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Fans would do well to check this out, if they haven't done so already.

Christ, that's one Hell of a film. Such a shame Fincher wasn't given more time to get that cut to the cinema - if nothing else, it would have changed Alien Vs Predator a fair bit.

The acting is pretty much top drawer as well - chap from The Vicar Of Dibley phoned it in, as did (sadly) Glover, but Weaver and the two Charles' (Dutton and Dance) knocked it out of the park.

Good move there, I think.

This is good news I think. However, it sounds a bit odd that they'd just morph a movie from one thing to another. I'm sure it's happened before but I can't see how you start writing an Alien movie and end up with something else.

However, it sounds a bit odd that they'd just morph a movie from one thing to another.

I love that story about Dirty Dancing 2. Did you hear that on This American Life, MaliA? I think that's where I heard it first.

Blucey wrote:

There was the writer who write a screenplay about a man who, with others, was resisting Castro in Cuba. He meets and falls in love with the daughter of an Anerican diplomat who gets involved in the seditious activities. The film was made. It was called "Dirty Dancing 2: Havana Nights".

So it is fairly common for things to change.

Nirejhenge wrote:

AVP:R,

you say that like its's a bad thing.

Mr Kissyfur wrote:

Nirejhenge wrote:

AVP:R,

you say that like its's a bad thing.

I've watched the Alien films countless times, overlooking the faults of all four films because I love them blindly. I was appalled by AvP but somehow managed to watch it a couple of times since for the good bit(s). I saw AvP:R in the cinema and wouldn't watch it again if you promised me the entire 3hr original cut of Alien as a reward. It is absolutely a film without merit. It fails in every aspect as a film let alone an Alien one.

I liked AVP2 more than AVP1. Probably because it gang-raped the canon (cannon?) a little less.

With this I believe Scotts days are numbered.

LaceSensor wrote:

With this I believe Scotts days are numbered.

True dat. His last big sci-fi action flick was a box office disappointment, so I'm sure you're right.

LaceSensor wrote:

With this I believe Scotts days are numbered.

True dat. His last big sci-fi action flick was a box office disappointment, so I'm sure you're right.

A Good Year and Robin Hood were the most poorly-received of recent times, but only critically - they still average a 6.9 on IMDB - and he knocked it out of the park with American Gangster.

Mere hours after the announcement that Michael Fassbender is locked in to play an android with rumoured links to Aliens' Bishop series, our insider sources have revealed that he's not the only one with strong links to the series' past.

"They’ve built the ‘space jockey’ cockpit at Pinewood as seen in the original Alien film, so it definitely takes place in the same world as Alien", they told us.

"Despite that press release that seemed to indicate there were no aliens in the movie, the familiar HR Giger-style aliens do appear. Big ones apparently."

And as for Scott's comments noting that "keen fans will recognise strands of Alien's DNA"?

It turns out there was the slightest hint of misdirection - apparently the actual DNA of the xenomorphs is integral to the plot - and will see the cast jet off to the alien homeworld itself.

"Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world. I’ve also heard Morocco is being used for alien planet landscapes so I’m not sure if it’s an archaeological dig on another planet," they revealed.

It gets weirder too, with Damon Lindelof's script set to crank up the sci-fi angle to maximum effect.

"The main spaceship in the film will be piloted by an enormous head which I assume will be CGI. Yep, sounds weird but I assume some of the technology will be sort of biomechanical."

http://movies.sky.com/exclusive-prometheus-plot-reveal-aliens-are-in-it

Quote:

Mere hours after the announcement that Michael Fassbender is locked in to play an android with rumoured links to Aliens' Bishop series, our insider sources have revealed that he's not the only one with strong links to the series' past.

"They’ve built the ‘space jockey’ chicken* at Pinewood as seen in the original Alien film, so it definitely takes place in the same world as Alien", they told us.

"Despite that press release that seemed to indicate there were no aliens in the movie, the familiar HR Giger-style aliens do appear. Big ones apparently."

