racist stuff on the TV is technically breaking the law, surely? Even if he/she doesn't believe the words coming out of their mouths?

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10078

I agree with My Kissyfur.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2012 15:40

BikNorton wrote:

I agree with My Kissyfur.

Who?

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sat Jun 02, 2012 14:15

Running through my old ECW tapes and was horribly reminded of Nicole Bass again. While wiki-ing her to see what she's up to now (or even if she's still alive, wrestlers, eh?) I came across this. Warning. Not safe for anything ever.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

I probably would have, back in 1995 or so.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:56

Just watched highlights of Smackdown.

Damien Sandow is my new favourite wrestler.

TheVision · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:36

The guys a genius!

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 23:11

For anyone still following Scott Steiner on Twitter, he's being really quite good at the moment. A few days of silence and he pops up today saying someone at TNA he respected asked him to stop, so he did. It's taken him about an hour to u-turn and start again. mazin.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 23:17

Also if anyone's looking to plug their ECW collection with any missing bits, I found a great repository here to Rapidshare links.

TheVision · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 23:36

Dimrill wrote:

Also if anyone's looking to plug their ECW collection with any missing bits, I found a great repository here to Rapidshare links.

I still have tons of ECW VHS's in my parents loft... I don't have anything to play them on mind :facepalm:

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 23:37

I ran through all my old stuff a couple of weeks back and was going to convert them to avi myself. Saved myself the bother with the above :smug:

TheVision · **Posted:** Sun Jun 10, 2012 23:40

I miss ECW so thanks for the link. I look forward to having to explain why I've got "Barely Legal '97" downloading.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:56

Dimrill wrote:

For anyone still following Scott Steiner on Twitter, he's being really quite good at the moment. A few days of silence and he pops up today saying someone at TNA he respected asked him to stop, so he did. It's taken him about an hour to u-turn and start again. mazin.

Nine hours later and he's still going. Fantastic.

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

It's time....

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Vader time!

Dimrill · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:35

Japanese wrestling madnesses.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:41

DDT Wrestling roster.

I especially like

Tomomitsu Matsunaga – 松永智充
Man With A Shit Heart
From: Koga, Ibaraki
Height/Weight: 168cm/90kg

and of course

Super Shit Machine

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:57

It is a pity Traitch will probably never get his comeuppance.

Quote:

During Dave Meltzer's radio show for The Wrestling Observer, he reported that Paul "Triple H" Levesque is not allowing Mick Foley to be used on TV since his return in November.

Meltzer reported that Triple H slams Foley whenever his name is brought up in creative meetings. Brian Gerwitz, WWE's Senior Vice President of Creative Writing thinks Foley is a creative and good performer, but Levesque says Foley 'doesn't look tough' and can't be taken seriously as an in-ring performer.

A former WWE creative writer said to Power Slam in 2008 that Levesque would always insult Foley when he appeared for the company and hurt his value in the eyes of Vince and Stephanie McMahon.

Levesque was quoted as saying: "Foley is an out-of-shape nobody. No one cares about him at all. Funaki puts more asses in the seats than Foley does. He should pay us for coming on our shows."

It is believed that the reason Triple H does this is because he is irritated over the opinion from his closest co-workers that his matches with Foley in 2000 "made him a star".

Morte · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 18:24

Pah, the best performers the WWE has ever had where Foley and Al Snow.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 18:29

Was watching some old Al Snow from Smoky Mountain Wrestling the other night. Such an undervalued wrestler.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 18:54

Morte wrote:

Pah, the best performers the WWE has ever had where Foley and Al Snow.

...and Damien Sandow.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Morte wrote:

Pah, the best performers the WWE has ever had where Foley and Al Snow.

You never saw Dick TOGO!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:21

throughsilver wrote:

Morte wrote:

Pah, the best performers the WWE has ever had where Foley and Al Snow.

You never saw Dick TOGO!

I'll have a burger, fries, milkshake and a dick to go.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Pundabaya wrote:

It's time....

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

Vader time!

WTF - just saw last week's RAW. He's 57!

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

Craster wrote:

Pundabaya wrote:

It's time....

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

Vader time!

WTF - just saw last week's RAW. He's 57!

ANd he can still wrestle better than The Miz.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Thu Jun 21, 2012 15:31

Want.

http://doomsdayattire.storenvy.com/

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 21, 2012 15:34

But it's not black!

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:24

This looks good. I'm going to have to track that down.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:39

And so it was!

myp · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:22

I barely cracked a smile, I'm afraid.

devilman · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:36

I thought it was pretty good. The bit of music at 2:56 sounded a little familiar, then I realised it sounded like the intro to Acony Bell which I'd listened to just a few minutes earlier.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:36

I loved it. An actual world of wrestling. I especially liked McKenzie Crook giving Kendo his inhaler.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:31

The Streak of Piss have signed up a slew of indie guys on developmental contracts and this guy currently known as PAC is fucking mazin.

#more" class="postlink">More rittins on it.

Them.

TheVision · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:10

I've seen him a number of times on the English circuit and you're right.. He's amazing..

Not so good when there's a low ceiling but apart from that, great.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:17

Man, he's awesome.

But wasn't British Airways the same move as the standing corkscrew moonsault (the first one)?

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

Wasn't one a standing corkscrew shooting star press? Anyway, Sara Del Ray would be the pick of that bunch... If Vince had a clue what to do with women who can actually wrestle. Brodie Lee is also very good. I've not seen much of PAC, he seems a bit needlessly flippy to me, though his tiger suplex is very nice. No way in hell WWE let's him use that often.

Derek The Halls · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3742

I think in womens wrestling Saraya and Britani Knight are excellent at getting heel heat. I know Britani is signed to WWE under development status.

I think it would be fab if she could make it to proper WWE and bring her obnoxious common arrogant brit act to it.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Jul 10, 2012 16:51

Okay, Richard Herring has just announced he's booked Mick Foley for a *hack spit* podcast. Should be good!

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