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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:57 
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So, what do you actually keep in your freezer?

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Dudley wrote:

Again, requires fighting for freezer room with 3 others and the concept of a freezer being more environmentally friendly than throwing out some bread still sits uneasy with me.


Tortillas are pretty flat and easy to fit in a freezer, and if your freezer is on, anyway, then a packed freezer is more environmentally friendly than a freezer with gaps in it, so the little bit of space that your tortillas are taking up will not do anything to harm the environment, it just makes your appliance more energy efficient.

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Fill the freezer, but give the fridge some air. The freezer works most efficiently when packed as full as possible. Need to fill in some space? Tuck extra ice for cold drinks or cold-packs for summer picnics into any empty space in the freezer.
A black-out bonus: full freezers keep food frozen longer if a power outage occurs.


So, whether you buy tortillas or not is not really the point - but to say that throwing food away is better for the environment than freezing it, if your freezer is switched on anyway (which you seem to say it is), is incorrect. If there is at all a possibility of there being room for it then freezing it down makes the freezer more efficient and also cuts down on food waste, which is win-win :)

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So, what do you actually keep in your freezer?


Me? Nothing. Never fancied the arguements over space. I didn't have a freezer for the year before I moved anyway so it's not like I missed it.

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So, whether you buy tortillas or not is not really the point - but to say that throwing food away is better for the environment than freezing it, if your freezer is switched on anyway (which you seem to say it is), is incorrect. If there is at all a possibility of there being room for it then freezing it down makes the freezer more efficient and also cuts down on food waste, which is win-win :)


That's very very interesting.


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Yup, what Mimi said.

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So, what do you actually keep in your freezer?


Bodies. He means it literally when he says he's fighting for space with 3 other people.


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Er, what does BOGOF mean, please? ?:|


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That's very very interesting.


My sarcasm detector is unsure about this, it's on amber. :D

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No sarcasm intended miss. It's not something I'd considered. I assumed keeping extra things cool = more energy.


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Dimrill wrote:
Bums. Just went to make some delicious toast and found the bread (purchased not 3 days ago) had gone rank. Curse this engaged lifestyle with a partner who doesn't like the same bread as me!


Give it time - one of you will buckle and standardisation will be achieved. Choice of teabags will be the first barrier to fall, then type of milk, then the bread.

Thus far I've won 3/3, which makes me think I should make a token compromise somewhere.


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Dudley wrote:
No sarcasm intended miss. It's not something I'd considered. I assumed keeping extra things cool = more energy.

If I remember rightly, fridges and freezers are actually more efficient the fuller they are. Keeping them virtually empty uses more energy than keeping them full, I think.

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It's because air will warm up faster than frozen food will. The more air you have, the more you have to have the heat exchanger running to keep the temp down.

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No sarcasm intended miss. It's not something I'd considered. I assumed keeping extra things cool = more energy.


Excellent - then I have imparted knowledge. My work today is done.

Also, a fridge should be kept about three quarters full, but not full to the brim like a freezer - Fridges still need air to circulate to work efficiently, I believe.

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Mimi wrote:
Also, a fridge should be kept about three quarters full, but not full to the brim like a freezer - Fridges still need air to circulate to work efficiently, I believe.
This is correct.

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I keep all fruit/veg/tubers in the fridge. :metul:

Regarding this, from the Food Standards Agency and this other page:
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You should keep uncooked potatoes somewhere cool and dry but don't keep them in the fridge. This is because putting potatoes in the fridge can increase the amount of sugar they contain, which could lead to higher levels of a chemical called acrylamide when the potatoes are baked, fried or roasted at high temperatures.

Acrylamide is a chemical found in starchy foods that have been cooked at high temperatures. These include crisps, chips, bread and crispbreads. It was first discovered by scientists in Sweden in 2002.

Acrylamide causes cancer in animals and so might also harm people's health.


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According to the NVQ course I took this week you're not even supposed to keep cucumbers or tomatoes in the fridge because they'll spoil quicker, but that's surely what the drawer at the bottom of the fridge is for.

