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I actually thought that episode was a bit of a slow one, and a bit too long. First one this season that hasn't really done it for me.

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Carl didn't take the shot on Negan. He was clearly on a suicide mission as there was no way he was going to get into the compound, kill Negan, and get out again. AND HE HAD THE SHOT. He had Negan a few feet away, with a powerful automatic rifle AIMED AT HIS HEAD, and he didn't take the shot.

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The first half could have been completely jettisoned IMO, or at least condensed into five minutes. I don't recall anything happened, apart from Rick and Aaron apparently losing their minds and trying to row to the houseboat thingy in a smaller boat that was clearly going to quickly sink in the middle of all the zombies. (And which they readily acknowledged themselves.) This felt terribly shoehorned in just to get the episode a tick in the 'has a zombie in it' column.

The second half however was a lot better, in fact the entire episode should have just started when Rick and Aaron returned to Alexandria.

Negan seemed a little less pantomimish (although I think the 'where are your guts' routine probably played out better in the comic), it was all quite tense and well done, yay Spencer got killed, fuck knows how Rosita missed Negan at point-blank range, oh Olivia got shot as well and Negan made more fat jokes.

If we were supposed to get all emotional about Rick and Daryl's reunion it didn't much work for me, and that sequence at the end where they showed all the faces for a few seconds each seriously overestimated how much most people care about this lot, see also, final sequence with Rick and Michonne.

Oh and then customary post-credits teaser.

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It was the guy from the houseboat thingy, the one with the barbed wire wrapped round his boot, spying on the Alexandrians using binoculars. (I assume he's the 'owner' of the houseboat and wrote the 'you still lose' note).

So he might have a part to play in the upcoming shenanigans, or it could be another one of those pointless 'fuck you it means nothing' misdirections they like to put in there all the time.

Anyway, it'd better kick off at the start of the next episode, once Negan finds out that Daryl has escaped and killed one of his men, on top of the two that Carl killed, he's going to be after kicking some retaliatory ass. If they decide to devote an episode to a stray dog we last saw in Season Four, on its quest to find a tin of Pedigree Chum, I shall be cross.

Author:	Curiosity [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 23:33 ]
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It's explicitly stated that it isn't a lesbian commune; Negan just killed all the men.

Author:	Hearthly [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 23:40 ]
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Yes but it makes it a lot more interesting if you imagine it's a lesbian commune. I mean, the whole programme is so bad now that making up your own storylines is practically compulsory. OMG the filthy things Tara got up to last episode, it's like she'd totally got over Denise really quickly, even before she realised Denise was dead thanks to her latent psychic powers that I also made up, and was onto hot lesbian orgies in a heartbeat. Momentous TWD experiences, classic season of a classic series, that just keeps the lesbian action coming thick and fast.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 0:30 ]
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Heh. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I actually thought that episode was a bit of a slow one, and a bit too long. First one this season that hasn't really done it for me.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:10 ]
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Very nearly turned this off somewhere around the 24 minute mark, but persevered to the end. The Negan character is nothing more than a semi-pantomime villain with a penchant for torture and terrorising women, total waste of a very good actor to my mind. The thing that really blew it for me was: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Carl didn't take the shot on Negan. He was clearly on a suicide mission as there was no way he was going to get into the compound, kill Negan, and get out again. AND HE HAD THE SHOT. He had Negan a few feet away, with a powerful automatic rifle AIMED AT HIS HEAD, and he didn't take the shot. Everything after that was basically just nonsense. Negan is depressingly one-note and quickly gets boring. Watching him and Carl chat for extended periods of time? Not very interesting. Is that the mid-season finale? I hope so. I'm going to start watching Westworld.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:35 ]
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Nah, that's the set up episode for the mid season finale, where it will all kick off and end on a cliffhanger.

