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Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:15 ]
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No studio audience for S7. The laugh track was recorded "live" after. The extended versions of S7 have no laugh track and it's proper eerie. I think those versions are on the DVDs

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:32 ]
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According to something I heard in an interview ages ago, comedies shot in front of live audiences often air with a laugh track rather than the audience's reaction, at least in part. Recording the audience can mess up timing of jokes, or have one person laughing distractingly loud, or otherwise get in the way of the show. The live audience is there to help the actor's performance, not be part of the show.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:38 ]
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It's also quite hard to get the same laugh for a joke when you've heard it three times due to retakes.

Ken Levine, who used to write for 'Frasier', 'MASH', and 'Cheers', wrote a blog post about this recently.

Author:  Mimi [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:43 ]
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I similarly either read a piece or watched a program once that said that there is a tendency for some members of an audience to give the last or loudest laugh, laugh beyond the natural laugh period or in a notable manner to be able to give an identifiable laugh for when they watch it back, so the audience laughter is smoothed post-production.

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:33 ]
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I went to a taping of Harry Hills TV burp once and they definitely put a laugh track on afterwards. The show we saw was quite different to the one that actually went out on TV so I guess the moral of the story is to not believe anything you see or hear on telly.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:05 ]
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TheVision wrote:
I went to a taping of Harry Hills TV burp once and they definitely put a laugh track on afterwards. The show we saw was quite different to the one that actually went out on TV so I guess the moral of the story is to not believe anything you see or hear on telly.

The penny and the pie were NOT YOURS!!!

Author:  Kern [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:16 ]
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I only find laugh tracks annoying when I don't find something particularly funny, or if the audience make that annoying whooping noise every scene. I often forget that 'Frasier' has an audience, for example. But I'm glad for most of the stuff I watch these days they aren't there.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:50 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
TheVision wrote:
I went to a taping of Harry Hills TV burp once and they definitely put a laugh track on afterwards. The show we saw was quite different to the one that actually went out on TV so I guess the moral of the story is to not believe anything you see or hear on telly.

The penny and the pie were NOT YOURS!!!


Is this the next big game show scandal?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:55 ]
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Kern wrote:
Ken Levine, who used to write for 'Frasier', 'MASH', and 'Cheers', wrote a blog post about this recently.


Quote:
Here’s an interesting thing – audiences respond way better to things they see live actors do rather than watching finished pre-records. In other words, let’s say I’m directing an episode with a car scene. I will pre-shoot it.

The editor will put it together that night and the following night when we shoot the show in front of 250 people we’ll have the ability to play it back for them and record their laughter.

However, when I direct, instead of showing that finished scene I bring out the actors involved, place them in two chairs, explain to the audience that they’re in a car driving, and have the actors do the scene live. I record the audio and even though the audience has to now imagine the scene, they laugh much louder having real actors performing the scene.

It all goes back to why some shows are filmed in front of an audience in the first place – there’s a real energy the cast derives from a live audience. They feed off their laughter. Their performances go up and if the writing is good the whole show rises. It’s intangible but the home viewer can sense it.

Getting back to that car scene, I wonder what would happen if we just aired the scene of the two actors on chairs instead of the real one with them in an actual car. I don't think the home audience would be thinking about the laugh track at that moment.


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Author:  Grim... [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:00 ]
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Fun fact - if they use prerecorded (or 'canned') laughter, often those recording are very old, and the people laughing in them are almost certainly dead.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:02 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kern wrote:
Ken Levine, who used to write for 'Frasier', 'MASH', and 'Cheers', wrote a blog post about this recently.


Quote:
Here’s an interesting thing – audiences respond way better to things they see live actors do rather than watching finished pre-records. In other words, let’s say I’m directing an episode with a car scene. I will pre-shoot it.

The editor will put it together that night and the following night when we shoot the show in front of 250 people we’ll have the ability to play it back for them and record their laughter.

However, when I direct, instead of showing that finished scene I bring out the actors involved, place them in two chairs, explain to the audience that they’re in a car driving, and have the actors do the scene live. I record the audio and even though the audience has to now imagine the scene, they laugh much louder having real actors performing the scene.

It all goes back to why some shows are filmed in front of an audience in the first place – there’s a real energy the cast derives from a live audience. They feed off their laughter. Their performances go up and if the writing is good the whole show rises. It’s intangible but the home viewer can sense it.

Getting back to that car scene, I wonder what would happen if we just aired the scene of the two actors on chairs instead of the real one with them in an actual car. I don't think the home audience would be thinking about the laugh track at that moment.


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I remember watching him tip over completely on the Smeg Ups VHS :D

Author:  Warhead [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:31 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Fun fact - if they use prerecorded (or 'canned') laughter, often those recording are very old, and the people laughing in them are almost certainly dead.


If Dead Can Dance, presumably Dead Can Laugh.

Author:  Warhead [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:37 ]
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Howard’s End on the Beeb. Brill. Just hope they get to the end before one of the cast is accused of sexual shenanigans and has to be edited out and replaced by Christopher Plummer.

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:22 ]
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I watched a programme last night and it was called Motherload. It's got Philonmena Cunk (Diane Morgan) in it and I thought it was very funny.

It's about parents dealing with the school run, PTA and stuff like that. Most amusing.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:31 ]
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TheVision wrote:
I watched a programme last night and it was called Motherload. It's got Philonmena Cunk (Diane Morgan) in it and I thought it was very funny.

It's about parents dealing with the school run, PTA and stuff like that. Most amusing.


Motherland! Though Motherload is almost as good a name.

