Be Excellent To Each Other

Ronan O'Dougohan is my favourite Irish pundit.

They should totally put up a big screen then dig a hole in the road outside the embassy and cover it in leaves and twigs and shit then take the screen down and tell Ecuador that we were wrong and that they can take him and when they drive out of the embassy the car will fall in the hole and they'll go whoooaah and we'll go yeeaahh and then we throw a smoke grenade in and when they cant see send ninjas and shit in to take him out the car and leave someone else there that we dont need anymore and when the smoke clears they will say hes totally not julian assange and well say yeah he totally isnt cos weve got that dude and were going to send him to sweden cos we rule and are the greatest and now you just have michael barrymore and you dont want him and yeah were the best TEAM GB YEAH or we can make jess ennis walk around outside and hell run out the door to go like touch her up and things and shell run away dead fast and the police can catch him in a blanket. They should totally ask me for ideas

Isn't that replacing one punishment with another, much more horrifying one.





I mean... Giving DavPaz... *shivers*

Ecuador has granted him asylum.

Jesus, this is never going to end.

I bet he sneaks out the back door in one of Curiositys bins

I bet 50 nuns will go into the embassy, and, 15 minutes later, 50 nuns leave the embassy. That's what I'd do.

Assange just won his bid to be locked in a tiny room forever without trial. Good job!

This would be spectacular. Technically, the UK would have to shoot down a random helicopter flying into London.

We've got the means. Outside my fucking house.

I liked the letter from the UK government:

"You need to be aware that there is a legal base in the UK, the Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act 1987, that would allow us to take actions in order to arrest Mr Assange in the current premises of the embassy.

We need to reiterate that we consider the continued use of the diplomatic premises in this way incompatible with the Vienna convention and unsustainable and we have made clear the serious implications that this has for our diplomatic relations."'

Diplomatese for "Look, there are laws about this sort of thing, and you're on the wrong side of them. Hand him over or we'll start to get pissed off, you tinpoint banana republic bunch of twats"

And this is the letter that Ecuador said was Britain threatening to attack the nation’s London Embassy if it did not hand over WikiLeaker Julian Assange...

Didn't they refer to some UK legislation though, which I thought was directly incompatible with the Vienna doodah?

The Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act, yes. I'm not sure it's incompatible with the Vienna Convention, tho.
The Vienna Convention says a lot less than most people assume it does.

This means nothing to me.

It means nothing to me.

FUCK YOU, FUCKFACE.

Da Da La Da La Da Da Da Daaaaa - HA!

Heh.

Anyway, it seems the Veinna Convention actually is pretty clear on the "you no steppy inny the embassy without our sayso, okeyday?", so I'm not clear on the UK act's basis.

Article 22 seems pretty clear:



ETA: Mr Kissyfur wins!

HOWEVER, on further research it seems the Act allows the government to at will declare the embassy to no longer be an embassy, which is a fairly neat way around the problem of the inviolability of the embassy premises.

Anyway, we should just get the Yanks in to black bag the egotistical oversexed little twat.

o/

Mr Kissyfur wins o'clock, do you mean?

If the UK government can do this, what's to stop any foreign government from doing it to UK embassies overseas? The entire diplomatic service is based on the central agreement that 'if you don't fuck with our embassies/diplomats we won't fuck with yours', so if one country unilaterally violates that agreement doesn't the whole thing fall apart?

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What it amounts to is 3 kids playing tig and one kid camping in the safe area. The other 2 reckon it's not fair and try to tig him anyway. But them's the rules, if you don't like it, take your ball and go home.

Absolutely so, yes. The whole thing is based on mutuality, as there's no big international diplomatic court you can go to to whine about how the congestion charge is really a tax and we shouldn't have to pay it and they arrested me for abusing children this wouldn't happen in the US waaah waaah waaah.

So if you piss someone off they may well piss right back.

However, bear in mind that here we're talking about a dispute between the UK and Ecuador. I fancy our chances. We completely beat them at the Olympics.