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Author:	KovacsC [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:04 ]
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Hearthly wrote: Very nearly turned this off somewhere around the 24 minute mark, but persevered to the end. The Negan character is nothing more than a semi-pantomime villain with a penchant for torture and terrorising women, total waste of a very good actor to my mind. The thing that really blew it for me was: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Carl didn't take the shot on Negan. He was clearly on a suicide mission as there was no way he was going to get into the compound, kill Negan, and get out again. AND HE HAD THE SHOT. He had Negan a few feet away, with a powerful automatic rifle AIMED AT HIS HEAD, and he didn't take the shot. Everything after that was basically just nonsense. Negan is depressingly one-note and quickly gets boring. Watching him and Carl chat for extended periods of time? Not very interesting. Is that the mid-season finale? I hope so. I'm going to start watching Westworld. you make me laugh... moaning how bad something is but still watching

Author:	Zardoz [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:59 ]
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you make me laugh... moaning how bad something is but still watching

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 22:45 ]
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I loved every moment of it. Kevin is waaay better than the Governor.

Author:	Hearthly [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:34 ]
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Yes, Kevin is definitely one of the strongest characters in the franchise. Oh well at least it's the end of season finale tomorrow, which means TWD will go away for a while. I need to get Westworld watched.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:43 ]
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Midseason finale, a step above what we've had for most of Season 7 at least. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! The first half could have been completely jettisoned IMO, or at least condensed into five minutes. I don't recall anything happened, apart from Rick and Aaron apparently losing their minds and trying to row to the houseboat thingy in a smaller boat that was clearly going to quickly sink in the middle of all the zombies. (And which they readily acknowledged themselves.) This felt terribly shoehorned in just to get the episode a tick in the 'has a zombie in it' column. The second half however was a lot better, in fact the entire episode should have just started when Rick and Aaron returned to Alexandria. Negan seemed a little less pantomimish (although I think the 'where are your guts' routine probably played out better in the comic), it was all quite tense and well done, yay Spencer got killed, fuck knows how Rosita missed Negan at point-blank range, oh Olivia got shot as well and Negan made more fat jokes. If we were supposed to get all emotional about Rick and Daryl's reunion it didn't much work for me, and that sequence at the end where they showed all the faces for a few seconds each seriously overestimated how much most people care about this lot, see also, final sequence with Rick and Michonne. Oh and then customary post-credits teaser. Overall then, most of the first half was disposable trash, most of the second half was solid - enough to bait the line to make it worth tuning in again when the second half of the season arrives next year sometime.

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:43 ]
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I mainly agree with Hearthly. However, kevin Keegan was superb. Again. I love him. Didn't care for the ending.

Author:	markg [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:45 ]
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The camera lingering on all their faces at the end went on for so long that we both burst out laughing at it.

Author:	Zardoz [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:42 ]
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You watched it with Hearthly?

Author:	Zardoz [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:43 ]
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Not the best Season (so far) but I'm far from hating it. Still one of the best things on TV at the moment for me. Daryl's fringe is really getting to me though.

Author:	Hearthly [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:20 ]
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Satsuma wrote: Aww, when I saw this as the top topic I thought Hearty might have posted his thoughts. Come on, man, watch it already. Haven't watched it and don't think I will. I was aware the season had resumed but the break of two or three months has crystallised in my mind just how mean, gruelling, grinding, incoherent, directionless, poorly written, appallingly paced, filled to the brim with magically transforming kitchen utensils, and let's simply call it what it really is, fucking boring, that I find I have not even the slightest residual desire to inflict any more of it on myself. My Netflix watchlist alone is about three miles long, and like everyone, I only have so much free leisure time to do the things I want to do - and TWD isn't taking any more of it up. So then TWD, you were great, then good, then average, then poor, and now you are the weakest link - goodbye. Oh yes, and I'd forgotten about the tiger, thanks for me reminding of that totemic beacon of its descent into total shittery, as it means I'm not now running the risk of seeing the ridiculous thing on my screen again.