And as for Scott's comments noting that "keen fans will recognise strands of Alien's DNA"?

It turns out there was the slightest hint of misdirection - apparently the actual DNA of the xenomorphs is integral to the plot - and will see the cast jet off to the alien homeworld itself.

"Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world. I’ve also heard Morocco is being used for alien planet landscapes so I’m not sure if it’s an archaeological dig on another planet," they revealed.

It gets weirder too, with Damon Lindelof's script set to crank up the sci-fi angle to maximum effect.

"The main spaceship in the film will be piloted by an enormous head which I assume will be CGI. Yep, sounds weird but I assume some of the technology will be sort of biomechanical."

Didn't we do this before?

"A man is stuck in a canyon with his arm pinned under a rock for 127 hours."

Not the most exciting of synopses.

All the best films sound terrible if you explain the plot to someone else.

"A man is stuck in a canyon with his arm pinned under a rock for 127 hours."

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:45 ]
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Or perhaps I could just tie my chestburster plushie to my nether regions, for the added bulge-factor.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 15:03 ]
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Fans would do well to check this out, if they haven't done so already.

Author:	Alarm [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 17:13 ]
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Grim... wrote: Fans would do well to check this out, if they haven't done so already. Wow.

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 17:25 ]
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Did GazChap get his cock tattooed in the end then?

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 18:51 ]
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Yes.

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Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 22:56 ]
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Watching A3 again, which is nice. The music after the fire is beautiful.

Author:	Grim... [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 0:01 ]
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Christ, that's one Hell of a film. Such a shame Fincher wasn't given more time to get that cut to the cinema - if nothing else, it would have changed Alien Vs Predator a fair bit. The acting is pretty much top drawer as well - chap from The Vicar Of Dibley phoned it in, as did (sadly) Glover, but Weaver and the two Charles' (Dutton and Dance) knocked it out of the park. And I still think this is one of the most iconic images of cinema, ever:

Author:	Blucey [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 0:45 ]
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Grim... wrote: Christ, that's one Hell of a film. Such a shame Fincher wasn't given more time to get that cut to the cinema - if nothing else, it would have changed Alien Vs Predator a fair bit. The acting is pretty much top drawer as well - chap from The Vicar Of Dibley phoned it in, as did (sadly) Glover, but Weaver and the two Charles' (Dutton and Dance) knocked it out of the park. Yep they do a great job. I rather liked the guy who played Aaron/Eighty-Five as well.

Author:	kalmar [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 0:47 ]
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I like that film more every time I see it.

Author:	LewieP [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:45 ]
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I'm not even going to call the new prequel an Alien film. Oh wait. It isn't anymore. Ridley Scott’s ‘Alien’ Prequel Morphs Into ‘Prometheus,’ Starring Noomi Rapace

Author:	Alarm [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:54 ]
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Good move there, I think.

Author:	sinister agent [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:31 ]
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Alarm wrote: Good move there, I think. Definitely. I might actually want to see this now. A prequel was the worst hollywood idea since the last time someone gave Michael Bay money.

Author:	Blucey [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:53 ]
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This is good news I think. However, it sounds a bit odd that they'd just morph a movie from one thing to another. I'm sure it's happened before but I can't see how you start writing an Alien movie and end up with something else.

Author:	MaliA [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:49 ]
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Blucey wrote: This is good news I think. However, it sounds a bit odd that they'd just morph a movie from one thing to another. I'm sure it's happened before but I can't see how you start writing an Alien movie and end up with something else. There was the writer who write a screenplay about a man who, with others, was resisting Castro in Cuba. He meets and falls in love with the daughter of an Anerican diplomat who gets involved in the seditious activities. The film was made. It was called "Dirty Dancing 2: Havana Nights". So it is fairly common for things to change.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 13:13 ]
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I don't listen to Nedtist. It's definitely been on TAL - they interviewed the scriptwriter. I can't recall the episode theme though.

