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Can you actually bet on the wrestling?

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I doubt it. Since the outcome isn't actually in doubt, there's too much chance of you being someone who actually knows what the outcome will be.

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I doubt it. Since the outcome isn't actually in doubt, there's too much chance of you being someone who actually knows what the outcome will be.

You could bet on things like "Who killed Dirty Den" in EastEnders, though.

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Oh. You probably can then, yes.

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I just logged into my Betfair account for the first time in years (after having to reset my password, natch) to find I have £314.71 in it 8)

Nothing about WWE, though.

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Christ, I had a bet in March 2010 that Alonso, Webber and Vettel would all be in the top three of the F1 driver's championship which I forgot all about that netted me £290 :D

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Christ, I had a bet in March 2010 that Alonso, Webber and Vettel would all be in the top three of the F1 driver's championship which I forgot all about that netted me £290 :D


That's a fucking "YAY!"

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Nice work, Grim...

I've not seen any betting available for WWE personally, and don't really ever see Soap ones either (not in this internet age). Closest I've seen is X Factor betting (producers would have an extremely good view of who is to go based on week-on-week votes).

I've known several sites run a league of sorts though, with one person acting as the 'Bookie' and setting odds for each match on WWE PPV cards. Each player starts with an arbitrary amount of money, and can then bet against the published odds from the 'Bookie'. They then roll their winnings (if any) over to the next month, and continue.

Most have prizes of some description.

I'd be happy to run such a thing if there was sufficient interest.

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DavPaz wrote:
Has there ever been a form of fiction quite like professional wrestling?

This is essentially a live play where the outcome of some pretty hyped storylines rely on the outcomes of what are essentially dance recitals.

Has anyone ever rebelled against a decision over a match (stayed in character but refused to be beaten, say), changing the course of a storyline?


In the old territories days, it was common for the travelling champion to be someone who could legitimately kick the crap out of challengers, in case one of the territory's boys tried to get clever.

Shoot fights during matches aren't unknown.

As to results changing, it does happen occasionally, though usually due to someone messing up.


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Also as a result of in-match injuries, which are relatively frequent.

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Regal is indeed awesome. I like the fact that his unlikely real name is Darren. And his voice is brilliantly posh.

And he's actually from Staffordshire, not Blackpool. Also, Bulldog was from Leeds, not Manchester (@decca).

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DavPaz wrote:
Has anyone ever rebelled against a decision over a match (stayed in character but refused to be beaten, say), changing the course of a storyline?

Akira Maeda vs Andre the Giant was pretty interesting.
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Also, Bulldog was from Leeds, not Manchester (@decca).

Citation please! I'm sure Billington said Smith was from Wigan.

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Yay! William Regal!

Also I once saw British Bulldog in Sheffield, near the Virgin Megastore. No one was paying him any attention, he was just wandering round quite casually like anyone else. So I left him alone as well.

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Citation please! I'm sure Billington said Smith was from Wigan.

Wiki says Wigan.

They also provide this:

England & Wales Births Register: October, November & December 1962, Vol. 10d, Page 57

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Yay! William Regal!


I saw Regal at Cardiff international arena fighting Rey Mysterio. Before the match, Regal was subjected to deafening "You Suck" chants. So he got a mike and said "I Can't Suck....I'm not Welsh". I laughed.

I also laughed when the Miz informed us that Cardiff City were rubbish and all their players should be drafted to the "Jack Army".


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Superb work Mr Regal. He plays the heel very well. I'm surprised that he's still on the roster though really. He just seems like something which they would have dumped ages ago.

Anyway thinking about my favourite wrestlers, here's my list (which you will all pick on me over):

Daffney
Ultimate Warrior
Undertaker
Dean Malenko
Chris Benoit (as a wrestler and not psycho killer obv)
Psycho Sid Vicious/Justice
David Flair
Crowbar
Kevin Nash
Scott Hall/Razor Ramon
Masked Kane
Roxxie Lavaeux
La Parka
Goldberg (one trick pony I know but still kind of like him)
Short Hair Jeff Jarret
Tank Abbot (only sort of, it was an amusing gimmick for a while)
Early Madusa before her breasts got too large
EDIT: forgot to add Steven/William Regal and his chum Dave Taylor (though I don't recall seeing him wrestle but he looked the part)
Most of the late period WCW roster. I actually enjoyed WCW most just before it died.

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Superb work Mr Regal. He plays the heel very well. I'm surprised that he's still on the roster though really. He just seems like something which they would have dumped ages ago.

He is good friends with Triple H, and he is effective at carrying green or mediocre workers to good matches.

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David Flair


Reeeeaaaaalllly? David Flair? Takes all sorts I suppose.

