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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 23:40 
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Are trains that size told to drive through situations like that? I know it's impossible to stop one, but looking closely at that video and others, they don't appear to even have their brakes on.


Having watched it a few times (even though you know what's going the happen, the first time I saw the impact I jumped as I didn't realize how sudden and fast it was going to be) I think you can see it's slowed down quite a bit by the time the last car is going over the crossing.

I'm not sure what the standard procedure is, I'll ask the former driver chap when I see him next. I'd note that one of the reasons North American trains have a 'nose' while many European trains don't is to improve crew survivability in crashes like this. Back when they first started introducing 'modern' electric trains back in the early 20th century, there were many traincrew killed when their cab-forward trains hit something as there was no crumple zone so to speak.

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What's with the wailling? They got clear a good minute in advance, and it's not like her babies were still in there.


I think she's hysterical both with panic and with realizing that could have been her that just got creamed by an 80mph express train. It looks like she accidentally drove off the boards onto the tracks and the body of her car was stuck on the rails, holding the tires off the ground.


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Next doors dog has been left on his own outside all day since about 9am this morning. He's been in my garden and various others with his tail inbetween his legs. He looks really scared... and he's very thin. I can see his ribs!

I've called the RSPCA but will they do anything? The person I spoke to on the phone seemed :shrug:

What sort of dog is it? Some dogs are always thin, no matter how well you look after them.
And the RSPCA are crap.


9am in this weather is just wrong, one of my dogs gets pissed off after about 20 mins of running around, the other starts whimpering after about 30 seconds - both give me a what did you do that to me for look when they come in that can only be countered with some cheese.

If they don't do anything this time then the next time it happens take a photo every hour with a time stamp on it.

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Holy shit!


Am I being dense, or is that set of coordinates in China?


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Grim... wrote:
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Holy shit!

Are trains that size told to drive through situations like that? I know it's impossible to stop one, but looking closely at that video and others, they don't appear to even have their brakes on.

Someone smarter than me could probably explain the physics, but I always assumed that if something that size, with that momentum and that little traction, would actually be momentarily traveling faster if it was "skidding" into a stationary vehicle.


No. Some of the forward energy would be turned into heat by the application of the brakes against the turny bits and then the wheels against the rails.

A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.


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What's with the wailling? They got clear a good minute in advance, and it's not like her babies were still in there.

Probably the shock of realising that, had she still been in the car, she would now be very, very dead.

Or maybe she really liked her car.

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A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.
In other Theoretical Physics World news, all cows are hollow and spherical.


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A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.
In other Theoretical Physics World news, all cows are hollow and spherical.

:DD This was one of the reasons I stopped paying attention in O' level physics.

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MaliA wrote:
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Holy shit!

Are trains that size told to drive through situations like that? I know it's impossible to stop one, but looking closely at that video and others, they don't appear to even have their brakes on.

Someone smarter than me could probably explain the physics, but I always assumed that if something that size, with that momentum and that little traction, would actually be momentarily traveling faster if it was "skidding" into a stationary vehicle.


No. Some of the forward energy would be turned into heat by the application of the brakes against the turny bits and then the wheels against the rails.

A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.


Sorry. What part of "smarter than me" did you fail to recognise? :kiss:

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Someone smarter than me could probably explain the physics, but I always assumed that if something that size, with that momentum and that little traction, would actually be momentarily traveling faster if it was "skidding" into a stationary vehicle.
Hey, if we put dynamos on the train to harness the speed up from it applying the brakes whilst also forcing all the passengers to lie on armed hand grenades, we could invent a perpetual motion machine!


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You've over-engineered that. It wouldn't be a perpetual motion machine, it would be an infinitely accelerating motion machine. It will also save the human race when the universe begins to contract again in the far future because centripetal force will counteract the universe's attempts to shrink.


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Well, I've just watched the programme about the fat man, and felt the need to sit here at 3AM and moan about it.