Author:	Derek The Halls [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 23:19 ]
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Today the Brothers Strause (AVP:R, Skyline) are proud to accept duties for the forthcoming movie 'Alien 5'. (My friend Duncan dies)

Author:	LaceSensor [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 13:46 ]
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fuck me i am so disappointed Prometheus can get to fuck Also, the second female role is currently considering casting Charlize Theron, or ...ffs...Angelina Jolie. If Angelina Jolie scores a part in the film I will boycott it. With this I believe Scotts days are numbered.

Author:	Four_Candles [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 16:17 ]
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Scott's problem over the past few years seems to be that he tries to stick his fingers into far too many pies. When he started with The Duellists, Alien and Blade Runner he was concentrating on one film at a time and, as a result, he made some masterpieces. As he's become more mainstream he's tried to develop multiple films simultaneously and produced many others - he always has a number of things on the go at once and, as a result, he doesn't put all of his efforts into just one film, leading to a lot of lacklustre films. His chances of repeating the excellence of Alien are almost zero.

Author:	GazChap [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:03 ]
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Blucey wrote: However, it sounds a bit odd that they'd just morph a movie from one thing to another. Die Hard With a Vengeance was originally conceived as a sequel to Lethal Weapon, and Die Hard itself was originally supposed to be a sequel to Commando - it was only when Arnie passed on it that they re-tooled it into Die Hard!

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:07 ]
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I love that story about Dirty Dancing 2. Did you hear that on This American Life, MaliA? I think that's where I heard it first.

Author:	MaliA [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:26 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: I love that story about Dirty Dancing 2. Did you hear that on This American Life, MaliA? I think that's where I heard it first. It was either on that or The Nerdist. It was very well told on the podcast, mind. IEDIT: If you could remember, let me know as I might listen to that program again. Also, if you don't listen to the Netdist then it must be TAL as it crosses on our venn.

Author:	Grim... [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 21:05 ]
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Now there's no prequal, all I can think is... Alien 5!

Author:	myp [ Sat Jan 15, 2011 22:46 ]
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Aliens is on repeat in the Pit and Pendulum in Nottingham tonight. Watched the last 20 mins followed by the first 10

Author:	MrChris [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 0:21 ]
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Nirejhenge wrote: AVP:R, you say that like its's a bad thing.

Author:	sinister agent [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:05 ]
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MaliA wrote: Blucey wrote: This is good news I think. However, it sounds a bit odd that they'd just morph a movie from one thing to another. I'm sure it's happened before but I can't see how you start writing an Alien movie and end up with something else. There was the writer who write a screenplay about a man who, with others, was resisting Castro in Cuba. He meets and falls in love with the daughter of an Anerican diplomat who gets involved in the seditious activities. The film was made. It was called "Dirty Dancing 2: Havana Nights". So it is fairly common for things to change. It's easy to do. You start off with a vague idea or character or scene or concept or whatever, and gradually realise that as you've taken bits out and added new bits, what's left is actually so different to what you intended to do when you started that you might as well call it something else entirely. I'd imagine most large-scale creative things happen like that, to be honest.

Author:	Blucey [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:21 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote: Nirejhenge wrote: AVP:R, you say that like its's a bad thing. I've watched the Alien films countless times, overlooking the faults of all four films because I love them blindly. I was appalled by AvP but somehow managed to watch it a couple of times since for the good bit(s). I saw AvP:R in the cinema and wouldn't watch it again if you promised me the entire 3hr original cut of Alien as a reward. It is absolutely a film without merit. It fails in every aspect as a film let alone an Alien one.

Author:	MrChris [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:22 ]
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Blucey wrote: Mr Kissyfur wrote: Nirejhenge wrote: AVP:R, you say that like its's a bad thing. I've watched the Alien films countless times, overlooking the faults of all four films because I love them blindly. I was appalled by AvP but somehow managed to watch it a couple of times since for the good bit(s). I saw AvP:R in the cinema and wouldn't watch it again if you promised me the entire 3hr original cut of Alien as a reward. It is absolutely a film without merit. It fails in every aspect as a film let alone an Alien one. The bit with the kid being chestbursted makes it worth watching JUST FOR THAT. It's a horrible, horrible film, being needlessly unpleasant. And that's excellent.