Favourite wrestlers:

TAKA Michinoku
Rick Rude
Mick Foley
The Rock
Chris Jericho (I actually bought his DVD set, highly recommended, some awesome matches on there)
Ricky Steamboat (oh, those wonderful deep arm drags he used to do)
Steven/William Regal
Eddie Guerrero
Dean Malenko
Arn Anderson
DDP
Kofi Kingston
Raven
Vader
Sting
Zack Ryder (Woo Woo Woo you know it!)
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Can someone please explain to me the point of Randy Orton? Seriously, he's talentless and dull to watch. My vocabulary is more varied than his wrestling repetoire & that's saying something! We're catching up with Raw from Monday night & Dolph Ziggler outclassed him at every turn, yet Orton performs two moves and wins. FFS.


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t Orton performs two moves and wins. FFS.


I always felt that way when watching The Rock and Bret Hart, especially when they were champions.

The Rock was excellent on the mic though.

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t Orton performs two moves and wins. FFS.


I always felt that way when watching The Rock and Bret Hart, especially when they were champions.

The Rock was excellent on the mic though.


See, he's awful on the mic as well. Argh!


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One thing I liked about WCW was there seemed less emphasis on stories and got on with having wrestling matches. It always seemed much leaner in comparison. Sure there was some story stuff but nowhere near as much as WWF/E.

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Okay, my favourite wrestlers:

Bret Hart
Jushin Liger
Mitsuharu Misawa
Manami Toyota
Jumbo Tsuruta
Volk Han
Chris Benoit
Toshiaki Kawada
William/Steve Regal
Mr. Perfect
Rick Rude
Stan Hansen
Kenta Kobashi
Akira Hokuto
Dynamite Kid
Shinjiro Otani
Nobuhiko Takada
Kiyoshi Tamura
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Nirejhenge wrote:
One thing I liked about WCW was there seemed less emphasis on stories and got on with having wrestling matches. It always seemed much leaner in comparison. Sure there was some story stuff but nowhere near as much as WWF/E.


The main problem with WCW was that it was run by idiots. You have stories of wrestlers drawing a wage from them for years after their release (Nailz) or just getting a friend to sign for them in the pay-per-performance book, so that the higher ups would pay even though the wrestler hadn't actually performed for the company for months (Honky Tonk Man). Bringing in Robocop, Chucky and David Arquette. The constant rehashings of the nWo for years after the angle should have been dead and buried.

The story of WCW in short: A solid wrestling company who caught the lightning once(original nWo), and died on its arse waiting for it to strike a second time.


Oh, my favourite story about WCW is how Brian Pillman tricked a release from the company, to immediately go to the WWF.


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I didn't encounter WCW until it was in its decline and I found it much better than WWF at that point. Basically it was when it appeared on Channel 5.

There's no excuse for allowing wrestlers to get paid for not doing anything though.

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The wrestling was always good. WCW should have stuck to what it was good at. Trying to beat Vince at his own game was what killed it, really.

When you look at the Monday Night Wars, the stunning thing is how much talent they wasted. Austin, Jericho, Eddie and Benoit were perrenial midcarders in WCW, but WWF made them into megastars. In return, the guys they got coming the other way were all over-the-hill, fading stars.


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The wrestling was always good. WCW should have stuck to what it was good at. Trying to beat Vince at his own game was what killed it, really.

That was both what made it and killed it. Nash and Hogan in the NWO led to WCW beating WWF in the ratings. Giving those two too much power (e.g. beating Goldberg, the fingerpoke of doom) are what led to its demise. Plus Vince Russo as WCW head writer not being an amazing success without VKM to edit him.

But what really killed it was when Time Warner bought TNT and decided they didn't want wrestling on their network. If it wasn't for that, WCW could have kept plodding along, as evinced by the continued existence of TNA.

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When you look at the Monday Night Wars, the stunning thing is how much talent they wasted. Austin, Jericho, Eddie and Benoit were perrenial midcarders in WCW, but WWF made them into megastars. In return, the guys they got coming the other way were all over-the-hill, fading stars.

Over the hill, fading stars who were largely big business. Let's not pretend they were TNA level. ;) Nash, Hogan, Hall, to a lesser extent Hart, all made coin for WCW.

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The new Shimmer show just came out, yay :)

I've been giving this promotion a second shot after Nirejhenge's recent comments here, I'm just loving it this time around. So much talent and enthusiasm, and there's no-one on the roster who isn't at least watchable. I think I'm a bit smitten with Daizee Haze and MsChif :luv: .

And as I've been starting from Vol. 1 there's still awesome performers like Hamada to look forward to, and Kong's just shown up. Aces.


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The new Shimmer show just came out, yay :)

I've been giving this promotion a second shot after Nirejhenge's recent comments here, I'm just loving it this time around. So much talent and enthusiasm, and there's no-one on the roster who isn't at least watchable. I think I'm a bit smitten with Daizee Haze and MsChif :luv: .

And as I've been starting from Vol. 1 there's still awesome performers like Hamada to look forward to, and Kong's just shown up. Aces.


In Vol.26 That I just watched Daizee Vs Vicky Off of Fuzzbox (Raina Von Tash) was quite good. It was nice to have a handshake afterwards. I think it's a shame that we don't see that more in the big promotions. It's rare we get the face vs face honourable match up. It's one thing I love about the Warrior vs Hogan match at WM6 (my all time favourite match). Let's encourage the idea of sporting competition more, eh?

