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Anybody seen Dark Star?

DBSnappa wrote:

Anybody seen Dark Star?

Yes, it's me fave sci-fi comedy of all time.

Yes. It was his first script which he wrote while he was in college. It was, I think, directed by another student called John Carpenter. Wonder what happened to him, eh?

http://www.thehut.com/blu-ray/alien-anthology-limited-edition-collector-s-set-exclusive-illuminated-egg-statue/10227030.html

Blimey. Very pretty.

Yup sorry Gaz, I paid well under a tenner for a second hand ('pre used') one at Block Buster, that was box fresh as far as I could tell - and even that was some months back.

By the way, is this prequel actually gonna happen guys, and if so when? I reckon it could be absolutely awesome, if done right.

I remember the last time they advertised limited editions. The fucking Quadrilogy, that I paid £95 for, and is now available for sub-£10 in many DVD sales. Gnnngh.

Aah, yeah. You're like my brother and Batman stuff, I take it? Buy two copies - one to leave sealed and one to use?

The first box set wasn't called Quadrilogy. It was possibly called Legacy or something. Dunno, but I've got it and it was limited.

Hi

Recently I watched a film called Moon, which I thought was fantastic. The way the sets were designed etc was very reminiscent of Alien. Then I read a bit and found out a dude who worked on Alien also worked on that. Anyway, Im a long time fan of the series, and own the Quadrilogy on DVD (will get the BluRay sometime when its cheap), and this gave me a taste to revisit what I feel are two of the best films evarr, Alien, and Aliens.

"Hi. Would you like to come back to mine and see my Alien head? Yes, yes, it's shaped like an ENORMOUS COCK but that'll just get you used to things to come."

I've read the book and the comics, and I prefer the books (the rename Hicks and Newt to Wilks and Billie because A³ killed them off). Earth Hive in particular.

I got the Dark Horse Aliens Omnibus book. The first one or two stories were brilliant, but in the second half of the book the art was fucking terrible. I mean deformed SLOTH LOVE CHUNK characters. Woeful.

That thread is superb.

Was't Grim...'s point that no-one gets killed by an 'inner-jaw to the head' in Aliens?

Ferro gets killed quite messily before the ship crashes; there's loads of blood and she makes a mortal gurgling noise. Also, just prior, her co-pilot doesn't respond when she speaks to him, which suggests he was stealthily murdered by the same alien.

The rest of the marines that died either committed suicide (Vasquez and Gorman) or put up a fight that forced the Aliens to kill them.

From distant memory of the book, Ripley gives him the grenade while he is cocooned and impregnated. I always thought it was a mercy killing by her and not suicide because he couldn't move.

The Burke cocoon scene has never been in a cut of the film, the first time it was released publicly was on the Anthology Blu-ray

I'm kind of excited about the prequel. Maybe. Perhaps more intrigued.

I dunno, for me part of the magic with Alien is the mystery surrounding the alien ship with all the eggs on board. Where did it come from? What was it doing? What happened to make it crash there? etc, etc.

Author:	Zardoz [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 16:29 ]
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DBSnappa wrote: Anybody seen Dark Star? Are you going to drop your keks?

Author:	Blucey [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 16:46 ]
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Kissyfur and Blucey united by fact. T3 was indeed pretty good. I'm sure I've said this before but there were some great bits in A:R. Ron Perlman shooting the spider, the underwater bit and that weird wheelchaired getting stabbed in the legs. I liked it. A lot. I also liked the headburster bit even if it was a bit gratuitous. The General looking at his brain was a bit awful though. Here's the thing with AvP. I've read the comics and the first book (Prey?), played the games and seen both the movies and I reckon they just don't belong in the same world. Crowbarring them together seemed like a good idea but it's never been satisfactory. That said, the Predator honour system is all over the place these days so I'd say they are shit in any story after Predator 2. It's all a by-product of Dark Horse's obsession with crossovers. Most of which were awful. Dredd v Aliens was the tits though.

Author:	Warhead [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 17:04 ]
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DBSnappa wrote: Anybody seen Dark Star? Yes, it's me fave sci-fi comedy of all time.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 17:38 ]
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Warhead wrote: DBSnappa wrote: Anybody seen Dark Star? Yes, it's me fave sci-fi comedy of all time. Good. Do you know why I mentioned it in this thread?

Author:	MrChris [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 17:40 ]
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Did Dan O Bannon write it?

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Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 17:43 ]
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Yes. It was his first script which he wrote while he was in college. It was, I think, directed by another student called John Carpenter. Wonder what happened to him, eh?