I feel like I'm completely unable to feel any sympathy for people who are victims of their own wrongdoing in such a monstrous way. But my main issue here isn't with the fact he's fat, or even with him begrudging the NHS for refusing his operation in the past, but with the way the show—and even the surgeon—reported his problems and obesity in general.

The surgeon/consultant had mentioned how at this chap's particular weight it was almost impossible for him, without mobility, to burn off any calories. Yet the operation was nothing more than a gastric band which does nothing for the condition itself, but simply restricts the amount of food one can eat and the amount of energy one can absorb from that food. It's essentially a forced diet, but without the grumpiness involved. The entire point of the operation is to reduce the calorific intake and allow a natural loss of weight to occur, yet it was portrayed as the only solution to the problem by both the media and surgeon/consultant involved, and that without it there was absolutely no way in the world this chap could lose any weight at all.

Yet here the guy was, a few months later and many stone lighter, after reducing his calorific intake by a factor of sixteen. His weight was lost naturally due to the simple principle of ‘If you want to lose weight, take in less energy than you expend’. No doubt the operation helped him, but there's no fucking way that it was entirely impossible without medical intervention.

Gah. Fucking sob stories spun into shifting the blame and feigning futility.


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Did his neck look like a vagina?


No. His face and neck were surprisingly slim. That said, he spent the entire show naked, and there wasn't even a hint of showing any cock and/or balls, such were the size of his legs and belly.


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Well, I've just watched the programme about the fat man, and felt the need to sit here at 3AM and moan about it.

I feel like I'm completely unable to feel any sympathy for people who are victims of their own wrongdoing in such a monstrous way. But my main issue here isn't with the fact he's fat, or even with him begrudging the NHS for refusing his operation in the past, but with the way the show—and even the surgeon—reported his problems and obesity in general.

The surgeon/consultant had mentioned how at this chap's particular weight it was almost impossible for him, without mobility, to burn off any calories. Yet the operation was nothing more than a gastric band which does nothing for the condition itself, but simply restricts the amount of food one can eat and the amount of energy one can absorb from that food. It's essentially a forced diet, but without the grumpiness involved. The entire point of the operation is to reduce the calorific intake and allow a natural loss of weight to occur, yet it was portrayed as the only solution to the problem by both the media and surgeon/consultant involved, and that without it there was absolutely no way in the world this chap could lose any weight at all.

Yet here the guy was, a few months later and many stone lighter, after reducing his calorific intake by a factor of sixteen. His weight was lost naturally due to the simple principle of ‘If you want to lose weight, take in less energy than you expend’. No doubt the operation helped him, but there's no fucking way that it was entirely impossible without medical intervention.

Gah. Fucking sob stories spun into shifting the blame and feigning futility.

I think anyone who is so extremely fat is clearly suffering some sort of case of the mentals and in terms of NHS spending it's probably more expedient to deal with it by getting the weight off through surgery and then dealing with the mentals than by just continually shouting at him to stop eating so much.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MaliA wrote:
A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.
In other Theoretical Physics World news, all cows are hollow and spherical.


There is, of course, every chance that I wasn't being entirely serious.

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A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.
In other Theoretical Physics World news, all cows are hollow and spherical.


There is, of course, every chance that I wasn't being entirely serious.

Science is always serious.

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Nearly 5 years I've lived in London now and today, possibly for the first time, I forgot to touch in at Lewisham with my Oyster. Then got ticket checked on train for the first time in the month, and I have a lovely £25 penalty fare as I don't use a travelcard as it is cheaper not to :(

To compound my error, I now realise that I still touched out at Canary Wharf, so I'll get a penalty max fare charge as well. Boo-urns.

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Zardoz wrote:
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A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.
In other Theoretical Physics World news, all cows are hollow and spherical.


There is, of course, every chance that I wasn't being entirely serious.

Science is always serious.


Explain penguins, then.