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Absolutely. It's also refreshing to see simple, fun angles and a minimum of out-of-ring fuss, although that might have a lot to do with my following latter-day TNA.

Speaking of which, morbid curiosity got the better of me and I decided to see how things are going over in bizarro Bischoff land at the moment. I thought it was grim a few months ago, but christ on a bike. Barely any Knockouts left, meandering bollocks stories that go nowhere when they're not making no sense at all (yea, still), almost nothing left worth watching. Still, they had it coming considering how they supposedly treat their talent. If even a fraction of the stuff in that link is true, that's fucking disgraceful for the second-biggest promotion going.


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That's pretty shocking. Interesting to hear of the Knockouts being a ratings draw. I thought most people hated them.

I'd like to think that this could lead to Shimmer getting bigger but there seems an inherent sexism toward such things. The shimmer athletes have proved themselves just as capable and entertaining as the male lot. Though the womens matches on TNA are rarely as well put together. I'd just love to see Shimmer on a bigger budget.

TNA's X division still remains pretty entertaining, just so long as it's cruiserweight type stuff.

I don't understand why they are still putting out old washed up guys as main eventers. Hogan, Nash, Ric Flair, Scott Hall - all great in their day but it's time to retire.

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Nirejhenge wrote:

I don't understand why they are still putting out old washed up guys as main eventers. Hogan, Nash, Ric Flair, Scott Hall - all great in their day but it's time to retire.


Perhaps the demographic has shifted, and, if the industry is on the wane, it's what gets the crowds in, more than newer people?

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Maybe. I think I've found wrestling doesn't seem to have the draw that it used to. I used to sell loads of it at my stall but few people bother now. There's the occasional mad collector.

It's just every report I read about a PPV seems very damning of the use of these tired has beens.

Anyway I want more womens wrestling. And not in the playboy bunnies stripping each other style either.

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I don't find the use of the old wrestlers to be a problem, but I find the ridiculous repetitiveness of the match booking to be terrible. Answering for WWE, because I don't watch TNA, but we're just seeing the same matches with the same wrestlers over and over again, week after week.

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I don't find the use of the old wrestlers to be a problem, but I find the ridiculous repetitiveness of the match booking to be terrible. Answering for WWE, because I don't watch TNA, but we're just seeing the same matches with the same wrestlers over and over again, week after week.


And year after year. I gave up on WWE for over a year and when I finally caught a PPV card, it had exactly the same main event as when I stopped watching it.

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Maybe. I think I've found wrestling doesn't seem to have the draw that it used to. I used to sell loads of it at my stall but few people bother now.


Would you like some tips on how to sell wrestling DVDs? ;)


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I did pretty well out of your DVDs Mr Vision. Thank you for those. I doubt I'd do so well now. Hard times.

So where's the wrestling at these days (other than Shimmer)?

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Chikara is very, very good indeed. Shame its very difficult to actually follow, as you have to buy DVDs to keep up.

The big problem with WWE is that there simply isn't enough men on the roster to support two brands.


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The big problem with WWE is that there simply isn't enough men on the roster to support two brands.


Absolutely. The brand split was a moronic idea, and they really need to reverse it.

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Chikara is very, very good indeed.

I didn't really like Shewolf.

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I don't like WWE. Haven't done for a long time. It just doesn't do it for me somehow. TNA isn't much better but I still find it better.

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The big problem with WWE is that there simply isn't enough men on the roster to support two brands.


Absolutely. The brand split was a moronic idea, and they really need to reverse it.


Disagree strongly with both of the above.

Will explain later.

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I don't understand why they are still putting out old washed up guys as main eventers. Hogan, Nash, Ric Flair, Scott Hall - all great in their day but it's time to retire.

Perhaps the demographic has shifted, and, if the industry is on the wane, it's what gets the crowds in, more than newer people?

The demographic has actually skewed younger. The older fans are watching MMA now, while the biggest names are kid-friendly superheroes like John Cena and Rey Misterio Jr. TNA hires has-beens for two reasons: said has-beens are friends of the people doing the hiring, and the company thinks that's easier than creating new, lasting, actual draws.

See: their recent hiring of the ECW cast-offs while casting off pretty much the whole women's division, which was a major draw for TNA at low cost.

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Over the hill, fading stars who were largely big business. Let's not pretend they were TNA level. ;) Nash, Hogan, Hall, to a lesser extent Hart, all made coin for WCW.


If thats true, why did WCW only post a profit for one single year in their entire history?

WCW was Billionaire Ted Turner's folly. It lost money left and right, but Ted always had the money to shore it up. The actual reason it folded was because when AOL merged with Time-Warner, Ted lost control of his company, and once the new regime took a look at the books and shouted 'HOW MUCH?!' that was it. If Ted had remained in control, WCW would have never died, not unless they managed to bankrupt Turner.


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