Author:	Grim... [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:23 ]
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I liked AVP2 more than AVP1. Probably because it gang-raped the canon (cannon?) a little less.

Author:	Derek The Halls [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:20 ]
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I was considerably less bothered by AVP:R than my friend (and co host of my podcast) Duncan. He was completely livid about it afterwards. He was pretty much the same after Skyline. So to him it would be the worst thing ever.

Author:	GazChap [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:37 ]
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Grim... wrote: I liked AVP2 more than AVP1. Probably because it gang-raped the canon (cannon?) a little less. Also, the callback to Alien was good. You know, the callback where the teenage girl in AVP:R wanders around in just her smalls, like Ripley did at the end of Alien.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 14:07 ]
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LaceSensor wrote: With this I believe Scotts days are numbered. True dat. His last big sci-fi action flick was a box office disappointment, so I'm sure you're right.

Author:	Grim... [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 17:52 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: LaceSensor wrote: With this I believe Scotts days are numbered. True dat. His last big sci-fi action flick was a box office disappointment, so I'm sure you're right. Was that Blade Runner? God, he did GI Jane. Really?

Author:	DavPaz [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 15:00 ]
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Author:	LaceSensor [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 15:08 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: LaceSensor wrote: With this I believe Scotts days are numbered. True dat. His last big sci-fi action flick was a box office disappointment, so I'm sure you're right. Many of his recent films have been poorly received. The fact he made Alien and Bladerunner 20+ years ago count for little nowadays. From what I can see on IMDB he is only producing this new "prometheus" now, not directing...sigh.

Author:	Grim... [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 15:19 ]
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A Good Year and Robin Hood were the most poorly-received of recent times, but only critically - they still average a 6.9 on IMDB - and he knocked it out of the park with American Gangster.

Author:	LaceSensor [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 15:27 ]
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Grim... wrote: A Good Year and Robin Hood were the most poorly-received of recent times, but only critically - they still average a 6.9 on IMDB - and he knocked it out of the park with American Gangster. I like Ridley Scott but I think some of his films have been poor, especially the theatrical cuts. I cant see Fox really allowing this film to be done justice, and that was when it was proposed as an actual Alien film. Now we are talking some original story with some patchy references to Alien, then I feel even less enthused by it all.

Author:	Alarm [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 15:55 ]
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I'd like to see Son of Alienz, where some children try and re-enact Aliens and throw acid around from the school lab.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:35 ]
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http://movies.sky.com/exclusive-prometh ... -are-in-it Quote: Mere hours after the announcement that Michael Fassbender is locked in to play an android with rumoured links to Aliens' Bishop series, our insider sources have revealed that he's not the only one with strong links to the series' past. "They’ve built the ‘space jockey’ cockpit at Pinewood as seen in the original Alien film, so it definitely takes place in the same world as Alien", they told us. "Despite that press release that seemed to indicate there were no aliens in the movie, the familiar HR Giger-style aliens do appear. Big ones apparently." And as for Scott's comments noting that "keen fans will recognise strands of Alien's DNA"? It turns out there was the slightest hint of misdirection - apparently the actual DNA of the xenomorphs is integral to the plot - and will see the cast jet off to the alien homeworld itself. "Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world. I’ve also heard Morocco is being used for alien planet landscapes so I’m not sure if it’s an archaeological dig on another planet," they revealed. It gets weirder too, with Damon Lindelof's script set to crank up the sci-fi angle to maximum effect. "The main spaceship in the film will be piloted by an enormous head which I assume will be CGI. Yep, sounds weird but I assume some of the technology will be sort of biomechanical."