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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:32 
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According to something I heard in an interview ages ago, comedies shot in front of live audiences often air with a laugh track rather than the audience's reaction, at least in part. Recording the audience can mess up timing of jokes, or have one person laughing distractingly loud, or otherwise get in the way of the show. The live audience is there to help the actor's performance, not be part of the show.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:38 
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It's also quite hard to get the same laugh for a joke when you've heard it three times due to retakes.

Ken Levine, who used to write for 'Frasier', 'MASH', and 'Cheers', wrote a blog post about this recently.


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I similarly either read a piece or watched a program once that said that there is a tendency for some members of an audience to give the last or loudest laugh, laugh beyond the natural laugh period or in a notable manner to be able to give an identifiable laugh for when they watch it back, so the audience laughter is smoothed post-production.

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I went to a taping of Harry Hills TV burp once and they definitely put a laugh track on afterwards. The show we saw was quite different to the one that actually went out on TV so I guess the moral of the story is to not believe anything you see or hear on telly.


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I went to a taping of Harry Hills TV burp once and they definitely put a laugh track on afterwards. The show we saw was quite different to the one that actually went out on TV so I guess the moral of the story is to not believe anything you see or hear on telly.

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I only find laugh tracks annoying when I don't find something particularly funny, or if the audience make that annoying whooping noise every scene. I often forget that 'Frasier' has an audience, for example. But I'm glad for most of the stuff I watch these days they aren't there.


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I went to a taping of Harry Hills TV burp once and they definitely put a laugh track on afterwards. The show we saw was quite different to the one that actually went out on TV so I guess the moral of the story is to not believe anything you see or hear on telly.

The penny and the pie were NOT YOURS!!!


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose UK TV thread
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Ken Levine, who used to write for 'Frasier', 'MASH', and 'Cheers', wrote a blog post about this recently.


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Here’s an interesting thing – audiences respond way better to things they see live actors do rather than watching finished pre-records. In other words, let’s say I’m directing an episode with a car scene. I will pre-shoot it.

The editor will put it together that night and the following night when we shoot the show in front of 250 people we’ll have the ability to play it back for them and record their laughter.

However, when I direct, instead of showing that finished scene I bring out the actors involved, place them in two chairs, explain to the audience that they’re in a car driving, and have the actors do the scene live. I record the audio and even though the audience has to now imagine the scene, they laugh much louder having real actors performing the scene.

It all goes back to why some shows are filmed in front of an audience in the first place – there’s a real energy the cast derives from a live audience. They feed off their laughter. Their performances go up and if the writing is good the whole show rises. It’s intangible but the home viewer can sense it.

Getting back to that car scene, I wonder what would happen if we just aired the scene of the two actors on chairs instead of the real one with them in an actual car. I don't think the home audience would be thinking about the laugh track at that moment.


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Fun fact - if they use prerecorded (or 'canned') laughter, often those recording are very old, and the people laughing in them are almost certainly dead.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kern wrote:
Ken Levine, who used to write for 'Frasier', 'MASH', and 'Cheers', wrote a blog post about this recently.


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Here’s an interesting thing – audiences respond way better to things they see live actors do rather than watching finished pre-records. In other words, let’s say I’m directing an episode with a car scene. I will pre-shoot it.

The editor will put it together that night and the following night when we shoot the show in front of 250 people we’ll have the ability to play it back for them and record their laughter.

However, when I direct, instead of showing that finished scene I bring out the actors involved, place them in two chairs, explain to the audience that they’re in a car driving, and have the actors do the scene live. I record the audio and even though the audience has to now imagine the scene, they laugh much louder having real actors performing the scene.

It all goes back to why some shows are filmed in front of an audience in the first place – there’s a real energy the cast derives from a live audience. They feed off their laughter. Their performances go up and if the writing is good the whole show rises. It’s intangible but the home viewer can sense it.

Getting back to that car scene, I wonder what would happen if we just aired the scene of the two actors on chairs instead of the real one with them in an actual car. I don't think the home audience would be thinking about the laugh track at that moment.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose UK TV thread
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Fun fact - if they use prerecorded (or 'canned') laughter, often those recording are very old, and the people laughing in them are almost certainly dead.


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Howard’s End on the Beeb. Brill. Just hope they get to the end before one of the cast is accused of sexual shenanigans and has to be edited out and replaced by Christopher Plummer.

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I watched a programme last night and it was called Motherload. It's got Philonmena Cunk (Diane Morgan) in it and I thought it was very funny.

It's about parents dealing with the school run, PTA and stuff like that. Most amusing.


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I watched a programme last night and it was called Motherload. It's got Philonmena Cunk (Diane Morgan) in it and I thought it was very funny.

It's about parents dealing with the school run, PTA and stuff like that. Most amusing.


Motherland! Though Motherload is almost as good a name.

Loved the pilot, not caught the series yet, thanks for the heads up


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'Peaky Blinders' starts again tonight! Yay!


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'Peaky Blinders' starts again tonight! Yay!



I think I have missed season 3 completely.... arse..

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I think I have missed season 3 completely.... arse..

It’s on the iPlayer I think

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Did anyone else watch the final of Robot Wars last night? I came into the series about half way through but I wish I'd watched the lot. It was great!


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Ha, yeah. That was some epic roboteering right there.


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Incidentally, did anyone watch Can We Live With Robots on saturday night?

Super interesting look at the development of robots and the connections human beings are trying to forge with them. Unsurprisingly spent the majority of the programme in Japan. The whole show was weirdly built around this rather-shoehorned premise of the choreographer-cum-presenter trying to explore human-robot relationships through dance. Could have done without the inevitable 10-minute showstopper dance at the end, but I am a known philistine when it comes to dramatic prancin'.

Also featured this dude and his robot.


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I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.


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It's bloody excellent

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I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.

So I'm halfway through S2 and omg omg omg. Keeley Hawes is just amazing.


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Final episode of Bancroft was annoying, but perhaps paves the way for another series, although there has been no mention of that as far as I know.

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KovacsC wrote:
Kern wrote:
'Peaky Blinders' starts again tonight! Yay!



I think I have missed season 3 completely.... arse..

It’s on the iPlayer I think


Caught it on Netflix.. will try and catch up tonight

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.

So I'm halfway through S2 and omg omg omg. Keeley Hawes is just amazing.

This just goes from strength to strength. A regular household quote now, upon anything going wrong, is to snarl "catching criminals is hard enough, BUT CATCHING BENT COPPERS... GIVE ME STRENGTH!"


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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I am finally watching Line Of Duty, the BBC drama about the police's Anti-Corruption force. It's very good. It's on Netflix if you missed it at the time, like me.

So I'm halfway through S2 and omg omg omg. Keeley Hawes is just amazing.

This just goes from strength to strength. A regular household quote now, upon anything going wrong, is to snarl "catching criminals is hard enough, BUT CATCHING BENT COPPERS... GIVE ME STRENGTH!"


His accent is absolutely amazing, too. To my mind this is about the best British TV output in years.

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Hard to disagree with that.


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Yeah, great show.

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His accent is absolutely amazing, too.

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