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Dudley wrote:
No sarcasm intended miss. It's not something I'd considered. I assumed keeping extra things cool = more energy.



Getting it cool? yes (or rather maybe) but keeping it cool? no way. It's much easier to keep something solid at a low temperature than it is to keep a gas at the same low temperature.

If your freezer was in a vacuum then that would be a different story...

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Fridge tip - don't put 80 cans of lager in the fridge on a hot day, and expect the rest of your food to stay cold...

Strangely, I never remember that one...

Even worse, people get upset if you throw away their food to fit 80 cans of lager into the fridge in the first place. But they still drink it. Hypocrites.

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Bums. Just went to make some delicious toast and found the bread (purchased not 3 days ago) had gone rank. Curse this engaged lifestyle with a partner who doesn't like the same bread as me!


Give it time - one of you will buckle and standardisation will be achieved. Choice of teabags will be the first barrier to fall, then type of milk, then the bread.

Thus far I've won 3/3, which makes me think I should make a token compromise somewhere.


I won the tea bag thing simply by having a box of 500 when we moved in.


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Fridge tip - don't put 80 cans of lager in the fridge on a hot day, and expect the rest of your food to stay cold...
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Hmm, I spot some space top left for more beer.

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Also you appear to have left the door open, which probably isn't helping.


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Fridge tip - don't put 80 cans of lager in the fridge on a hot day, and expect the rest of your food to stay cold...
I concur with Ste.


The only food is Kraft Cheese Slices, Butter-type-spread, and some sort of chutney. Brilliant.

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Fridge tip - don't put 80 cans of lager in the fridge on a hot day, and expect the rest of your food to stay cold...
I concur with Ste.


You are me and I claim my... HANG ON A MINUTE - is that water at the bottom??? U R TEH FAILZ!!!!111!!!eleven!!1

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where do you buy it?


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andyb wrote:
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Yep, we have a special potatoes bag for that purpose. Try to buy potatoes in paper sacks if you can.

:this:

Maria liked yours so much she bought one. Now I just forget we have potatoes as they're not sat very obviously in the fridge...


You used to keep your spuds in the fridge? ( :hat: )

do they not go all black? ( :hat: again )


Mine never go all black. They do go a bit soft though.
All this talk of cancer scares me! (no it doesn't)

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Fridge tip - don't put 80 cans of lager in the fridge on a hot day, and expect the rest of your food to stay cold...
I concur with Ste.


I like how you have a 1L banana FRIJJ. I thought they stopped making 1L bottles, just like how they stopped making Frijj Extreme!, the cunts

I dislike how all your alcohol is reet girly.

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Who on earth puts potatoes in the fridge? They live in dingy cupboards with their one true love, the onion, and even grow special hands so they can grope them.

I win all the food battles here! But then, I do pretty much all of the cooking and shopping, so I'll be buggered if I'm going to carry around bread I don't even like.

I like food shopping. When I can spare the cash I'm going to buy so much delicious food and cook so many awesome meals that there is a very real possibility of some sort of divine intervention.

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You have some horrible alcopops in there, for each alcopop it is minus one beer point..

See, beer fridge:

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Ooooh, Duvel! That's good stuff!

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Who on earth puts potatoes in the fridge? They live in dingy cupboards with their one true love, the onion, and even grow special hands so they can grope them.


And sometimes they give birth to garlic.


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Mimi's beer fridge!


*Weeps with jealous awe* :'(

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Actually - it is better stocked than that at the moment. That is an old photo of how it once was. It took about four and a half hours for me to drink a single 3.5% coconut beer last night, then I went to bed with a headache. I am rubbish at this drinking lark. Didn't want you thinking we drank them all in one go or anything :DD

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It was, quite.

I once drink a glass of wine in the sun.

Boy, that was a bad idea. I threw up over my friends shoes and couldn't walk up the stairs to my flat, so had to be taken over to her boyfriend's flat to sleep it off, simply because he lived on the ground floor :S

Don't drink wine in the sun, folks. In fact, don't drink wine.