Author:	Warhead [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 17:47 ]
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And he (Dan o'Bannon) played Sgt. Pinback, our hero. Although actually, he wasn't.

Author:	markg [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 17:52 ]
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DBSnappa wrote: Yes. It was his first script which he wrote while he was in college. It was, I think, directed by another student called John Carpenter. Wonder what happened to him, eh? What has happened to him? It's about time he made good films again.

Author:	Zardoz [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 17:54 ]
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He's never been right since Karen died.

Author:	DavPaz [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:55 ]
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http://www.thehut.com/blu-ray/alien-ant ... 27030.html Blimey. Very pretty.

Author:	Blucey [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:28 ]
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DavPaz wrote: http://www.thehut.com/blu-ray/alien-anthology-limited-edition-collector-s-set-exclusive-illuminated-egg-statue/10227030.html Blimey. Very pretty. I've bought far too many copies of each film already. That is gorgeous though.

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:22 ]
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I remember the last time they advertised limited editions. The fucking Quadrilogy, that I paid £95 for, and is now available for sub-£10 in many DVD sales. Gnnngh.

Author:	Cavey [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 13:09 ]
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Yup sorry Gaz, I paid well under a tenner for a second hand ('pre used') one at Block Buster, that was box fresh as far as I could tell - and even that was some months back. By the way, is this prequel actually gonna happen guys, and if so when? I reckon it could be absolutely awesome, if done right.

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 13:11 ]
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Captain Caveman wrote: Yup sorry Gaz, I paid well under a tenner for a second hand ('pre used') one at Block Buster, that was box fresh as far as I could tell - and even that was some months back. By the way, is this prequel actually gonna happen guys, and if so when? I reckon it could be absolutely awesome, if done right. Scott being involved is the best indicator of awesome, I think. I paid £20 for my box set three years ago, using a WHSmith voucher. Early adopters, eh?

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 13:17 ]
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Well, to be fair to 20th Century Fox* the "early adopters" got a version of the Quadrilogy that had a limited edition number on the box. All the cheapo ones don't have those, but it's still a bitter pill to swallow * ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! the bloody cunts

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:00 ]
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Yeah, I have the Legacy DVD boxed set, the Quadrilogy, the Anthology (Blu-ray), all the VHS tapes, novelisations and graphic novels. Plus the replica pulse rifle, limited edition replica motion tracker, Alien head (from Aliens) from Forbidden Planet, and fuck knows how much other stuff. Quite sad really, isn't it?

Author:	grumpysmurf [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 14:24 ]
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I've come here to challenge Grim...'s assertion that nobody gets wilfully killed by aliens in Aliens (as argued here.) What about the chick who crashes the plane and strands everybody? Also, I vaguely recall one guy getting impaled by a tail during the initial assault. (I think it was the "she don't like the corn bread" black guy.) And it's clearly implied that Paul Reiser gets tongue-murdered. So ner.

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 13:32 ]
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Er, no, my el cheapo one has the number too.

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 13:36 ]
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GODDAMNIT.

Author:	DavPaz [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 13:37 ]
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"This is number 32,216 of 50,000"

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 13:38 ]
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Oh, I meant the barcode number.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 14:00 ]
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GazChap wrote: I remember the last time they advertised limited editions. The fucking Quadrilogy, that I paid £95 for, and is now available for sub-£10 in many DVD sales. Gnnngh. At least you didn't buy two

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 14:22 ]
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Aah, yeah. You're like my brother and Batman stuff, I take it? Buy two copies - one to leave sealed and one to use?

Author:	BikNorton [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 14:32 ]
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I got a low digit box for a Christmas present. It had two copies of Aliens in it. The replacement was 55k. Cunt.