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:15 ]
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NOT AS GOOD AS TIGER BUT IT WAS AWESOME

Author:	Trousers [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:23 ]
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That would be Grrrrrrrreat.

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 22:12 ]
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Carl should have shot Kevin. Why didn't he? He had a clear chance to do it. Stupid fucking kid.

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 23:12 ]
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MaliA wrote: I mainly agree with Hearthly. However, kevin Keegan was superb. Again. I love him. Didn't care for the ending. He's sort of carrying the show this series. That's probably not a good thing.

Author:	Curiosity [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 0:36 ]
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Kevin is awesome and I love him. I missed the teaser at the end of the show. What was it? Assume next half of season will be Rick and friends and the sad Kingdom chap teaming up? Enjoyed the episode. Not sure why they suddenly think they can beat the impossible odds though. Sure, Jesus is like a fucking magician and they have one gun, but why is it now different to a week ago when it was hopeless. I don't quite buy the incident at Alexandria as a reason to flip their options. I would love Negan to finally be killed by Carol, as she takes up violence again in a "Seriously, I have to do all this shit for you?" way, reluctantly saving all their asses again. She's such a good actor.

Author:	Hearthly [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:20 ]
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Curiosity wrote: I missed the teaser at the end of the show. What was it? ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! It was the guy from the houseboat thingy, the one with the barbed wire wrapped round his boot, spying on the Alexandrians using binoculars. (I assume he's the 'owner' of the houseboat and wrote the 'you still lose' note). So he might have a part to play in the upcoming shenanigans, or it could be another one of those pointless 'fuck you it means nothing' misdirections they like to put in there all the time. Anyway, it'd better kick off at the start of the next episode, once Negan finds out that Daryl has escaped and killed one of his men, on top of the two that Carl killed, he's going to be after kicking some retaliatory ass. If they decide to devote an episode to a stray dog we last saw in Season Four, on its quest to find a tin of Pedigree Chum, I shall be cross.

Author:	RuySan [ Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:10 ]
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I'm with hearthly with this one. The show keeps on being stupid but i invested too much time on it to drop it. I just disagree on him about Tara. She's rubbish. And Negan is a really silly villain, and it really annoys me his speaking manner and his back arching thing. Someone please shoot him already. Is it that hard?

Author:	MaliA [ Wed Feb 15, 2017 21:48 ]
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Really enjoyed that one. Going to be superb.

Author:	Satsuma [ Wed Feb 15, 2017 22:02 ]
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Aww, when I saw this as the top topic I thought Hearty might have posted his thoughts. Come on, man, watch it already.

Author:	MaliA [ Wed Feb 15, 2017 22:25 ]
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Sorry to be so dull.

Author:	Curiosity [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 0:53 ]
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I wasn't enthralled. I may have been distracted but it didn't grab me.

Author:	MaliA [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:45 ]
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Curiosity wrote: I wasn't enthralled. I may have been distracted but it didn't grab me. It had a tiger in it! A tiger!

Author:	Mr Dave [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:23 ]
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I, for one, want to know how the spoon subplot ends.

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:44 ]
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The Tiger is awesime, fool. But, everyone should just not have mentioned it.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:42 ]
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As someone who gave up a bit after the jail series, the best thing about the show was Hearthly's write-ups of his self-harm viewing sessions

Author:	Cras [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:43 ]
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Author:	MaliA [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:54 ]
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THERE IS A TIGER

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:02 ]
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CARS WIRE

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:17 ]
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ASPLOSHUN

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:18 ]
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WHAT IF THE TIGER DROVE THE CAR?

Author:	Hearthly [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 13:00 ]
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Grim... wrote: As someone who gave up a bit after the jail series, the best thing about the show was Hearthly's write-ups of his self-harm viewing sessions I might binge it at the end of the season and have one MEGA-COMPLAIN. Final offer.

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Feb 17, 2017 16:24 ]
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Trousers wrote: That would be Grrrrrrrreat. Groarn.