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MaliA wrote:
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A flyhitting the windscreen of an Intercity 125 travelling at top whack momentarily stops them, though, which is why the Aberden-London train in the summer is always late.
In other Theoretical Physics World news, all cows are hollow and spherical.


There is, of course, every chance that I wasn't being entirely serious.

Science is always serious.


Explain penguins, then.

There is, of course, every chance that I wasn't being entirely serious.

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I think anyone who is so extremely fat is clearly suffering some sort of case of the mentals and in terms of NHS spending it's probably more expedient to deal with it by getting the weight off through surgery and then dealing with the mentals than by just continually shouting at him to stop eating so much.


I know that, and I don't necessarily disagree with the operation being performed; they clearly have a disorder. What I do disagree with is the media and supposed professionals telling us that it's absolutely the only way for this man to physically lose weight, that he's past the point of dieting, even though that's exactly how this operation functions; it simply removes the chance of him continuing to stuff himself.


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I think anyone who is so extremely fat is clearly suffering some sort of case of the mentals and in terms of NHS spending it's probably more expedient to deal with it by getting the weight off through surgery and then dealing with the mentals than by just continually shouting at him to stop eating so much.


I know that, and I don't necessarily disagree with the operation being performed; they clearly have a disorder. What I do disagree with is the media and supposed professionals telling us that it's absolutely the only way for this man to physically lose weight, that he's past the point of dieting, even though that's exactly how this operation functions; it simply removes the chance of him continuing to stuff himself.


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My auntie's just succumbed to a one-two punch of pneumonia and swine flu at 41, leaving behind two teenaged boys. I can't even imagine their devastation. Even my mum has the thousand-yard stare.


Sorry to hear that.

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I blame Nikachu.


There were some in the US of late, too.

Just like Flash Forward.

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My auntie's just succumbed to a one-two punch of pneumonia and swine flu at 41, leaving behind two teenaged boys. I can't even imagine their devastation. Even my mum has the thousand-yard stare.


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My auntie's just succumbed to a one-two punch of pneumonia and swine flu at 41, leaving behind two teenaged boys. I can't even imagine their devastation. Even my mum has the thousand-yard stare.


Fuck me that's awful. Sorry to hear that Klatyrmadon.

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So sorry to hear that, Klatrymadon.

My thoughts to you and the family, especially her two boys.

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MaliA wrote:
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I blame Nikachu.


There were some in the US of late, too.

Just like Flash Forward.

Or Jericho...

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MaliA wrote:
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Dozens of dead birds have been found lying in a residential street in Sweden

I blame Nikachu.


There were some in the US of late, too.

Just like Flash Forward.

Or Jericho...


Not seen that. It any good?

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Very sorry to hear that Klatrymadon, how awful. 41...? :(

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MaliA wrote:
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Dozens of dead birds have been found lying in a residential street in Sweden

I blame Nikachu.


There were some in the US of late, too.

Just like Flash Forward.

Or Jericho...


Not seen that. It any good?

Very. Nuclear bomb goes off near small Kansas town, no contact with outside world, chaos ensues. Very good indeed. Series 2 is a little less good, but still watchable.

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 Post subject: Re: BITS AND BOBS 26
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:46 
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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Very. Nuclear bomb goes off near small Kansas town, no contact with outside world, chaos ensues. Very good indeed. Series 2 is a little less good, but still watchable.


I watched it.

My verdict = Meh.


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 Post subject: Re: BITS AND BOBS 26
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:52 
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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Very. Nuclear bomb goes off near small Kansas town, no contact with outside world, chaos ensues. Very good indeed. Series 2 is a little less good, but still watchable.


Worth £12, then, for series 1+2?

EDIT: I@m going to wait as I still need to watch:

The Pacific
The Wire Series 1
The Wire Series 2
BSG Series 1
BSG Series 2

Before anything else...

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 Post subject: Re: BITS AND BOBS 26
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:53 
Those birds were in southern Sweden. Do we know what caused the American birds to fall outta the sky yet?


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