Author:	Blucey [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 14:33 ]
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The first box set wasn't called Quadrilogy. It was possibly called Legacy or something. Dunno, but I've got it and it was limited. Different extras to the later Quadrilogy so worth having. Did any of youse bother with the Dark Horse comics? Some of them were really excellent and straight from Book One they followed on from Aliens, completely ignoring Alien 3 (although a reasonably good adaptation was made of that as well). Book One is good, if a little bleak. Hicks and Newt are in it. It got rereleased in colour as 'Outbreak' (I think). Book Two is lovely. Airbrushed art. Decent story. Exciting ending. Book Three (Earth Hive?) was also a good one. Mainly focused on Ripley I think (it's been a while since I read it). The best thing was a special edition that they did. It had a few different stories in it including an interesting 'origin of the species' thing. It also had a follow-up to Earth Hive that explained what the Space Jockey things were and how the whole thing started. Apart from that you've got Newt's Tale (the story of Aliens as seen from Newt's perspective). Was very exciting at the time (pre-Special Edition). There was another one - I can't think... Sacrifice maybe? It was a very dark story about a village who were cloning babies to sacrifice to an alien that ran about in the woods outside. A bit M Night Shamalamadingdong but it was good. Dredd v Aliens is fucking class also. I don't own a Blu-Ray player but I believe the Blu-Ray set is the first to show the Burke coccoon scene. I'll download a rip though.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 14:55 ]
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GazChap wrote: Aah, yeah. You're like my brother and Batman stuff, I take it? Buy two copies - one to leave sealed and one to use? Yup. Blucey wrote: The first box set wasn't called Quadrilogy. It was possibly called Legacy or something. Dunno, but I've got it and it was limited. So limited, it's yours for seven quid Unless you've got the five-disc box, which only came out in the US. I'm still trying to track one down. I've read the book and the comics, and I prefer the books (the rename Hicks and Newt to Wilks and Billie because A³ killed them off). Earth Hive in particular.

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:01 ]
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It's an icebreaker on your next date.

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:02 ]
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"Hi. Would you like to come back to mine and see my Alien head? Yes, yes, it's shaped like an ENORMOUS COCK but that'll just get you used to things to come." I always show this image to people who refuse to believe that the Alien was designed to be as phallic as possible. I mean, look at it!

Author:	kalmar [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:03 ]
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Dealbreaker more like! Oh no wait, I forgot about the assault weapon collection and the tarantulas!

Author:	Alarm [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:04 ]
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LaceSensor wrote: Hi Recently I watched a film called Moon, which I thought was fantastic. The way the sets were designed etc was very reminiscent of Alien. Then I read a bit and found out a dude who worked on Alien also worked on that. Anyway, Im a long time fan of the series, and own the Quadrilogy on DVD (will get the BluRay sometime when its cheap), and this gave me a taste to revisit what I feel are two of the best films evarr, Alien, and Aliens. The BluRay is £30 in the HMV sale; probably cheaper online. I would buy it if I had an HDTV and a BluRay player.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:05 ]
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GazChap wrote: "Hi. Would you like to come back to mine and see my Alien head? Yes, yes, it's shaped like an ENORMOUS COCK but that'll just get you used to things to come." He "Alright, darling? I've got a signed script from the Alien film. Yes, Horton too, thanks, I know... Of course you can't see it! You want me to take it out of its box‽ GET OUT!"

Author:	Alarm [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:09 ]
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Captain Caveman wrote: Yup sorry Gaz, I paid well under a tenner for a second hand ('pre used') one at Block Buster, that was box fresh as far as I could tell - and even that was some months back. By the way, is this prequel actually gonna happen guys, and if so when? I reckon it could be absolutely awesome, if done right. Not one, but two prequels. In 3-D

Author:	Blucey [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:11 ]
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Grim... wrote: I've read the book and the comics, and I prefer the books (the rename Hicks and Newt to Wilks and Billie because A³ killed them off). Earth Hive in particular. The books are great. I've read them all several times. Did ADF do Resurrection? I'm thinking he didn't but can't remember off the top of my head. He did the book of The Thing which was also tremendous. The thing about the Dark Horse comics is that they were no kind of investment. I've got first prints of all the early sets and they do nothing on eBay. Not that I'd sell them. I did pick up all the Omnibus books that came out a while back so I think I've got pretty much everything now. The 'Heavy Metal' Alien graphic novel is worth checking out.

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:20 ]
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I got the Dark Horse Aliens Omnibus book. The first one or two stories were brilliant, but in the second half of the book the art was fucking terrible. I mean deformed SLOTH LOVE CHUNK characters. Woeful.

Author:	Blucey [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:24 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote: I got the Dark Horse Aliens Omnibus book. The first one or two stories were brilliant, but in the second half of the book the art was fucking terrible. I mean deformed SLOTH LOVE CHUNK characters. Woeful. The worst change was in the first The Thing graphic novels. Started with beautiful airbrushed art and ends up as shit on a page.

Author:	Cras [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 14:36 ]
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That thread is superb. Was't Grim...'s point that no-one gets killed by an 'inner-jaw to the head' in Aliens?

Author:	grumpysmurf [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 14:42 ]
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Craster wrote: That thread is superb. Was't Grim...'s point that no-one gets killed by an 'inner-jaw to the head' in Aliens? No, I believe he claimed that all the aliens in Aliens are 'drones', who having stingy, non-lethal tails (as opposed to the less friendly 'soldiers' in Alien and Alien 3). In Aliens, they're just trying to kidnap the humans for impregnation. Claims Grim...