Loved the pilot, not caught the series yet, thanks for the heads up

Author:  Kern [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:37 ]
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'Peaky Blinders' starts again tonight! Yay!

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 22:08 ]
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Kern wrote:
'Peaky Blinders' starts again tonight! Yay!



I think I have missed season 3 completely.... arse..

Author:  DBSnappa [ Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:54 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Kern wrote:
'Peaky Blinders' starts again tonight! Yay!



I think I have missed season 3 completely.... arse..

It’s on the iPlayer I think

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:59 ]
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Did anyone else watch the final of Robot Wars last night? I came into the series about half way through but I wish I'd watched the lot. It was great!

Author:  markg [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:03 ]
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Ha, yeah. That was some epic roboteering right there.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:06 ]
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Incidentally, did anyone watch Can We Live With Robots on saturday night?

Super interesting look at the development of robots and the connections human beings are trying to forge with them. Unsurprisingly spent the majority of the programme in Japan. The whole show was weirdly built around this rather-shoehorned premise of the choreographer-cum-presenter trying to explore human-robot relationships through dance. Could have done without the inevitable 10-minute showstopper dance at the end, but I am a known philistine when it comes to dramatic prancin'.

Also featured this dude and his robot.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 15:11 ]
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I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 15:12 ]
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It's bloody excellent

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 14:21 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.

So I'm halfway through S2 and omg omg omg. Keeley Hawes is just amazing.

Author:  Warhead [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:14 ]
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Final episode of Bancroft was annoying, but perhaps paves the way for another series, although there has been no mention of that as far as I know.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:46 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Kern wrote:
'Peaky Blinders' starts again tonight! Yay!



I think I have missed season 3 completely.... arse..

It’s on the iPlayer I think


Caught it on Netflix.. will try and catch up tonight

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:52 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.

So I'm halfway through S2 and omg omg omg. Keeley Hawes is just amazing.

This just goes from strength to strength. A regular household quote now, upon anything going wrong, is to snarl "catching criminals is hard enough, BUT CATCHING BENT COPPERS... GIVE ME STRENGTH!"

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:55 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.

So I'm halfway through S2 and omg omg omg. Keeley Hawes is just amazing.

This just goes from strength to strength. A regular household quote now, upon anything going wrong, is to snarl "catching criminals is hard enough, BUT CATCHING BENT COPPERS... GIVE ME STRENGTH!"


His accent is absolutely amazing, too. To my mind this is about the best British TV output in years.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:00 ]
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Hard to disagree with that.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 13:54 ]
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Yeah, great show.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 14:00 ]
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Cras wrote:
His accent is absolutely amazing, too.

I lolled hard when a hostile brief told Hastings to
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"Dial down the Ian Paisley"

Author:  Findus Fop [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 22:42 ]
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Charlie Brooker on Room 101 next Friday. Feels like an ideal format for him.

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 14:56 ]
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Did anyone see Inside Number 9 last night? I've just watched it and thought it was absolutely brilliant! It almost had me in tears it was that good.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:07 ]
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Findus Fop wrote:
Charlie Brooker on Room 101 next Friday. Feels like an ideal format for him.

Does he get to punch Paul Merton in the face?

Author:  Findus Fop [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:22 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
Charlie Brooker on Room 101 next Friday. Feels like an ideal format for him.

Does he get to punch Paul Merton in the face?


It's Frank Skinner hosting it, these days.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:31 ]
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Findus Fop wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
Charlie Brooker on Room 101 next Friday. Feels like an ideal format for him.

Does he get to punch Paul Merton in the face?


It's Frank Skinner hosting it, these days.

God, even better.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:32 ]
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Has been for exactly six years.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:42 ]
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I can only apologise for my out of date knowledge of shitty BBC2 shows.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:44 ]
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I've never been taken by the newish format. The one-on-one interviews and arguments with Paul Merton and his predecessor-whose-name-escapes-me could sometimes make for captivating television. With three people in a half hour show you just don't get the depth, and just annoyance if the weak guest is getting the limelight.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:46 ]
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I thought Nick Hancock did it

Author:  Kern [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:47 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
I thought Nick Hancock did it


That's the one.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:48 ]
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Was he the guy who did the shitty sports panel "comedy" show with the posher cricketer and Lee Hirst?

Author:  Trousers [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:59 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Was he the guy who did the shitty sports panel "comedy" show with the posher cricketer and Lee Hirst?


Yep. Lee Hurst is a special kind of alt-right tosspot now on Twitter you will be pleased to hear.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 16:03 ]
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Trousers wrote:
alt-right tosspot


Bzzz. Repetition.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 16:04 ]
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God must all our heroes have feet of clay?

Author:  Trousers [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 16:38 ]
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Kern wrote:
Trousers wrote:
alt-right tosspot


Bzzz. Repetition.


Correct - Kern, you have 26 seconds left on 'Describing a typical Daily Mail reader'

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 17:16 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Did anyone see Inside Number 9 last night? I've just watched it and thought it was absolutely brilliant! It almost had me in tears it was that good.

I haven't seen the second episode yet, but the first was amusing. Good, yes?

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 18:24 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Did anyone see Inside Number 9 last night? I've just watched it and thought it was absolutely brilliant! It almost had me in tears it was that good.

I haven't seen the second episode yet, but the first was amusing. Good, yes?

It was. I'm in awe of the genius like minds that can come up with a programme like this and execute it so well in a half hour show.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:43 ]
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HYPE TRAIN HYPE TRAIN HYPE TRAIN WOO WOO


Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:20 ]
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WHOO WHOOOOOO

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