In fact - don't drink.

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Dimrill wrote:
Bums. Just went to make some delicious toast and found the bread (purchased not 3 days ago) had gone rank. Curse this engaged lifestyle with a partner who doesn't like the same bread as me!


Oh well, more for the Aryan uberduck.

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I actually did take it to feed the untermallards today, but they didn't want it.

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I think I win this thread, because I more or less live on different kinds of wholewheat pasta, which lasts a thousand years even if you leave it uncovered in a smelly greenhouse.

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I think I win this thread, because I more or less live on different kinds of wholewheat pasta, which lasts a thousand years even if you leave it uncovered in a smelly greenhouse.


Is it Italian pasta? Think of the food miles!!!!!!!!!

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*Checks*

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Yes, but aren't they usually made using Durham wheat? Durham can't be that far away, can it?

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The wheat is first shipped from Durham to italy, making klatrymadon twice as bad.

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It was, quite.

I once drink a glass of wine in the sun.

Boy, that was a bad idea. I threw up over my friends shoes and couldn't walk up the stairs to my flat, so had to be taken over to her boyfriend's flat to sleep it off, simply because he lived on the ground floor :S

Don't drink wine in the sun, folks. In fact, don't drink wine.

In fact - don't drink.


You have an entirely inverted alcoholic life from me. I love wine, especially in the sun, and have a deep-seated hatred of beer.

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It was, quite.

I once drink a glass of wine in the sun.

Boy, that was a bad idea. I threw up over my friends shoes and couldn't walk up the stairs to my flat, so had to be taken over to her boyfriend's flat to sleep it off, simply because he lived on the ground floor :S

Don't drink wine in the sun, folks. In fact, don't drink wine.

In fact - don't drink.


You have an entirely inverted alcoholic life from me. I love wine, especially in the sun, and have a deep-seated hatred of beer.

:)


I do not like beer either. What I like is coconut beer, or banana beer. It's essentially just coconut juice, which happens to be a little bit alcoholic. You can't taste the alcymahol, though. I like wine, also, It just doesn't like me.

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Beer is excellent. Actually, qualifier: good beer is excellent, not the shite people usually drink, which is the equivalent of 99p bottles of wine. Wychwood (Blonde Beer/Fiddler's Elbow) and Fuller's (Discovery/Honey Dew/1845) are a couple of largeish brands that kick out pretty good product that you can usually buy in a decent supermarket (such as Waitrose). God forbid you actually want to buy any beer in an off-licence these days (at least round these parts)—they're all full of bloody wine. (I'm not anti-wine: I just find it a shame that a beer-brewing nation—and a good one at that—is so into wine and anti-beer these days.) Other mainstreamish but not rubbish beers I'm enjoying of late are Cobra (good with almost anything) and Corona, which, unsurprisingly, is great with Mexican. Local stuff is best, though, such as beers from Hogs Back Brewery.


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Wychwood also make the excellent Green Goblin cider. 3 bottles for £4 at Morrison's for that.

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I actually don't mind this kind of stuff, even though I share your passion for good beers and ales. It usually has the colour (and approximate taste) of a kids' blackcurrant juice drink, but it's CHEAP and BOOZY.

Asda are selling mulled wine for £1.50 a bottle at the moment. It's not bad at all!

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Beer is excellent. Actually, qualifier: good beer is excellent, not the shite people usually drink.


As you can see from the picture (my) Craig does not drink crap beer. Most of what Craig drinks are too potent for me (he favours Belgian beers) but I like a few fruit beers, in moderation :S

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As you can see from the picture (my) Craig does not drink crap beer.

I noticed. And your fridge is shockingly full of beer. (Ours has only a few bottles, because I'm running my beer down to nothing, so I can start again with buying new stuff and trying new beers.)

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Wychwood also needs to sort the fucking distribution out of Fiddler's Elbow. I can't find the stuff anywhere at the moment. And considering we have a Tesco down the road that's the approximate size of Wales, along with a totally excellent Waitrose, that's really annoying.


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