To be honest I'm amazed Julie didn't pitch up at the Argentinian embassy as they'd be well up for sticking two fingers up at us.

I'm always wary about reading something in to Article X without reading the other Articles A - Z. We don't know, for example, that Article 23 doesn't say that Article 22 doesn't apply if you're harbouring someone against whom the state has valid grievances who has no other connection with your state.

However, it seems that my 'can stop diplomatic car' theory was wrong. However, I'm sure that I could be stopped, but wouldn't be, because I had immunity from prosection. Unless I'd been drink driving, in which case it was waived by the UK on your behalf.

Wow. I'm fuckling awesome.

You really are quite the ugly fuckling, yes.

Wise words. However, Article 43 adds, in effect, "we really really mean article 22, even if the ambassador has got a sex slave factory in there.". I do this work so you don't have to.

I decided to keep the typo as it amused me.

What's an amuse bouche?

Even if the "furnishings" are a nuclear bomb? We should totally do this in Argentina.

To be honest I'm not worried about Ecuador specifically, more the fact that a move like this might devalue our diplomatic standing to the point that the next time some banana republic explodes into a military coup or whatever that the aggressors in question just storm our embassy with an attitude of 'fuck the UK, they demonstrably don't give a shit about diplomatic agreements anyway so why should we care about their rights here' rather than stopping to think about it for a while (which might end up saving lives). Or, to make a slightly less hysterically dramatic example, someone seeking refuge in a UK embassy overseas gets pulled out of there by the local government because we've undermined our own ability to claim that privilege with this nonsense.

From what little I know about diplomatic immunity (hey I have watched lots of American TV), its the Diplomatic Pouch that is unstoppable, so all they have to do is get a nice big 6ft pouch for him to climb into before transport?

I am a fricking genius

The answer must therefore be to promote kangaroos to be your nation's ambassadors.

I see your point, and agree with it to an extent. Bear in mind, though, that our embassies don't even give refuge to UK citizens in local trouble.

That would be someone tactless, seeing as it was climbing into pouches that got him into this mess.

I thought they handled the court side of things?

They do, however, give out lots of Pimms to expats on the queens birthday, so swings and roundabouts.

Good summary, here.

http://pme200.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/assange.html

Galloway's an idiot.

Excellent blog post.

You're very unlikely to get hits from a legitimate blog post. The internet shuts down and protects itself.

This is news, how?

I feel the need to reaffirm my views.

He's mentally ill. I heard a bit of that podast, and could just imagine him sat in a room on his own, shouting at his increasingly spittle-flecked microphone, waving his arms around as if to fend off the very Great Satan itself.

Whatever Galloways latest ravings are, they find themselves redirected to the part of my brain that just says 'Galloway is being a dick'. He's such a parody of himself that I can't get as angry with him as a sitting MP about comments as I do with a Republican candidate over the pond who did the same. Odd, but scary.

Letter about Galloway in the Metro today, which made a lot of sense and had good points in it from a woman in a rape counseling service/thing, which was then punctuated by the statement (paraphrased as I can't remember exactly) "Rape is defined as non-consensual sex with a woman"
I'm sorry, what? This is the same paper that had a story about a 14yr old boy being raped in manchester.

The whole story seems to be bringing out the idiots on all sides...

If I were in charge, I'd arrange to charge JA with the leak of secret documents that were really quite dull, and ignore the rest of them. That way, his supporter's can't be grumpy, as what Mr Smith likes for dinner isn't the US being stompy on poor people's heads, and they can still execute him, as it is spying or whatevers. Everyone's a winner. After he goesto Sweden and faces arrest and trial. And serves his sentence there. Trips across the Atlantic should be soemthing to look forward to.

Following on from this victory, I'd rebuke Ecuador in some public fashion for wanting to play with the big boys. I'd invade it and donate it to Sweden.

Vote for MaliA.

There's the usual grumpy leftwing twat Milne's defence of Assange and Ecuador in the Graun today. That man would support any regime as long as it hated the West.

Yeah, I read that, too.